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    Hi I am into my 3rd week of eating at around 50g-100g carbs a day and very little processed food, but I am really craving all of the old haunts (especially pasta). I read in PB that this should go away but I thought I would have been over it by now... I have also had to start going to bed earlier because I am so tired, but I keep waking up tired and I even had to crawl back into bed for 15mins yesterday and today. Any help on how I can beat the cravings and improve my sleep would be great caus it is taking it's toll on my workouts!

  • #2
    maybe you are working out too hard.

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    • #3
      Possibly but only since I changed my diet have I really been affected. I am doing stronglifts/starting strength 2-3 times a week, slow walking, swimming or jogging 2 times a week and crossfit style metcons once a week (when I have only done 2 days of weights). So really only about 3-4 hours a week strenuous activity and maybe 3 hours light activity.

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      • #4
        Sorry to hear that, my experience has been quite the opposite- I went modified paleo (lots of dairy and occasional legumes) and my energy levels actually seem to have increased. But, I was already "low-carb" before going paleo. Might sound like a silly answer, but have you tried simply eating more? Because I'm actually trying to gain weight (hypertrophy), I eat a lot (but paleo). With cutting out grains and white potatoes I was really worried about being tired hungry and cranky, but it hasn't happened, if anything, just the opposite!

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        • #5
          I am eating every 3 hours and eating until I'm full. I am actually disappointed because even though my arms, chest, back and upper abs are starting to become more defined and hard, my lower stomach, love handles and calves seem to have gained fat, I'm starting to feel like a kangaroo... I have tried eating less, eating more, exercising less, exercising more, but I have pretty much recieved the same results. Even though I would call myself a focused person, I would be lying if I said I wasn't starting to become turned off by my lack of progress.

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          • #6
            I hear you, it seems almost impossible for me to provoke hypertrophy. I've tried a lot of different things and haven't made much progress, in fact I wonder how different I would look if I had just done nothing. So, know you're not the only one who's not seeing dramatic results! In the last year of paying quite close attention to my training and nutrition, for all intents and purposes I have not made any progress.

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            • #7
              Yes it sucks! I am training for increased strength and athleticism over hypertrophy so that I can get more involved in sports, but I still want to see some muscle gains. So it is definitely disheartening as my strength has doubled, yet my upper body is slimmer and skinnier than ever and I am storing fat on my lower body. My bf is around 15% but it seems like most of that is my lower gut and legs. My wrists have gotten smaller and are now 6.7 inches while my ankles are bigger at 9.6 inches. Im thinking I may just go really strict with my diet for the next 2 weeks and see if I am able to get into ketosis while still maintaining my muscle mass and increasing my strength. I am not entirely sure on how though as I don't know how many carbs are in fruit and vegetables and how much meat i will need to eat to get the required protein.

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              • #8
                I've had similar experiences. My previous diet consisted of A LOT of carbs. My mom had been diagnosed on some cholesterol heightened genetic fairytale (me and my sisters were tested for it as well, couple years ago but I didn't 'had it') and she's been buying us 'healthy' food her entire life (extremely low fat, low proteine, high carb foods). (Then my sister started to suffer from a condition called 'gluten-intolerance'. Wonder where that came from...)

                My body had to adjust to start fueling on primal foods and carb cravings were insane. I've gradually started eating more primal and dropping grains since December last year. I'm getting a whole lot better now. My energy levels are more stable and less spikey. I still have some grains in my diet in the morning when I eat organic muesli (it's clear of the usual fructose corn cyrup layers and other bullshit, but it's still grains) with berries and fresh orange/kiwi/pinaepple/pear/apple/banana/mango/coconut juice. You might want to create deliberate transition periods. I started with altering my lunch. Then dinner. Then getting rid of all the inbetween snacks that contained grains and replacing them with nuts/seeds/fruits/dark chocolate.
                I'm still wondering if I should change my breakfast, since I like it so much. Anyone got a good alternative?
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                • #9
                  Here is a thread I started a little while ago to compile some folks experiences when starting out..
                  http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post381848
                  For lots of tasty recipes, check out my blog -http://lifeasadreger.wordpress.com/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Edje Noh View Post
                    I still have some grains in my diet in the morning when I eat organic muesli (it's clear of the usual fructose corn cyrup layers and other bullshit, but it's still grains) with berries and fresh orange/kiwi/pinaepple/pear/apple/banana/mango/coconut juice. You might want to create deliberate transition periods. I started with altering my lunch. Then dinner. Then getting rid of all the inbetween snacks that contained grains and replacing them with nuts/seeds/fruits/dark chocolate.
                    I'm still wondering if I should change my breakfast, since I like it so much. Anyone got a good alternative?
                    Eggs? Bacon? or anything else that is not grains? Breakfast does not have to necessarily be breakfast food.
                    For lots of tasty recipes, check out my blog -http://lifeasadreger.wordpress.com/

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by robbie1512 View Post
                      I am eating every 3 hours and eating until I'm full. I am actually disappointed because even though my arms, chest, back and upper abs are starting to become more defined and hard, my lower stomach, love handles and calves seem to have gained fat, I'm starting to feel like a kangaroo... I have tried eating less, eating more, exercising less, exercising more, but I have pretty much recieved the same results. Even though I would call myself a focused person, I would be lying if I said I wasn't starting to become turned off by my lack of progress.
                      Wait a minute...you've been moderately low-carb (50-100g) for THREE WEEKS and you've tried all this? How do you even know you've "pretty much received the same results?" A few days isn't enough time to tell. (Maybe I'm not seeing the full picture here; how long have you been primal?)

                      I went primal after 3 years of being mostly vegan. It took a good 6-8 weeks for me to get over the "low-carb flu." Cravings weren't much of an issue for me, but I suffered big time from the brain fog and lack of energy. I just kept doing what I was doing (exercise included) and eventually it passed. Definitely worth it.

                      The habitual hunger thing, like always thinking I needed to eat right when I got home from the office, took months to dissipate. It wasn't real hunger, but it surely felt that way.

                      On the rare occasion that I think I want something carby, I go ahead and eat a regular, primal meal. When I'm not longer hungry, the craving goes away.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Edje Noh View Post
                        I'm still wondering if I should change my breakfast, since I like it so much. Anyone got a good alternative?
                        Yeah. Just about ANYTHING.

                        Seriously. Anything but grains.

                        How about: Eggs and bacon/omelet/egg muffins. BAS. Leftover stew from dinner. Cold chicken and avocado. Fat Guacamole Devils. Tuna salad. Like supersellen noted, you don't have to eat "breakfast food" just because it's morning. If you MUST have something sweet and cereal-like, you can make primal "granola" with mostly nuts and coconut and serve it over plain yogurt.
                        Nightlife ~ Chronicles of Less Urban Living, Fresh from In the Night Farm ~ Idaho's Primal Farm! http://inthenightlife.wordpress.com/

                        Latest post: Stop Being Stupid

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                        • #13
                          First, don't eat until you are full. The signals of a full belly can take up to 20 minutes to get to your brain. Eat less than you think you want and wait a half hour. Eat more if you are still actually hungry.

                          Second, 3 weeks is not that much time. Give it 3 months. You are already seeing improvements, and it likely took you years to put all that fat on. Why do you expect it to be gone in days?

                          Also, as your body starts breaking down old fat it will be releasing stored toxins into your system. That is necessary, but may make you feel like crap for a while. Your liver will be filtering this out, but the liver needs plenty of good sleep to function properly. When I got off a SAD I had to sleep 10 hours a day pretty regularly for a while, and maintained 8 for a long time after that.

                          Finally, any carbs you are eating are going to prolong the symptoms of the carb flu. Go without for 30 days and see how you feel. Bring them back in if you still really miss them.

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                          • #14
                            I experienced this for the first couple of weeks. I was also so hungry in the beginning. Once I let that pass, I am much better. Stop eating so often and eat bigger meals w/fats and you should be good. I work out six days a week still and I am now doing okay. I don't have any carb cravings anymore, and I actually craving things like chicken wings! Your taste buds will change and you won't want pasta. Hang in there!

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                            • #15
                              I'm in week 5 and cravings only really started this week, I've not given in yet. I generally felt better despite loosing zero weight (inch loss though) until this week when I have had cravings, no energy, real tiredness, brain fog and dizzy spells. I feel a bit down about it. I've not had a problem eating primal up to now and have never felt hungary despite eating very little and occasional fasting. I feel I need a bit more variety though and my meals are boring, I wouldn't be sorry if I never saw another omelette!!

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