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    I have already emailed three farms and called my butcher and nobody sells raw pork skin. They all say they never skin pigs anymore. WTF do I do? I really want to make some pork rinds but can't find a source of skin.

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    Buy pork belly. Skin it. Cook rest.

    I leave the skin on when cooking pork belly as its the best tasting part. I love the gelatinous texture when it's been slow cooked
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    • #3
      I am slowly perfecting the art of making a pork shoulder roast with crackling. The best part is that I get to eat the experiments. You should be able to find roasts with the skin on them.
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      • #4
        Thank you. Isn't pork belly what bacon is made from? Anyway to make it taste like bacon? Also how much skin is actually on it?

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        • #5
          My mom grabs the pork shoulder, pulls off the fatty outside with the skin, cut it up into small squares, then slow cooks it in a cast iron pan and finally lightly salts. BEST THING EVER. So crunchy, so salty, so perfect.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kurite View Post
            Thank you. Isn't pork belly what bacon is made from? Anyway to make it taste like bacon? Also how much skin is actually on it?
            Pork belly is indeed used for what people in America call bacon. In the rest of the world bacon is a much more complex subject. In the uk we call your bacon streaky bacon. The stuff you call Canadian bacon we call Back bacon - this is the part of the pig that is called loin of pork or basically the pork chops without the bone in and cured in salt. We also have bacon called middle bacon which is essentially the back bacon(canadian) and the streaky bacon(regular usa bacon) stuck together. We also have the option of having it smoked or unsmoked. The unsmoked is just salted and the smoked is salted and then hung in a smoke house and gets that yellow tinge to it. You can also find shoulder bacon which is bacon made from shoulder pork but it is quite rare now. Check out some stuff on youtube if youre interested in which parts of meat come from where.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jandge View Post
              My mom grabs the pork shoulder, pulls off the fatty outside with the skin, cut it up into small squares, then slow cooks it in a cast iron pan and finally lightly salts. BEST THING EVER. So crunchy, so salty, so perfect.
              Mm
              mmmm

              When you say 'slow cooks in a cast iron pan' does that mean in an oven with a lid, or on the stovetop? How long for, what temperature?

              I am driven mad by the 'pork scratchings' sold in butchers that always, always have an ingredients list a mile long with added wheat rusk and flavourings. What's wrong with 'Ingredients: pork rind, salt'? Argh.

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              • #8
                Recipe from Food Network Pork Loin and Crackling with Hassel Back Potatoes Recipe : The Cookworks : Food Network

                Pork Loin and Crackling with Hassel Back Potatoes

                Ingredients
                4 pounds pork loin, center cut with a thick rind/fat cap, skin intact
                1/2 cup kosher salt
                1/4 cup olive oil
                4 cloves garlic, smashed
                8 sprigs fresh thyme
                2 sprigs fresh rosemary
                Hassel Back Potatoes, recipe follows
                Apple Chutney, recipe follows
                Special equipment: butcher's twine, a roasting pan and rack
                Directions
                Preheat the oven to 475 degrees F.

                Score the rind, using long, parallel slits 1/8 to 1/4-inch apart across the width of the loin; be careful to cut only halfway to the flesh (see Cook's Note**). Rub the rind with the salt, ensuring that the salt is rubbed well into the slits. Rub the rind with 1/2 of the olive oil.

                Flip the loin over and rub the flesh side with the remaining olive oil. Place the garlic, thyme, and rosemary up against the flesh. Using butcher's twine, tie the herbs to the loin.

                Place the loin on a rack in a roasting pan and roast for 30 minutes. Remove from the oven and arrange the potatoes at the bottom of the roasting rack. Reduce the heat to 425 degrees F. Return the roast to the oven to cook for 1 additional hour or until an instant-read thermometer poked into the center of the loin reaches 150 degrees F. Remove from the oven and let the loin rest for 30 minutes; the internal temperature will continue to rise about 10 degrees F, and the loin will finish cooking while it's resting (see Cook's Note***).

                Slice the "crackling" (crunch skin) off in 1 piece and cut into 1/4-inch strips. Slice the pork loin into 1/4-inch slices. Serve the pork loin warm with Cracklings, Hassel Back Potatoes, and Apple Chutney.

                Cook's Notes: *Do not use extra virgin olive oil for long cooking because it has a lower smoking point and can impart a bitter flavor if overheated; pure or light olive oil is recommended because they have higher smoking points.

                **We used a thoroughly sanitized box cutter to score the pork rind, but you can also use a very sharp paring knife.

                ***Resting meat after the cooking process gives the meat time to redistribute its natural juices and makes it moister.

                Hassel Back Potatoes:

                24 small Yukon gold potatoes

                1/4 cup olive oil

                1 tablespoon kosher salt, plus salt to season

                1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper, plus pepper to season

                Place a potato in the palm of a wooden spoon. Use a sharp knife to make cuts 3/4 of the way down the width of each potato about 1/8-inch apart. Toss the potatoes with olive oil, 1 tablespoon salt, and pepper in a large mixing bowl.

                Place the potatoes in the bottom of a roasting pan, evenly spaced apart. Cook underneath the roast during the last hour of cooking, until fork tender. Remove from the oven and sprinkle with additional salt and pepper, to taste.

                Apple Chutney:

                1/4 cup unsalted butter

                3 cups thinly sliced Vidalia onions, see Cook Note*

                1 tablespoon kosher salt

                2 cups apple cider

                2 cups cider vinegar

                1 cup sugar, plus 1/3 cup

                4 Granny Smith apples, peeled, cut into 1/2-inch pieces, see Cook's Note**

                1 star anise

                Special Equipment: Potato Masher

                In a large saute pan, melt the butter over medium heat. Add the onion and 1 tablespoon of salt and cover. Saute until onions are translucent. Add the apple cider and increase to high heat. Reduce the cider until nearly evaporated. Add the vinegar and 1 cup sugar; stir until the sugar dissolves. Add the apples and star anise. Cover and reduce the heat to medium. Cook for 10 minutes.

                Remove the cover and continue to cook until thickened, about 10 minutes; stirring frequently. Add the 1/3 cup of remaining sugar. Remove star anise and mash until smooth. Transfer to a plate to cool.

                Serve warm or at room temperature with pork, chicken, or curried dishes.

                Cook's Notes: *Any sweet yellow or white onion, such as a Maui or Walla Walla, can be used in place of Vidalia onions.

                **A lemon half can be used to lightly rub the apples to keep them from oxidizing if you are unable to make the sauce right away.

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                • #9
                  The farmer I buy my pork from is English, and he sells the most lovely fatty unsmoked back bacon (from his Berkshire pigs). The stuff we get here in the supermarket has all the fat trimmed off and is almost more like ham.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by danandvicky View Post
                    Pork belly is indeed used for what people in America call bacon. In the rest of the world bacon is a much more complex subject. In the uk we call your bacon streaky bacon. The stuff you call Canadian bacon we call Back bacon - this is the part of the pig that is called loin of pork or basically the pork chops without the bone in and cured in salt. We also have bacon called middle bacon which is essentially the back bacon(canadian) and the streaky bacon(regular usa bacon) stuck together. We also have the option of having it smoked or unsmoked. The unsmoked is just salted and the smoked is salted and then hung in a smoke house and gets that yellow tinge to it. You can also find shoulder bacon which is bacon made from shoulder pork but it is quite rare now. Check out some stuff on youtube if youre interested in which parts of meat come from where.
                    I may as well ask you instead of starting a thread because you seem like you know your baco but is all bacon in America smoked even if its uncured and all natural/organic?

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                    • #11
                      You can use salmon skin to make your "pork rinds". Fried in bacon fat, it will taste similar. (The skin may pop on occasion). Most people don't eat the fish skin anyways.

                      Some grocery stores sell cuts from a pig's legs (they call them shank cuts if I remember correctly). These cuts have skin around them.

                      Also, you can try this:
                      http://hubpages.com/hub/How-To-Make-Prawn-Crackers

                      Asian Prawn Crackers have a taste very similar to Pork rinds. The recipe I linked to uses tapioca starch instead of flour so it is primal.
                      Last edited by Acteon; 03-23-2011, 10:32 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Never really thought of using other animal skins let alone prawns. Im assuming the skin of fish you use has the scales removed? Any particular fish taste best?

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                        • #13
                          Here is an example with Salmon skin:

                          Crispy Salmon Skin « FoodMayhem

                          (I fry mine in bacon fat).

                          I have also done this with pink trout (truite saumonée in french), the kind that looks like pink salmon.

                          To easily skin your fish fillet: You can pan fry your fish on its skin first. When its ready to turn over on the other side, flip it. The skin will be easy to peel right off at this point. Cut it into bacon size strips and fry them later in bacon fat.

                          For Prawn Crackers, I had prawn crackers in Asian restaurants before. For the longest time, I though they were pork rinds. It is only recently that I learned that they were made from prawns.

                          In the recipe I posted the person making the recipe removes the head and scales from the prawns and uses it to make stock. The actual flesh of the prawns are used with the tapioca flour to make a paste.

                          It appears to be quite a bit of work to make them though, you may want to eat some in a Chinese, Thai or Vietnamese restaurant to see if you like them first.
                          Last edited by Acteon; 03-23-2011, 11:23 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kurite View Post
                            I may as well ask you instead of starting a thread because you seem like you know your baco but is all bacon in America smoked even if its uncured and all natural/organic?
                            sorry i dont know if all american bacon is smoked. I just know the different types of cuts used/ names for each type in each country etc. What i can say is if you look at the fatty part of the bacon it should be white if not smoked and have a slight yellow tinge if smoked. Also, you can smell the stuff they use to smoke bacon. Most smoked bacon is not smoked at all but is dipped in a chemical that makes things taste and look smoked. More expensive and rare smoked products are actually smoked using smoke in a smokehouse. This will usually be quite expensive. So, in short look at the fat and give it a smell.

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                            • #15
                              That's sad that you can't find pig skin. Here is Oz it sits right next to all the other pork products in the supermarket, lovely rolls of pig skin with about a 3/4 inch of fat on it.
                              I also can vouch for salmon skin, it's delicious. I scored a bunch of it from my fishmonger when he had skinless salmon (which is just wrong!) on special. I just asked what he did with the skin and he said he chucked it, so I said 'can I have it?' My kids and I were in heaven that night!
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