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    I have been eating paleo or primal for about 2 weeks now and the results are great. I have lost around 8cm around both the waist and hips (my only measurements). I dont know how much i weigh now or before i started but my clothes fit better! My only problem is that my urine has changed colour(it was quite light and has changed to strong yellow) and is very strong smelling.
    Sample intake of everything i put in my body including supplements:

    Upon waking - broad spectrum probiotic, water 300ml
    30 minutes later - mixed vegetables(100 grams) sauteed in coconut oil finished off with three whole eggs to make a frittata or omelette type thing. With breakfast i take 2 coq10 50mg, 1 glutathione (reduced) 50mg, 1 complete b complex, 1 NAC 400mg / ALA 200mg and about 10ml of strong fish oil.
    10 mins later - cup of red bush tea with coconut milk , 400ml

    Lunch - 200g cold meat (cooked myself - no processed stuff - usually some slow roasted sirloin) with spinach, watercress and roquet mixture, onions, cucumber, tomatoe, capsicum etc. Topped with about 10ml of olive oil,lemon and garlic dressing (homemade), water 400ml

    Mid after noon - maybe another red bush tea with a touch of lemon and a tiny amount of honey (i know but i have almost gotten rid of fructose completely - dont judge me!)

    Dinner - Sardines/ Rib eye steak/ homemade paleo patties with some steamed veggies. Water 300ml, red bush tea again with 2 more coq10 and 2 vit d , calcium and magnesium complexes to aid good sleep.

    I sometimes snack on berries or some almond butter.

    I am 32 yrs old, male and work around 30 hours a week in a physically undemanding job. I am stood but no heavy labour. I sleep 8 - 9.5 hrs a night am in a loving relationship and am quite unstressed apart from waiting on a visa decision to emigrate from the dying uk to the vibrant healthy antipodes.

    I have a few inklings as to what it is but can anyone tell me if this is dangerous?

    I am aware that i am not drinking a lot

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    Originally posted by danandvicky View Post
    I have been eating paleo or primal for about 2 weeks now and the results are great. I have lost around 8cm around both the waist and hips (my only measurements). I dont know how much i weigh now or before i started but my clothes fit better! My only problem is that my urine has changed colour(it was quite light and has changed to strong yellow) and is very strong smelling.
    Sample intake of everything i put in my body including supplements:

    Upon waking - broad spectrum probiotic, water 300ml
    30 minutes later - mixed vegetables(100 grams) sauteed in coconut oil finished off with three whole eggs to make a frittata or omelette type thing. With breakfast i take 2 coq10 50mg, 1 glutathione (reduced) 50mg, 1 complete b complex, 1 NAC 400mg / ALA 200mg and about 10ml of strong fish oil.
    10 mins later - cup of red bush tea with coconut milk , 400ml

    Lunch - 200g cold meat (cooked myself - no processed stuff - usually some slow roasted sirloin) with spinach, watercress and roquet mixture, onions, cucumber, tomatoe, capsicum etc. Topped with about 10ml of olive oil,lemon and garlic dressing (homemade), water 400ml

    Mid after noon - maybe another red bush tea with a touch of lemon and a tiny amount of honey (i know but i have almost gotten rid of fructose completely - dont judge me!)

    Dinner - Sardines/ Rib eye steak/ homemade paleo patties with some steamed veggies. Water 300ml, red bush tea again with 2 more coq10 and 2 vit d , calcium and magnesium complexes to aid good sleep.

    I sometimes snack on berries or some almond butter.

    I am 32 yrs old, male and work around 30 hours a week in a physically undemanding job. I am stood but no heavy labour. I sleep 8 - 9.5 hrs a night am in a loving relationship and am quite unstressed apart from waiting on a visa decision to emigrate from the dying uk to the vibrant healthy antipodes.

    I have a few inklings as to what it is but can anyone tell me if this is dangerous?

    I am aware that i am not drinking a lot
    your urine will be that colour from no drinking a lot and taking the supplements the fish oil does that to me too..love Dee x

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    • #3
      Constipation can cause this. The toxins that have been re-absorbed into the bloodstream, through the intestinal walls, are filtered by the kidneys and passed in the urine.

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      • #4
        Well, as for asparagus, I had looked it up recently after wondering forever why. Something in asparagus causes many people's urine to have a strong odor. As for color, a brighter yellow can be from too many B vitamins. Your body just naturally gets rid of some of them instead of storing them. They come out brighter yellow. Deep yellow is more likely a hydration issue. And for stronger odor, not in conjunction with asparagus, it may be ketosis.
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        • #5
          Thanks everyone. I had guessed it was the b vits and ketosis but i hadnt heard anything similar from anyone else so thought there must be something wrong with me regarding the strong smell. Has anyone else experienced a strong smell in their urine during ketosis? also my breath doesnt smell sweet which i have heard is a good indicator of ketosis.

          Also, yesterday my wife and i had our first cheat day in which we had quite a big fruit bowl covered in coconut milk and homemade fish and chips using almond meal to crumb the fish and sweet potato wedges roasted in goose fat. My urine doesnt smell this morning! Probably as i have come out of Ketosis?

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          • #6
            The bright yellow colour is from your B vitamins, the smell is mostly likely from the ALA (it gives a similar smell to asparagus pee). Nothing to worry about really. Just make sure you are sufficiently hydrated.
            I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.

            Oscar Wilde

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            • #7
              I was curious about the same thing, but a little too scared to ask, so thank you! My pee has always been really light yellow with no smell at all (probably coz I drink around 4 litres of water daily). But since starting PB, even though I am still drinking all the water, the smell, is really strong. Not pleasant at all

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              • #8
                Originally posted by danandvicky View Post
                Probably as i have come out of Ketosis?
                Exactly. When I first went primal, I ate as you are, pretty much zero carb. The same thing happened, even if I drank lots of water and peed my brains out. A quick search on the web exposed the connection between ketosis and smelly urine.

                If you're not trying to lose weight, I'd add around 100g of safe starches to your diet. Sweet potato, white potato(peeled), white rice, starchy root vegetables, etc. I feel a lot better eating a moderate amount of carbs and there are some potential health risks to a VLC diet. Either way, try to keep carbs plus protein in excess of 150g to provide the minimum fuel to run your nervous system without your body having to break down muscle tissue.

                Gordo

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                • #9
                  I quickly glanced through your menu from your first post. With just a quick look it appears to me that you have definitely achieved Ketosis with your diet.And this is not a bad thing! Eating a ketogenic diet will ensure you are burning your bodyfat and any excess fat you get in your diet.Also, it will prohibit your body from living off of glucose primarily (you will be burning ketones from your body fat and dietary fat).So you will no longer be a slave to insulin spikes and hunger pains from eating carbs.The "down side" of eating this way is you will go through carb flu as you withdraw from eating carbs. Some people get a feeling of flu-like symptoms for anywhere from 3 days to 1 month. It varies with each person. Also, the smell you describe in your urine IS ketones.That is your body excreting the excess ketones it doesn't need.You may or may not excrete them through your breath too. This varies per person. As for eating a ketogenic diet long term, there are currently NO studies that say it is harmful. I personally have been eating this way for 11 weeks now and have lost 25 lbs.I feel great! Just be sure you drink no less than 2L of water per day to flush
                  If you can just get your....mind together....then come on across to me.....
                  James Marshall (Jimi)Hendrix

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by nachobrawler View Post
                    As for eating a ketogenic diet long term, there are currently NO studies that say it is harmful.
                    Maybe. But if you do it wrong, you can eff yourself up good. There is little safety margin with VLC diets. Better know exactly what you're doing and why. Mild ketosis is a LOT safer. Staying near the threshold and going into ketosis periodically may be even better.

                    Perfect Health Diet Ketogenic Diets 2: Preventing Muscle and Bone Loss on Ketogenic Diets
                    Perfect Health Diet Dangers of Zero-Carb Diets, IV: Kidney Stones
                    Perfect Health Diet Danger of Zero-Carb Diets III: Scurvy
                    Perfect Health Diet Dangers of Zero-Carb Diets, II: Mucus Deficiency and Gastrointestinal Cancers
                    Perfect Health Diet Dangers of Zero-Carb Diets, I: Can There Be a Carbohydrate Deficiency?
                    Perfect Health Diet Ketogenic Diets, I: Ways to Make a Diet Ketogenic

                    Gordo

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                    • #11
                      Not looking for an argument at all. But as with any lifestyle...to know what you are doing is THE most important thing.I also think scaring people off of a ketogenic diet is very reminiscent of CW vs Primal eating.
                      If you can just get your....mind together....then come on across to me.....
                      James Marshall (Jimi)Hendrix

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nachobrawler View Post
                        I also think scaring people off of a ketogenic diet is very reminiscent of CW vs Primal eating.
                        And encouraging them to do something without warning them of the dangers is irresponsible.

                        Gordo

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                        • #13
                          Ok Gordo...agreed. But what "dangers" are we talking about? Telling people to eat carbs for the sake of staying above a certain number per day...so they dont qualify as "VLC" is silly and misinforming them-in my opinion. I would like to know what the dangers are specifically with eating VLC? And no, I didnt read your above posts because, frankly, I have read SO much information about a ketogenic lifestyle over the past several months before and during my adoption of it that I more than likely have read the post several times over. But also, I'm in and out with the kids today for soccer games and such and don't have the time to read them.I dont really have time for this either but I had to make time.

                          Anyway, what I am saying, and we probably agree somewhere in here, is that people should get their nutrition by eating meats (including fish and eggs etc) & vegetables primarily. If they want to include fruit....because they are not worried about losing weight...so be it. If they dont either because they dont like fruit or because they do want to lose weight...that is safe and fine. Eating in this manner WILL result in a ketogenic diet. Avoiding grains, sugars and processed foods IS very healthy. If a person also wants to drop dairy and nuts...again based on their motivational needs for the lifestyle...that is also safe. YOU WILL NOT DIE OR BE MALNOURISHED FROM LIVING ON MEATS AND VEGETABLES. Remember, there are NO essential nutrients in carbohydrates AT ALL. And it is perfectly fine to get all of your carbohydrates from vegetable sources. Now, the ONLY restriction that I have found anywhere in all the articles I have read that has not been refuted some where else is that eating a ketogenic VLC diet will require a large amount of water to be consumed daily. This is to keep fully hydrated and to aid in fat metabolism (which requires hydrolysis of water). Provided that is done...there is no fear of any nutritional ills to be associated with eating VLC (ketogenic).
                          If you can just get your....mind together....then come on across to me.....
                          James Marshall (Jimi)Hendrix

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by nachobrawler View Post
                            But what "dangers" are we talking about? Telling people to eat carbs for the sake of staying above a certain number per day...so they dont qualify as "VLC" is silly and misinforming them-in my opinion. I would like to know what the dangers are specifically with eating VLC? And no, I didnt read your above posts because, frankly, I have read SO much information about a ketogenic lifestyle over the past several months before and during my adoption of it that I more than likely have read the post several times over.
                            Let me summarize: You can't be bothered to read the links, but it's not important because you know that you're right, so why don't I summarize an hour of technical reading in a sentence or two for you. I don't effing think so. You want to read the links and discuss, fine. Otherwise, you're wasting everyone's time by arguing an unsupported opinion. The loaded terms certainly don't help. Ad hominem arguments are the refuge of fools.

                            Originally posted by nachobrawler View Post
                            ...there is no fear of any nutritional ills to be associated with eating VLC (ketogenic).
                            What a load of crap. You're a danger to yourself and anyone who listens to you. I can't help the first, but I'll sure call BS when you give bad advice in public. I've supported my position. Support yours, disprove mine, or eff off.

                            Gordo

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                            • #15
                              @gordo......So cut to the chase a-hole. What is your problem with eating Ketogenic-IN YOUR WORDS? Say it. I have done my reading and will read what I care to read, when I want to read.GOT IT? I will not read garbage sent to me by some numuss who takes a beef with what I have to say for HIS OWN PERSONAL REASONS.

                              And I'm sorry, who the HELL are you? Who died and made you God, the all knowing? There is not a SHRED of evidence that says eating VLC is anymore dangerous than eating LC or C or whatever the hell it is you call what you do. I KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE RESEARCHED IT MYSELF.

                              AND Further....you ought to look at a Vegetarian preaching their dogma and then look in the mirror. The two of you don't look any different to me. You both use the same scare tactics to influence people to view the world in "your" way. Only to make yourself feel better. Misery loves company, I guess. Beat them over the head until they comply.Scare them into submission.

                              Anyway, so much for me not wanting an argument. I guess I got one from some dildo who thinks he's a know it all.

                              And as for your last comment....right back at you dick head. I'm calling BS.....
                              If you can just get your....mind together....then come on across to me.....
                              James Marshall (Jimi)Hendrix

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