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    Hi Everyone.
    I've been primal for almost a year now (In April to be precise) and like most of us here, I've never felt better, lost loads of weight, become lean and strong and I am not worried about ever feeling otherwise!

    I'm 29 and I just saw my doctor today with a few tests recommended by him as my husband and I are thinking of trying to get pregnant sometime this year.
    As you can imagine, the results were great, my previously poly cystic ovaries are now normal sized and there's no cause of concern there.

    The only thing the doctor pointed out is that my testosterone levels are on the higher side for women 0.84 ng/ml where the upper limit is 0.8 ng/ml.
    he said that, that meant that there maybe some hormonal imbalance and has prescribed a mild drug that is normally given to borderline diabetics.

    I'm thoroughly confused honestly, is having slightly higher levels of testosterone a cause of concern?
    Should I be taking medicine for it or should I let it be? Does it affect fertility? Has it got alot to do with my primal lifestyle?

    I would rather not have anything to do with medicine if I can avoid it so if anyone has any prior experience or advice to share I'll be really grateful.

    Thanks,
    Aloka

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    I would absolutely NOT take whatever this drug is. That is me though. I don't take so much as an asprin. Your number is only slightly above the so called limit and it disturbs me that this doctor would just immediatley perscribe a drug like that without knowing why it's high. At least maybe retest you. If I were you I'd do all the research I could on this and make an informed decision that way before I'd start the meds process. All too often once you become a customer, you stay a customer.

    I'm no doctor but if I were I'd dig a little deeper as to what is going on here. What is your exercise program? Did you do some sort of high intensity workout before this blood test? A good HIIT session will elevate testosterone and HGH a bit for hours afterwards.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by aloka7 View Post
      Hi Everyone.
      I've been primal for almost a year now (In April to be precise) and like most of us here, I've never felt better, lost loads of weight, become lean and strong and I am not worried about ever feeling otherwise!

      I'm 29 and I just saw my doctor today with a few tests recommended by him as my husband and I are thinking of trying to get pregnant sometime this year.
      As you can imagine, the results were great, my previously poly cystic ovaries are now normal sized and there's no cause of concern there.

      The only thing the doctor pointed out is that my testosterone levels are on the higher side for women 0.84 ng/ml where the upper limit is 0.8 ng/ml.
      he said that, that meant that there maybe some hormonal imbalance and has prescribed a mild drug that is normally given to borderline diabetics.

      I'm thoroughly confused honestly, is having slightly higher levels of testosterone a cause of concern?
      Should I be taking medicine for it or should I let it be? Does it affect fertility? Has it got alot to do with my primal lifestyle?

      I would rather not have anything to do with medicine if I can avoid it so if anyone has any prior experience or advice to share I'll be really grateful.

      Thanks,
      Aloka
      good timing, i am thinking i have the same problem... i wouldnt take meds but whats your daily food intake look like? and exercise?
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      • #4
        What i have knowledge of is that the average female(and males) in the modern age have a ''higher than normal'' estrogen levels due to the toxins and chemicals they are exposed to in the modern world.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Forever Young View Post
          I would absolutely NOT take whatever this drug is. That is me though. I don't take so much as an asprin. Your number is only slightly above the so called limit and it disturbs me that this doctor would just immediatley perscribe a drug like that without knowing why it's high. At least maybe retest you. If I were you I'd do all the research I could on this and make an informed decision that way before I'd start the meds process. All too often once you become a customer, you stay a customer.

          I'm no doctor but if I were I'd dig a little deeper as to what is going on here. What is your exercise program? Did you do some sort of high intensity workout before this blood test? A good HIIT session will elevate testosterone and HGH a bit for hours afterwards.
          I read somewhere that testosterone levels go down after a good HIIT workout. But if what you're saying is true then I don't have a problem as I did my test right after bootcamp which was pretty intense.
          Thanks for your reply. I will probably just get another test done and even then I'm probably going not going to go with popping the drug anytime soon!

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          • #6
            What's the name of the drug he wants to put you on?
            Also with PCOS you tend to have high testosterone levels. Maybe your level of testosterone is coming down after your PCOS improving. You may have had a lot higher levels - is this the first time you tested levels?
            Last edited by Sue; 03-17-2011, 04:45 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by aloka7 View Post
              I read somewhere that testosterone levels go down after a good HIIT workout. But if what you're saying is true then I don't have a problem as I did my test right after bootcamp which was pretty intense.
              Thanks for your reply. I will probably just get another test done and even then I'm probably going not going to go with popping the drug anytime soon!
              One of the reasons why interval training such as sprinting is so effective on so many levels is that it causes a natural release of these hormones which decrease as we age. You are working at a max level and your body needs to be "young" and strong to perform at such a level so it adapts by releasing HGH, testosterone and I'm sure a cascade of others. As a benefit these hormone promote a leaner, younger, stronger body.

              Yes I would definitely have the test done again and not right after a HIIT session.

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              • #8
                I previously had slightly elevated testosterone, but I've not been tested in some time. If you already know you have PCOS, I think it's likely your levels are a little higher than an average female because of that AND the fact you were tested right after a HIIT session pushed it over.

                If your doc says your ovaries have improved, I wouldn't take the drugs (which I am assuming is metformin?). Redo the test on a rest day, but otherwise I think you should just keep doing what you're doing.
                5'6" 27 y/o female, Primal 6 months and counting.

                CW: 160 -- in single-digit dress sizes for the first time in 12 years!

                GW: 150 -- for swimsuit season

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                • #9
                  Hi Sue,
                  yes this is the first time I tested. the drug is called glycomet 500 (metformin basically). Yes it could be that my testosterone levels are coming down, since all the others tests look good. but what I will do is test it once more before I make a decision.
                  Thanks!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by darkersolace View Post
                    I previously had slightly elevated testosterone, but I've not been tested in some time. If you already know you have PCOS, I think it's likely your levels are a little higher than an average female because of that AND the fact you were tested right after a HIIT session pushed it over.

                    If your doc says your ovaries have improved, I wouldn't take the drugs (which I am assuming is metformin?). Redo the test on a rest day, but otherwise I think you should just keep doing what you're doing.
                    Hi,
                    yes the drug is metformin. and thanks for the vote of confidence I'l definitely take the test again! if all my other pcos signs have disappeared then I should not be testing high for anything really, so will do i again to put my doubts to rest! thanks..

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                    • #11
                      To echo what the others said, no way on the metformin. I would google natural alternatives for metformin and see what you come up with.

                      I just looked around and saw some discussion on what it is for in a case like you described, and they were saying it lowers blood sugar when insulin resistance is suspect.

                      My hormone/thyroid doc really likes maitake mushroom extract, SX fraction for this. It is to improve insulin sensitivity.

                      Your numbers are not that far off and no way would I be forcing it down with a prescription drug just based on one test.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by aloka7 View Post
                        Hi Sue,
                        yes this is the first time I tested. the drug is called glycomet 500 (metformin basically). Yes it could be that my testosterone levels are coming down, since all the others tests look good. but what I will do is test it once more before I make a decision.
                        Thanks!
                        Good idea to test again before your decision.
                        So the reason for the metformin as I read - "Metformin significantly increases the frequency of ovulation and decreases circulating testosterone in women with polycystic ovary syndrome who are not obese and have normal indices of insulin sensitivity".
                        Metformin's PCOS benefits not limited to obese women: increases ovulation, reduces testosterone in those with normal insulin sensitivity | Internal Medicine News | Find Articles at BNET

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                        • #13
                          I have both those problems & I know why diabetic meds are used

                          Usually higher levels of testosterone and other symptoms (sometimes just x rays and ultra sounds) are the things that help diagnose Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS). Symptoms usually include hair growth (facial and body) in male areas, acne, weight gain, hair on the top of your head to shed, painful and or irregular periods and problems conceiving children. I was prescribed metformin which is for diabetics. At the time I was desprite because I had nearly every symptom so I tried it, but wondered why this would help me. I also found meca powder because I was looking for a natural way to help this problem. Maca powder is supposed to spike estrogen in the body and give you more energy and help with those issues, but when the day after I tried it I broke out with cystic acne. I was confused because I thought boosting my estrogen would help even out things since my testosterone was high so I did some more research online. I found out putting things with estrogen into our bodies actually boosts bad testosterone higher (which is why I broke out). Also I found out eating things like processed fast foods, meats (especially fast food), sugar, carbohydrates, dairy and soy can do the same thing because they effect that hormone in our bodies so that is where the diabetic meds come in handy. You may not need them though if you try to change your diet a little first. Iíve read success stories about women wanting to get pregnant and couldnít until they change their diets and also ones about women taking the diabetic medication. So itís up to you. Iíd try the natural way (changing your diet) first and if you donít see any changes maybe try a small dosage of the medication. I try to avoid medications at all costs because of side effects, but I can say metformin has been helping me. I still have some of the problems listed above, but they have improved and Iím trying to cut the soy and carbohydrates out of my diet now that I know (which isnít easy). Be careful because so many things have dairy and soy and them and you donít even realize it so when you think youíre eating a little you really ate more that were mixed ingredients in other things (CHECK INGREDIENTS). To get hormone free protein and calcium Iíve been trying to eat and drink almond/almond milk/almond cheeses, beans, nuts, hummus, spinach and other veggies. Wheat pastas are good, but best if they donít contain gluten or egg. I heard that fish is a good source of protein and lean chicken isnít as bad as heavier meats. Good luck . I hope I helped at least one person understand what I was confused with this all myself.

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                          • #14
                            Borderline high means high for testosterone in women. It's just that high testosterone in women is really, really common, so common that women with androgen problems were being observed along with healthy women when the medical community was figuring out how much testosterone is normal.

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                            • #15
                              Yes that's true, but I'm sure her doctor gave it to her because she's trying to have a baby and because she has PCOS and higher levels of testosterone can make that hard.

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