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    Recently a friend told me about "flourless" breads. A quick visit to the website revealed they use sprouted grains, alfalfa I think. Is this an acceptable PB item? The only thing I really miss w/ the diet is an occasional sandwich. Also, what about low carb wraps?

  • #2
    No and no. Gluten is NOT your friend and neither item is Primal.

    There are some Primal bread substitutes on the forum. Do a search for "sandwich" or "bread".
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    • #3
      Originally posted by omen
      Wow, that author's kind of an asshole.

      First, the bread tastes just fine - it's actually quite good. No, it's not Primal, but it tastes good. Second, the bread never claims to follow the instructions to the letter, but that it's "inspired by it"...what's the problem? This douche just has an attack agenda (as obviously set forth by the nobeliefs.com web address).

      As for the whole feces thing, I don't know if this guy realizes it but a great number of African and Middle Eastern communities dry and store animal dung because it's an excellent fuel for fires. The "human" fuel thing was solely a reference to a ritual defilement.

      Here's the particulars of that realization, compounded: This brainless wonder points out that the Ezekiel company didn't read far enough because, wow, they're told to use human dung right there! If the author read a couple verses further he'd have seen this:

      The LORD said, “In this way the people of Israel will eat defiled food among the nations where I will drive them.”

      14 Then I said, “Not so, Sovereign LORD! I have never defiled myself. From my youth until now I have never eaten anything found dead or torn by wild animals. No impure meat has ever entered my mouth.”

      15 “Very well,” he said, “I will let you bake your bread over cow dung instead of human excrement.”
      Jeez. Weak sauce, Jim Walker.
      edit: also, on a page one level up, it has this "disclaimer" in tiny, tiny type at the bottom of the page: "For those who think the Washington News articles represents reality, please look up the term satire." So at best it's fake and deceptive.
      Last edited by carlh; 03-23-2011, 09:15 AM.
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      • #4
        not primal!

        If you eat following WAPF guidelines, I guess it'd be OK, but it's primal unless you're putting it in your 20%. It's definitely not paleo.

        Tasted it once...thought it was terrible. Definitely not worth eating, IMO.
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        • #5
          Not on the Primal Blueprint plan.

          It has soy and/or corn.

          Good luck with that.

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          • #6
            If you're active, lean, fit, and not metabolically deranged, I think it would be acceptable to have a slice or two of sprouted grain bread after doing some sort of strenuous exercise. The general consensus amongst the paleo crowd is that starch is best when eaten post-workout. If, after working out, you really wanted this sort of bread in place of foods like potatoes, sweet potatoes, and yams, I wouldn't see a problem with that. Just keep in mind that its carbohydrate content is quite high and that it does contain gluten (although the harmfulness of gluten from sprouted grains is debatable).

            If you're trying to lose weight or reverse any medical condition, I'd say stay away from it until your condition has improved.
            Last edited by tarek; 03-23-2011, 09:00 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tarek View Post
              If you're active, lean, fit, and not metabolically deranged, I think it would be acceptable to have a slice or two of sprouted grain bread after doing some sort of strenuous exercise. The general consensus amongst the paleo crowd is that starch is best when eaten post-workout. If, after working out, you really wanted this sort of bread in place of foods like potatoes, sweet potatoes, and yams, I wouldn't see a problem with that. Just keep in mind that its carbohydrate content is quite high and that it does contain gluten (although the harmfulness of gluten from sprouted grains is debatable).

              If you're trying to lose weight or reverse any medical condition, I'd say stay away from it until your condition has improved.
              +1

              >Tasted it once...thought it was terrible. Definitely not worth eating, IMO.

              The bread toasted golden brown with something like Earth Balance(the soy free is best obviously) buttery spread is pretty damn good actually. Or, if someone did not want to go the rest of their life without being able to enjoy a grilled cheese sandwich every once in a while(which I see giving up for the rest of your life kind of ridiculous, unless you don't like grilled cheese sandwiches) and wanted to use a half way healthy bread(if there really is one). I've have grilled sandwiches with Ezekial and they are very good. I won't be making them like I used to though.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by carlh View Post
                Wow, that author's kind of an asshole.
                I thought he was hilarious. I do have to complain about his assertion that if you eat your own dung, it's gluten-free. That actually depends, since gluten is so hard to break down, much that you eat passes on through. I wonder how many passes are required (LOL) before your turds are really gluten-free?

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                • #9
                  I used to eat EZ bread all the time.

                  Ingredients of EZ bread: Organic Sprouted Wheat, Filtered Water, Organic Malted Barley, Organic Sprouted Rye, Organic Sprouted Barley, Organic Sprouted Oats, Organic Sprouted Millet, Organic Sprouted Corn, Organic Sprouted Brown Rice, Fresh Yeast, Organic Wheat Gluten, Sea Salt

                  That is a recipe for disaster for folks who are sensitive to grains and/or gluten. I don't care how "healthy" they say it is because it is sprouted. For some, it is still poison and not primal.

                  I loved sandwiches, but I do much better leaving ALL grains, gluten-free or not, out of my diet. I don't think that is ridiculous at all. And I don't think it is impossible. Just don't buy it if you want to stay grain-free. Make bread with almond flour or coconut flour instead.

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                  • #10
                    I try not to find replacements for bread. It just would make me crave the real thing more. Plus plain bread without what you cover it with (butter/spread) and what you fill it with (meats and veggies) just doesn't taste so good. Would you eat plain bread, pasta, rice? I wouldn't but I like the stuff that I used to eat with it. So I just stick with that.
                    "If man made it, don't eat it" - Jack Lallane

                    People say I am on a "crazy" diet. What is so crazy about eating veggies, fruits, seafood and organ meats? Just because I don't eat whole wheat and processed food doesn't make my diet "crazy". Maybe everyone else with a SAD are the "crazy" ones for putting that junk in their system.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Balance View Post
                      I try not to find replacements for bread.
                      I had a little last week at a tapas place that used gluten-free bread. It tasted like crap. Not quite as bad as Ezekiel bread, but pretty bad. It in no way made me crave real bread.

                      Gordo

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                      • #12
                        I used to have a piece of Ezekial cinnamon toast made with butter or flax oil and stevia. I loved it and couldn't imagine giving it up. it was such a treat with my coffee on the way to work. When I started primal, I had just bought a loaf and I planned to finish it and not buy another. most of the loaf is still in the freezer. I can't believe I have no urge to eat it but I don't.
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                        • #13
                          That would give my pipes a real clean out and not in a fun way! LOL

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                          • #14
                            I'm not sure I understand why some may think that store-bought bread made from grains might in any way be Primal, unless they haven't read the book.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Suzan View Post
                              I used to eat EZ bread all the time.

                              I loved sandwiches, but I do much better leaving ALL grains, gluten-free or not, out of my diet. I don't think that is ridiculous at all. And I don't think it is impossible. Just don't buy it if you want to stay grain-free. Make bread with almond flour or coconut flour instead.
                              IMHO, if you don't have any gluten sensitivities, you workout regularly and are in great shape, you love a good old grilled cheese sandwich, and eating two pieces of sprouted grain bread and a little dairy isn't going to ruin a whole day of your life, why wouldn't one just treat themselves to a grilled cheese sandwich every once in a while, like maybe 3 times a years. I mean, unless people have that little will power and think they will completely fall off the Primal/Paleo wagon that easily, it's a bit ridiculous to never enjoy certain foods ever again if they are not going to cause any real long term health issues/damage or major long lasting crash in well being. It's not like cheating on a rare occasion is going to take years off your life or ruin whole days(well at least not for the typical healthy person). Life is just too damn short, even if we make it as long and youthful as possible.

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