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    OK...I'm in need of advice from you senior/long time grok & grokettes.

    Do you supplement? If so, with what and how much/how often?


    About me-I'm interested in continuing my leaning out process. It underway and going well so I dont want to mess with too much. But if there was a supplement or two that anyone knew of that would seriously help in this area...can you please pass on the info???

    Thanks in advance...
    If you can just get your....mind together....then come on across to me.....
    James Marshall (Jimi)Hendrix

  • #2
    I do, but it's for multiple things.
    DAily:
    Vit D, 5k IU- because I'm not in the sun a lot and we're in winter now anyways
    Basic multivitamin
    Niacin- a compromise between me and my doc on my cholesterol
    Selenium- If I don't I have a constant craving for everything high in selenium, to the exclusion of a lot of other things
    raw thyroid supps- thyroid condition
    Skullcap, Bacopa, Gingko Biloba- Suspected ADD, experimenting to see what'll work.
    fish oil: enough to bring my ratio up to 4 o6: 1 o3 or better.
    Occasionally:
    Choline- Similar reasoning to the selenium
    Lady Primrose oil- female issues
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    • #3
      Don't know how senior I am, I've been doing it for about a year now. I take vitamin D (I work at night so it's a neccesity even though I live in South Florida), and fish oil. The fish oil amount varies depending on what else i've eaten to get my 3/6 ratio as close to 1:1 as I can. That's pretty much it for me. I try to get anything else from food, but I don't have any specific conditions that might call for something else. I've been concidering taking something like Natural Calm since I know I have more than my fair share of stress in my life, but I don't really know that much about it and don't want to start untill I do.
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      • #4
        I don't use supplements. Click the link for the full explanation.
        "In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they couldn't be more different."

        "You can have anything you want, but you can't have everything you want."

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        • #5
          Thanks everyone. I am of the same opinion, Al. I do not currently supplement anything other than the fish oil for Omega-3/6 ratio and vitamin D. I have used creatine in the past when attempting to go for strength gains, and it truly does work, but I am not worried about strength just now. I'm plenty strong enough for what I want.

          So, Im thinking, no supplements needed. Stick to the diet/lifestyle and chip away at the body fat! Slowly but surely...
          If you can just get your....mind together....then come on across to me.....
          James Marshall (Jimi)Hendrix

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          • #6
            Sounds good, man - just stay the course!
            "In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they couldn't be more different."

            "You can have anything you want, but you can't have everything you want."

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            • #7
              Vitamin D3, 5000iu and Krill oil. Sometimes magnesium but I'm not sure it's doing anything for me.

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              • #8
                I'm on a supplement protocol for my autoimmune disease, so most of my supplements are pretty specific, but for leaning out, here are some basics that anyone could use:

                Magnesium (used for over 300 metabolic processes in the body and most of us are deficient)
                D3 (combats insulin resistance- most of us are deficient)
                Omega 3- krill is good (reduces inflammation that can impede fat loss)
                CLA (I've known many people who have leaned out with this- it can take a few months)

                Beyond that, intermittent fasting, ala Lean Gains and getting enough sleep are also really helpful and for many people, ditching the dairy (except butter and possibly cream) can help a lot.
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                • #9
                  2700-3600 mg omega 3's from fish oil
                  500 mg magnesium chelate
                  650 mcg iodine from kelp (thyroid support)
                  10000 iu D3
                  Daily Total One multivitamin from Country Life
                  Last edited by bokbadok; 02-20-2011, 12:28 PM. Reason: fixed a number
                  42 yo female; 5'8"
                  Oct 2009: 205 lbs
                  Dec 2010: 167 lbs
                  Current weight: 158 lbs (first time under 160 in 17 years!!!)
                  Goal weight: 145 lbs

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                  • #10
                    I'm not a senior member by any means. But I started Jan 3rd and I've been supplementing since day 1. I use the PAGG (Policosanol, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Garlic (Allicin), and Green Tea) stack suggested in the 4 hour body, as well as B,C,D,Magnesium and I'm currently trying out Conjugated linoleic acid to see if I find any benefit to it.

                    I don't know how well I'd be doing without supplements but I started Jan 3rd at 277 and now I'm around 246 and have lost the stuck out belly. One of the best/worst parts of being 6'5" was that hiding the weight was easy, but after I started getting blood blisters in my stretch marks I had enough. I plan on ceasing the supplementation when I hit 215 and doing the last 15 pounds I'd like to lose all natural.

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                    • #11
                      As far as nutritional supplements go, try tracking your food for one week (or more) on fitday or self.com to see where you are against the USDA's recommended intakes. See what you're not getting enough of (ignoring the warnings for saturated and total fat and cholesterol, of course), and either supplement those or figure out what you need to add to get to sufficiency.

                      Personally I'm currently supplementing vit D, fish oil, probiotics, and a vit B complex. I'm working on increasing my actual fish intake versus taking fish oil, I'll be done with the probiotics as soon as the bottle runs out, and the vit B.... not sure about that yet, might continue (or not) once the bottle's finished. Vit D I'll probably stick with because the weather's just gray right now; I used to go up to the roof of my building and have my BAS without my shirt on, but it's not so fun when it's rainy and/or windy

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                      • #12
                        AndreaReina...thanks for the tracking advice. That seems certainly doable.For curiosity sake it would be nice to know how I measure up against the recommendations.

                        But my real question is whether or not you supplement AND if so....what positive effects, if any, have you noticed?

                        To be honest, I tend not to care too much about measuring up against the recommendations of the USDA. As we all know those recs are politicized from the big AG lobby's and such. And since Im not eating what they recommend with my PB lifestyle...my guess would be that Im probably not meeting their recommendations. And that's not necessarily bad.
                        If you can just get your....mind together....then come on across to me.....
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Al_Kavadlo View Post
                          I read your blog and I completely understand your point. But what about the argument that our soils have been so over
                          farmed and depleted and not given a chance to recolonize that the soil is void of the needed minerals and what not to grow as healthy of a food as the good old days?
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                          • #14
                            I'm definitely a newbie at all this, but this made me want to chime in:

                            Originally posted by pattyd View Post
                            I read your blog and I completely understand your point. But what about the argument that our soils have been so over
                            farmed and depleted and not given a chance to recolonize that the soil is void of the needed minerals and what not to grow as healthy of a food as the good old days?
                            I'd heard this elsewhere over the years (can't recall the source), and that lead me to the belief that a multi-vitamin/multi-mineral supplement was worth taking everyday. I'm not knowledgeable nor overly concerned about the brand, so long as it has some of the core nutrients in it.



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                            I also take fish-oil daily.

                            D3 I've just started after reading up on it,

                            B-Complex occasionally (seems to mess with my appetite if I take it every day).

                            Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc - keep it on hand, haven't figured out a system yet.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by hazyjane View Post
                              CLA (I've known many people who have leaned out with this- it can take a few months)
                              If it takes a few months to lean out from CLA (and I assume these are folks who have also made dietary adjustments), how do you know that the CLA was a major factor in the weight loss? It seems to me like there are too many factors to conclusively state that CLA supplementation makes any substantial difference.

                              Originally posted by pattyd View Post
                              I read your blog and I completely understand your point. But what about the argument that our soils have been so over
                              farmed and depleted and not given a chance to recolonize that the soil is void of the needed minerals and what not to grow as healthy of a food as the good old days?
                              Interesting concern. All I can tell you is that I don't use supps (vitamin or other) and I am in excellent health. If you want to take a vitamin supp, that's your prerogative. Who knows, maybe I'm setting myself up for problems down the line - only time will tell!
                              "In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they couldn't be more different."

                              "You can have anything you want, but you can't have everything you want."

                              My blog: http://www.AlKavadlo.com

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