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    Hi,
    After starting primal, I lost 11 lbs in about a month. That was between Jan. and Feb. I haven't lost anymore weight since then and have acually gained about 7 lbs.

    I am eating lots of healthy fats, keeping my calories low (though not too low, nursing a baby right now), the only carbs I am getting are coming from veggies (no potatoes), trying to hit the 1 gram of protein per lean muscle mass @ 100 gm of protein a day (hitting it pretty regularly), and very little dairy (only in the form of cream in my coffee, plain greek yogart once or twice a month, and butter).

    I eat 2-3 tbsp of coconut oil a day and get other forms of coconut as well (milk, shredded coconut, coconut cream concentrate)

    I am just now starting to do actual exercises, but I do move around quite a bit everyday, I have 4 children...can't help but be somewhat busy! :-)

    My goal weight is 130 lbs (or a size 6/7 pants...this is more my goal than what the scale says). Right now I am 165 lbs and in a 12 (though they are lose fitting).

    Any suggestions would be fantastic! Thanks everyone!

  • #2
    As this is always hard to accept, the fact is if the weight doesn't shift you have to cut back on everything until it does. I think we easily convince ourselves that because a food is good/primal/low carb that we don't have to restrict. For every person who doesn't have to watch calories, fats, portions--especially females--there are hundreds who do. I can't eat unlimited calories or fats, and from what you've written, you probably can't either. There are hundreds of posts on this site that support this. I wish you all the best of luck.
    This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it. Ralph Waldo Emerson

    Any given day you are surrounded by 10,000 idiots.
    Lao Tsu, founder of Taoism

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    • #3
      Do you use cron-o-meter or fitday and make sure to get optimal nutrition?

      Paleo used to mean eating brains and liver, the gelatinous parts of an animal like connective tissue and bones, tons of greens/roots, berries, fish, high quality eggs (certainly not the conventional ones. Hopefully at least the flax-fed) and other nutrient-dense foods. Magnesium used to be much more plentiful and we used to get like 600mg of the stuff, and now we have to supplement or we will be deficient. We used to get tons of fiber, much of it inulin and we used to generate massive amounts of butyrate and other beneficial short-chain fats. We had a tissue ratio of omega 3:6 at about 1:2 and we really got a significant amount of omega 3 in the diet, but not from conventional fish oil, but animal brains. Salmon works just as well.

      Judging by your other thread, I think that you are getting too much omega 6 fat and not nearly enough of many key nutrients, including fiber and gelatin. Your diet doesn't have much fish and fish oil is in truth not all that great save for the inordinately expensive stuff.

      I am confident that you can do it, but it might take a little more effort. No biggie, but there is Paleo and there is Faileo. And there is Primal and there is umm.... ..... Diemal. Yeah.

      Good luck and please keep us posted!
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      • #4
        I am really not eating unlimited calories. I put my calories on fit day today and I was just under 1700 calories and today was a typical day. My carbs were under 50 grams, protein was 127 grams, and fat was 103 grams. I thought I was supposed to be aeating plenty of good fats, meat and fresh produce...that is what I am doing. Am I doing it wrong?

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        • #5
          An example day for you would be good.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mamaof4 View Post
            I am really not eating unlimited calories. I put my calories on fit day today and I was just under 1700 calories and today was a typical day. My carbs were under 50 grams, protein was 127 grams, and fat was 103 grams. I thought I was supposed to be aeating plenty of good fats, meat and fresh produce...that is what I am doing. Am I doing it wrong?
            I shouldn't have said "unlimited"; rather, "more than what my body needs." I rarely eat more than 12-1400 cals/30cbs per day. Some of us have slower engines and therefore have to cut back to what would be too low for the average person.
            This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it. Ralph Waldo Emerson

            Any given day you are surrounded by 10,000 idiots.
            Lao Tsu, founder of Taoism

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            • #7
              I would say that, especially while nursing, counting calories shouldn't even cross your mind as long as those calories are coming from good sources. I would also think Stabby's comments about nutrients and omega 3/6 ratios will be even more important for you. Good luck, and be patient...it will come.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mamaof4 View Post
                I am really not eating unlimited calories. I put my calories on fit day today and I was just under 1700 calories and today was a typical day. My carbs were under 50 grams, protein was 127 grams, and fat was 103 grams. I thought I was supposed to be aeating plenty of good fats, meat and fresh produce...that is what I am doing. Am I doing it wrong?
                That's how many calories I eat on a high calorie day. If I ate that much every day, I'd gain weight. That is just me though, there are people who can eat that many calories and lose. I'm not one of them.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mamaof4 View Post
                  Hi,
                  After starting primal, I lost 11 lbs in about a month. That was between Jan. and Feb. I haven't lost anymore weight since then and have acually gained about 7 lbs.
                  Losing and gaining what? Lean or fat?

                  Michelle’s Second Weight Loss Update | Michelle's Low Carb Lifestyle

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                  • #10
                    I'm not too sure on this one, but no way could I eat 1,700 calories a day.

                    I went from over 310 to 200 on strict low carb pretty fast, but I still can't eat that much. I don't do any veggies with carbs or fruits. No bread, no butter, no milk.

                    When I read people saying "eat all the fat you want, it makes you full, and yer good," I think, "Yeah, good for you, but not good for me!"

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                    • #11
                      I do use Fitday to get my calories.

                      A typical day for me is a 2 egg omlete with loads of veggies in the morning, sometimes I add a strip or two of bacon I get from the farm.
                      Lunch: Great big salad with grilled or baked chicken. Salad usually includes red leaf lettuce, cucumbers, carrots, tomatos, avocado, red bell peppers and homemade olive oil and vinager dressing.
                      Dinner: Typically a piece of grilled meat of some kind (fish, chicken, pork, beef) with veggies on the side. These differer regularly. Some examples: broccoli, grilled zucchini and onions, mock "potatos" made of cauliflower, spinach, kale, collards, and occasionally sweet potato fries made with olive oil or coconut oil and salt.
                      Snacks (if I need them): A mix of roasted almonds (that I roasted on my own), dried goji berries, and dried coconut chips; apple and celery with homemade almond butter, coconut oil treat (little treats I make with stevia to help me get 2-3 tbsp of coconut oil a day).

                      Very occasionally I will eat plain greek yogart in a green smoothie. I haven't had a green smoothie in a while because I was worried about the carbs in the fruit. However, I have noticed a drop in my milk supply (nursing a near 5 month old), so I am trying to add back a few extra carbs (fruit, sweet potatoes) to help...which it has. I was eating at or under 50 carbs a day and have had to raise that to about 75-100.

                      DFH - A nursing mama shouldn't cut her calories below 1800, so I work to keep my calories up between 1600-1800 a day to keep from causing issues with feeding my baby. I typically don't eat more than a serving to two of fruit a day...certainly not all I can eat. I eat no bread. I do use butter, but not tons of it. I only do dairy in the form of greek yogart (about 3 times a month at the most) and cream for my coffee.

                      JS290 - I am not feeling like it's muscle weight. I am not losing weight or inches. I did at the beginning, but have been at a dead stop. I have just started, this week, doing some heavy lifting, but I had been doing 3-5 hours a week of walking/house work/chasing after kids.

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                      • #12
                        i think once your finish nursing you can start worring about your weight...stressing now wont make nourishing boob milk
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                        • #13
                          Your 3 meals seem quite substantial so you shouldn't really require snacks. Maybe because of the breastfeeding you crave more food.

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                          • #14
                            This has been a helpful thread. I was worried that I wasn't eating enough in the beginning because I saw so many people who were eating "unlimited".
                            Jillian
                            Strict Vegetarian going primal as of 3/2011. This is a tough row to hoe!

                            So far I am down:
                            • 6lbs
                            • 1% BMI
                            • 1" in my waist
                            • 2.5" at my belly button
                            • 1" in my hips

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                            • #15
                              Be careful cutting back on calories while nursing-I did and I started to lose my milk and gained weight. I ate more and things went back to normal. Be sure to drink lots of water (that was another thing that seemed to stall my weight loss) otherwise it sounds like you have a very healthy diet (I'm jealous, I only have one and I'm lucky to get as much good stuff in). Could also be that time of the month-I always puffed up like a sponge, even though nursing is supposed to stop that from happening...yeah, didn't work for me-the week after I'd suddenly lose 10 pounds though where and of what I still have no clue. Anyhow, those are my experiences. Good luck!
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