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  • Glucosamine, is the jury still out?

    Some studies are for, some against, some claim anecdotal evidence, others say its just the placebo effect.
    If you use it - or indeed stopped using it, what did you think?

    By the same token, if you eat a your marrow or gnaw away at chicken bones and tendons, ever had any joint or arthritis issues?

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    From individual experience, I have used it on multiple older dogs with joint issues from various causes....all have done seriously better on it rather then not. I tend to put them on something new and not change ANY other factor so I can narrow down what works best. Its not magical, and our older dogs still have some stability and muscle loss, but a limp while running will completely disappear while on supplements for example.

    Husband who has knee issues from playing baseball catcher and such reports major differences if he takes his glucosamine/msm regularly versus not. He climbs 14'ers while hunting/guiding for months during the summer and fall each year.

    So just our personal experience.
    Erin
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    • #3
      gelatin works well too
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      • #4
        50% reduction in pain after 7 days of 4 pills a day. I am 65 and off ibuprofen.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Meadow View Post
          From individual experience, I have used it on multiple older dogs with joint issues from various causes....all have done seriously better on it rather then not. .
          Funnily enough, that's why I was asking. One of our dogs is a Lab who's getting a little long in the tooth, he's hyper, and I keep him slim, so no signs of trouble - but with labs, its always in the post.

          Good to see some folk are having positive results also, if - ha -when I start to go creaky in the knees, I might give it a shot.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MalPaz View Post
            gelatin works well too
            What kind of gelatin?

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            • #7
              I have tried it several times. Never noticed any improvement.
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              • #8
                I'm about 2 weeks into a trial run myself. Creaky knees still, but I promised to give it at least 6 weeks.

                Our dog is also on the trial; she's a 7 year old blue heeler who is occasionally stiff in the joints after long hikes/runs. No change yet, but hoping for the best.
                Jen, former Midwesterner, living in the middle of nowhere.

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                • #9
                  I have two labs and I give it to them. My older one, who is 11, has pretty bad arthritis in her front legs. I noticed an improvement in her gait about 10 days after we started giving it to her. Of course, I started her on doggie NSAIDs and pain meds at the same time. There was improvement within 24 hours of beginning the NSAIDs and then another noticeable improvement at 10 days. I did not notice any difference in my younger dog but he does not have arthritis yet. Hoping to delay it for him.

                  I used to have arthritis in my knees and did not really notice any difference. However, my arthritis was so advanced I had a double knee replacement last year at 43. I think it may have helped had the arthritis not been so advanced by the time I tried it.

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                  • #10
                    I tried it for 3 months with no improvement in my aching hips. My sports med doc says resesrch indicates if it's going to help it will do so in 3 months or less. Also beware of a lot of crappy product on the market. Consumer Reports did an evaluaion and has a list of the good brands. I'm sure it's floating around the web.

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                    • #11
                      I've heard of many dogs who showed improvement after being on glucosamine. I give mine Halo's Vita Glo Hip and Joint Supplement. They don't have arthritis, but their breed is prone to joint issues.

                      I haven't taken it myself yet.

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                      • #12
                        You might also want to consider switching your dogs to a grain-free diet and giving them fish oil (along wiht the glucosamine.) All of these changes/additions made a huge difference to my older dog, but I think the most profound change was when I got rid of the grain in her food.

                        Go figure, eh?

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                        • #13
                          I second the grain free diet...I do the fish oil and grain free as well. Although I started the glucosamine on our aging dogs before the other two items, so I do know it played a significant role in their improvement. We have bird dogs so they take a beating running long distances in cold weather. Our youngest is 6 and she is doing good, but I will probably start her on a maintenance dose in a year or two.

                          Originally I considered using human glucosamine/MSM mixes....but the ratios did not match what was recommended for dogs. So I now use Glycoflex II and just shop around on the net for the best prices.
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                          • #14
                            Well, interesting. We're about 2/3 of the way through our first bag of Glyco-flex III, and I'd also say that it's had a very significant effect on our almost 9-year old dog. He's had some auto-immune issues most of his life and so has been on a non-allergenic diet (not sure if it's entirely grain-free, but certainly low grain). The Glyco-Flex has had obvious impact on his mobility and his energy level.

                            Moving to the human side, has anyone followed up on the idea of glucosamine being a general-purpose anti-inflammatory? Dr Ayers (the coolinginflammation blog author) recommends taking a supplement in this fashion - not specifically for joint health, but more generally. I haven't really seen much discussion on that aspect though, so I'm not sure if it's a "couldn't hurt" recommendation or whether the positive benefits are more established.

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