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    I'm perimenopausal and hitting my first round of PMS since going primal. I have done fine up to this point; I would say I am 80/20 primal, with the 20% being dark chocolate, honey in my morning tea, 1 slice of sprouted bread in the morning, and "bad" oils in salad dressings on occasion. A little dairy if you consider that not to be primal (cream in tea, raw milk cheese once a week or so, Greek yogurt a couple times a week).

    I have been moving right along, skipping some meals, doing an occasional IF, increasing my workouts, and feeling great. Have lost 12 pounds overall.

    This morning I got up, found out I have gained a pound and a half in the past few days, and I was HUNGRY, and I mean hungry in a way I have not been hungry for weeks.

    I ate my usual breakfast (2 eggs scrambled in coconut oil, 2 slices uncured bacon,sprouted bread w/butter, and tea with honey and cream). I work from home, so I worked through the morning.

    Later I went to yoga, which usually kills my appetite for hours and I skip lunch those days, but came home starving. So I had a giant salad with the rest of a frittata from last night. Still hungry. Here is where it gets weird.

    I have never made a primal dessert. I am not the kind to figure out a "primal cheat." But I did. Just spur of the moment. I put about a teaspoon of coconut oil and a teaspoon or so of almond butter in a little dish, heated them in the microwave, then added some shredded coconut. Used a square of dark chocolate to dip it out of the bowl. Almond Joy! And I feel much better.

    But my question is, what the heck is going on? Anyone have Primal PMS? Will this pass? Has my IFing and meal skipping messed with me and come back to haunt me or is this something else? Should I go ahead and just listen to my hunger and eat more, eat fat (like the coconut oil and the almond butter), and see what happens?

    I'm a little worried because I have felt great eating less frequently up to this point, but today it's like I have a tapeworm or something.

    Thanks for any anecdotes, suggestions, or general wisdom from those who have been there, done that, and know more than I do.
    Everything I eat has been proved by some doctor or other to be a deadly poison, and everything I don't eat has been proved to be indispensable for life. But I go marching on. ~George Bernard Shaw

    Starting Weight (1/3/2011): 189
    Current Weight: 173

    Goal: To be in the best shape ever by age 50! (5/11/2012)

  • #2
    Do you mean, when you say "Primal PMS" that you are trying to stay primal but also experiencing PMS and having a hard time of it? Progesterone increases in the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle; this is intended to prepare the body for pregnancy and towards that end, elevated progesterone levels are known to increase hunger and sugar cravings, and also to increase insulin resistance, thereby increasing fat storage. So it's not surprising that you're having a harder time staying off the bad stuff during your PMS time.

    I recently started supplementing estrogen and progesterone, and during the 12 days that I take progesterone, I notice a marked increase in morning hunger (I mean I wake up hungry and experience hunger pangs throughout the day), as well as cravings for sweets. Not fun.
    I'm a quitter...but I'm back now.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Eva Lution View Post
      Should I go ahead and just listen to my hunger and eat more, eat fat (like the coconut oil and the almond butter), and see what happens?

      I'm a little worried because I have felt great eating less frequently up to this point, but today it's like I have a tapeworm or something.
      Sounds like PMS hunger to me. Happens to me EVERY month at that time...insatiable hunger, it seems like. I've been trying to add more fat on those days, as well as more protein. The pound and a half is almost certainly water weight associated with that time of the month, too, so I wouldn't sweat it. Just eat fatty, protein-packed foods--as much as makes you full--and see what happens!

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      • #4
        +1 on all accounts. I was FAMISHED for days even though my routine hadn't changed. I finished up my cycle and I don't have any of the issues anymore.
        Yay. 3 more weeks of "normalcy" and then back to fighting the urges of disappearing into Dairy Queen and not coming out for days.

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        • #5
          Me too. I am 48 and was using Pro-gest for my perimenopausal symptoms, but think I will stop and allow my metabolism to regulate with vlc/Primal foods.
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          • #6
            Thanks for the quick replies. I think I'm going to do what you all suggest and just avoid the scales, eat fat and protein, and try to ride it out. I have been just famished all day, but something tells me this is hormonal and I just have to deal with it. I also started working out more recently, so that might have something to do with it, too. I don't know, but I'm going to try and trust my body on this.
            Everything I eat has been proved by some doctor or other to be a deadly poison, and everything I don't eat has been proved to be indispensable for life. But I go marching on. ~George Bernard Shaw

            Starting Weight (1/3/2011): 189
            Current Weight: 173

            Goal: To be in the best shape ever by age 50! (5/11/2012)

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            • #7
              Me three. Once a month (ovulation), I am famished and eat A LOT. Once a month, I have chocolate cravings. Got a bar of dark chocolate this morning (rare for me to do).... and, sure enough, about 4 hours later, guess who comes to visit?

              Just stay away from the scale and give your body what it is wanting. Once my period actually starts, I hardly eat anything at all for a couple of days during the heaviest flow. I honor that as well, and don't eat if I'm not hungry; I do not force myself.
              "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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              • #8
                yeah I've noticed that I am hungrier and need more sleep when I'm having my period, and sometimes in the week leading up to it.

                Does anyone else have a higher incidence of diarrhea/looser stools during their period?

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                • #9
                  Me too! The last few days I have been so hungry and also gained 1 1/2 kgs which does worry me as my scale weight usually stays the same. I shouldn't have weighed myself then it wouldn't have messed with my head. I just figured out though I am due for my period any day soon so that is probably why I am damn hungry all the time!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by imasin View Post
                    yeah I've noticed that I am hungrier and need more sleep when I'm having my period, and sometimes in the week leading up to it.

                    Does anyone else have a higher incidence of diarrhea/looser stools during their period?
                    Yes, it's hormonal.
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                    • #11
                      Another me too here. I eat us out of house, and home when my courses come around. I crave fat like no ones business. Coconut oil goes down me by the spoonfuls, and almonds must be hidden. I just want to sit around, and shove food in my gob all day long.
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                      • #12
                        I'm in the exact same boat. I've been really good with dialing in my calories and carb count as of late but yesterday I was ravenously hungry - absolutely PMS related. Fortunately, I was able to keep my little binge (relatively) primal, although despite adding more protein and fat, nothing really took the edge off. Today was easier.

                        Nice to know it's not just me.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by imasin View Post
                          Does anyone else have a higher incidence of diarrhea/looser stools during their period?
                          Yes.
                          "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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                          • #14
                            Yup cravings for an entire week here. No fun at all. I broke down and had a Marble Slab strawberries and cream *ducks*. Although it was made with whole milk and fruit and no grains lol.

                            I've also tried to start IFing and that didn't help. I'm just going to wait until my special time is over.

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                            • #15
                              Yeah I just eat an insane amount of nuts and fish....come to find out our levels of Magnesium (maybe??) are low around that time and I believe that is the reason I crave such things.

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