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  • #16
    Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
    Oh, good. Cuz I thought my Super Nog was pretty flipping awesome. As much protein as any powder you will find on the market, only dirt cheap (50c for HWC, 80c for 1/2 dozen eggs, spices already in my well-stocked cabinet).
    Dang! Groceries are cheap where you live? I pay $3.50 for a pint of HWC and $5/doz for eggs. Granted it's organic, but still I don't see non organics as cheap as you're getting. That nog would be $4.25 for me. I guess that's not too bad for 1200 calories worth of food, though.

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    • #17
      You're only getting half of the calories from the eggs that they nominally contain. When you cook eggs, you can get 90% of the nominal calories. Take it into your calculations if it's important. Also, raw egg whites can be difficult to digest. I only use the raw yolks in my nog, and add the leftover whites to my omelettes.

      Gordo

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      • #18
        I thought cooking took out the nutrients?

        Daisy, we can't afford a lot of organic. We just get what we can at the grocery store. We can get 5 dozen eggs for $3-$5 depending on who's having a sale, and a half pint of HWC usually runs 50c - $1 (it's for Meadow Gold).

        Post workout is usually my first meal of the day (which is why I mentioned super nog as post workout fuel)
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        • #19
          Better find one with 1-2 ingredients (milk & cream)
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
            Oh, good. Cuz I thought my Super Nog was pretty flipping awesome. As much protein as any powder you will find on the market, only dirt cheap (50c for HWC, 80c for 1/2 dozen eggs, spices already in my well-stocked cabinet).

            My goal is to keep tweaking it to make it even thicker, but keeping the ingredients the same. I think whipping the egg whites and the HWC separately helped yesterday. Pre-diet anything (CW/PB), I was an egg nog hound, but the stuff at the store is so bad for you, IMO. Homemade nog can be so much better, cheaper, and healthier!

            Patrick, I kind of fell off the PB horse for a few weeks, so I'm trying to teach my body to enjoy fats instead of carbs again. I'm a monster when I get home from gym, just absolutely ornery until I eat something. I thought maybe something that was high protein and high fat would be a good choice?
            ive done it so many different ways after lifting...just protein shakes...protein and fruit....protein alone from a real food sources..and im so tired of trying to complicate it..that i just come home and fix me a normal size meal and be done with it...just my 2 cents

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            • #21
              try whipping the heavy cream and then making your super nog. . . sounds fantastic. i could not live without it. usually if i whip up some organic heavy whipping cream and add it to a 1/2 cup of blueberries for a yummy and filling snack. since i have been primal (about a month) i no longer get hungry between meals. . . but when i find myself needing some extra fat i tend to turn to heavy cream. . . it's my new best friend, well that and bacon!!!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                I thought cooking took out the nutrients?
                Urban legend. Cooking denatures proteins, making them more bioavailable. If you're cooking vegetables, it gelatinizes starches, making them more bioavailable. In "Catching Fire", Richard Wrangham makes a convincing argument that our digestive tracts evolved along with cooking and that eating mostly cooked food is how we evolved to eat. Give it a read, it's well written whether or not you end up agreeing with it.

                The only argument I ever hear about eating raw food is that cooking destroys the enzymes, and that's bad. The argument is completely without merit, however. Plants make enzymes for their own use, not ours. The enzymes used to digest plants are the last enzymes that a plant would produce. Same for animals. Making digestive enzymes in your body tissues would be a recipe for disaster.

                Look into the raw egg white issue if you eat them a lot. I like a lot of Chris Masterjohn's stuff. This is what he has to say:

                The Incredible, Edible Egg Yolk

                Gordo

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                  So on another weight loss/health forum I'm on, I mentioned my "Super Nog" as a way to get 1200 cals pretty much instantly, with plenty of protein, and not feel hungry all day long. My super nog contains a half pint of heavy whipping cream, 6 eggs, vanilla, and nutmeg. A few days ago, I asked on here if HWC was a good choice for fats, and the general consensus was "Yum, go for it!", but I got knocked down on this other forum for mentioning it b/c it's loaded with saturated fat.
                  Is my super nog bad? I thought it was the perfect post-workout snack/meal with all of its protein, virtually nonexistent carbs, and delicious fat.
                  OMG that sounds delish. How much vanilla and nutmeg? Do you use the blender to mix it all together and do you use all the egg whites?

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                  • #24
                    Lately I've been using a couple drops of liquid stevia vanilla cream, so maybe a tsp of vanilla. I have a hand held Do It All Kitchen Wonder that has a bunch of different attachments. I throw the HWC in a really tall cup, and whip it up. Whip egg whites until frothy in separate bowl, then fold it together with HWC, egg, and spices. It takes 5 mins tops.
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                    • #25
                      [QUOTE=Dr. Bork Bork;377715]Oh, good. Cuz I thought my Super Nog was pretty flipping awesome.



                      Brilliant pun!!! Here egg nog is also often called egg ....... FLIP!!!!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                        Oh, good. Cuz I thought my Super Nog was pretty flipping awesome.
                        I'm kinda jealous of your super-nog.

                        Tomorrow I'm going to make a cream and egg yolk shake for post lifting.

                        The saturated fat, cholesterol and protein content is truly awe inspiring. And one can chug 1000 calories in 15 seconds. ^^

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                        • #27
                          I think you can get way better nutritional value from cheap/healthier sources of food for your post-workout snack. I mean, it's PWO - your muscles are more receptive to nutrients than anytime else. Why don't you take advantage of it by eating extremely nutrient dense foods that would have otherwise been less efficiently nutrient-extracted?
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                          • #28
                            The Nog sounds AMAZING!!! I'm going to try it for breakfast tomorrow! I get the UK equivalent of heavy cream which is 50% fat and a pint lasts me about 3-4 days - if I told that to any of my CV friends they would have a heart attack on the spot just thinking about all this fat and cholesterol - they never saw me eating butter straight either...
                            thanks for the idea

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                              Oh, good. Cuz I thought my Super Nog was pretty flipping awesome. As much protein as any powder you will find on the market, only dirt cheap (50c for HWC, 80c for 1/2 dozen eggs, spices already in my well-stocked cabinet).

                              My goal is to keep tweaking it to make it even thicker, but keeping the ingredients the same. I think whipping the egg whites and the HWC separately helped yesterday. Pre-diet anything (CW/PB), I was an egg nog hound, but the stuff at the store is so bad for you, IMO. Homemade nog can be so much better, cheaper, and healthier!

                              Patrick, I kind of fell off the PB horse for a few weeks, so I'm trying to teach my body to enjoy fats instead of carbs again. I'm a monster when I get home from gym, just absolutely ornery until I eat something. I thought maybe something that was high protein and high fat would be a good choice?
                              Best to avoid fats after a workout, if your goal is to 'lean out'. General rules for working out, eating and getting lean are:
                              On workout days, increase your carbs slightly (depends what type of workouts you are doing);
                              On non work out days, increase your fat, and lower your carbs;
                              keep protein steady on all days.

                              Again, it depends what type of workouts you are doing an what your goals are. I wouldn't pound back the fat post-workouts.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by sakura_girl View Post
                                I think you can get way better nutritional value from cheap/healthier sources of food for your post-workout snack. I mean, it's PWO - your muscles are more receptive to nutrients than anytime else. Why don't you take advantage of it by eating extremely nutrient dense foods that would have otherwise been less efficiently nutrient-extracted?
                                Because egg yolks aren't extremely nutritionally dense? What would you suggest that would be just as cheap?
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