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  • How Particular Are You About Not Eating Grains?

    I started thinking about this after reading the thread on eating pasta at a friends house.

    How particular are you about eating grains? Does it vary based on the grain?

    I do not eat wheat, or anything that may have touched wheat. I'm celiac, or at the very least VERY gluten-intolerant. Most of my friends asked what it does to me, I explained (heartburn from Hades, extreme fatigue, headaches, sinus infections, etc.), and then we moved on. We rarely eat meals at other people's houses - we generally go out to a few places I know are GF and trust (Olive Garden is NOT on that list, even though they have a GF menu - Outback and Carino's ROCK).

    Other grains? I avoid oatmeal, barley, and rye (all gluten or guilty by association). I eat a little rice - mainly with sushi. I don't eat corn, but if something was made with a bit of cornstarch to thicken the sauce, I'm not going to argue.
    Most people don't realize how much energy it takes for me to pretend to be normal.

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  • #2
    Context: I've been Primal for 4-5 months or so. I think that context matters.*

    I don't eat grains ever when it's just me. If I have friends over, they eat what I cook. Likewise, when I'm over at a friend's place, I eat what they cook. Now, I personally have no allergies or serious issues to work around. If I did, I'd ensure those were known to friends and family well in advance of eating over/going out and operate accordingly.


    * If I was still in my first few weeks of transitioning to Primal living, I'd opt out of "social eating" simply because small set-backs can wreak havoc with some people, either biochemically or just plain guilt-wise. I'd simply tell people what was up and hope they don't feel bad about me not being there for the meals themselves, which is to say there's nothing to stop you from going over after!
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    • #3
      I don't eat any grains, however if I was at a dinner party and some reicipe or something had a little bit of grains in it I'd probably still eat it, but that doesn't happen very often.
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      • #4
        If anyone has doubts about whether to eat grains or not, see the links below my message.
        We don't eat eat grains or oatmeal EVER. Cardiologist Dr. Wm Davis has convinced us to avoid all grains - period!

        Grizz

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        • #5
          I used to avoid all grains like the plague, but have become lenient with the new year. I don't go out of my way to eat it, but if circumstances align, I might have some. The Partner is not so lenient and if I partake, she won't kiss me (even though she's never had reactions to the stuff, and I do).

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          • #6
            I'm celiac, have been gluten free for 3 years, Primal for 9 months. I don't eat grains 99% of the time. I NEVER eat gluten grains, even at dinner parties, even to avoid hurting someones feelings, etc.

            I occasionally will sample something if someone made something specifically gluten free for us, and if it looks good. Occasionally that's on accident. Yesterday I was working a catering event and my boss was all excited that the chocolate peanut butter balls were gluten free so I ate on (it was about 1/2 inch around, not that huge of a deal) and it was crispy on the inside so I asked what was crunchy? It was rice krispies.. lol. She was horrified that she may have contaminated me with gluten, but I assured her that she was right, rice is gluten free.

            Maybe 4 times last year there were occasions that tortilla chips and guac/pico etc were a large part of what was going on and sounded great to me so I ate them for a couple days (vacation in Puerto Vallarte with a personal chef who did AMAZING with gf/grain free- I lost fat that vacay!), weekend in Austin with the hubs, christmas with my brother, etc. These were all a couple days deviation, I got bloated and didn't feel great, and then I got over it and moved on.

            Other than corn chips, nothing else has really tempted me enough to "cheat". I plan ahead, bake goodies for my kids and me if we are going to gatherings, tell people politely and gracefully that I would LOVE to try x and y, but can't eat z unfortunately. :-) At this point, I have enough people in my life wanting to know how I eat because I look so great-ha!

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            • #7
              I avoided grains completely for about a year when I went primal. I've recently introduced them back a little bit. But avoiding them was necessary to wipe the slate so I can accurately measure my threshold for them. I have IBS and fructose malabsorption. I'm also lactose intolerant.

              However, going very very low carb wasn't working for me in the long term. Could keep up the sustained energy. Many said eat more fat! But if anything that became inconvenient with my schedule.

              I actually find it harder to tolerate corn and rice than bread. As for bread, I'm finding if I eat a piece of fermented bread (sourdough, rye, pumpernickel) once every three days before bed or in the morning, that helps me keep up my energy levels. Also unlike corn or rice, one piece of bread doesn't give me an immediate crash.

              We'll see how it goes. If my IBS starts acting up or I start crashing soon after eating, I know even those levels are too high.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Millie Ivy View Post
                I occasionally will sample something if someone made something specifically gluten free for us, and if it looks good. Occasionally that's on accident. Yesterday I was working a catering event and my boss was all excited that the chocolate peanut butter balls were gluten free so I ate on (it was about 1/2 inch around, not that huge of a deal) and it was crispy on the inside so I asked what was crunchy? It was rice krispies.. lol. She was horrified that she may have contaminated me with gluten, but I assured her that she was right, rice is gluten free.
                Rice krispies aren't - they use barley malt to sweeten them.
                Most people don't realize how much energy it takes for me to pretend to be normal.

                If I wanted to listen to an asshole, I'd fart.

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                • #9
                  Not very for a primal person. I don't keep it in the house, and I don't seek it out, but I indulge occasionally. Like a snowy night my daughter wanted popcorn and a movie. Or a roll in a restaurant (I haven't been to a restaurant since going primal, so that's hypothetical) But for the most part, no grain. It's no good for me. It triggers cravings and makes me nauseous/gurgly/sick.


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                  • #10
                    Wheat, rye, barley, oats - zero
                    Rice - Some white rice. it does seem to spike my blood sugar
                    Corn - Some corn tortillas, fresh corn in season
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                    • #11
                      Occasionally a spoonful of rice.
                      I've probably had some minor grain intake in the form of corn starch or whatever when eating out, and I don't worry about that.
                      Occasionally a tiny bite of something the kids are eating that they want me to try.

                      Otherwise, no grains. Don't really feel like eating them any more, and still don't trust myself not to go CRAZY on sugar and baked goods if I try a moderate intake approach.
                      Liz.

                      Zone diet on and off for several years....worked, but too much focus on exact meal composition
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                      • #12
                        After some nasty gas/bloating from my first gluten in 3 months, I will be avoiding it completely in the future.

                        White Rice and corn I will eat, but only very occasionally and in very small quantities.
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                        • #13
                          At the risk of getting flamed....I never intend to 100% eliminate any food. I'm not eating any copious grain but I believe my dijon mustard that I use in my salad dressing has corn. The family still eats everything so it is there in the house and I probably get a crumb. I go out to eat a lot and I go for primal but I dont grill the waitstaff for starch contamination. dh and I went to a restaurant on saturday that we could not normally afford - like a once in a year dinner at best. Dh ordered empanadas, I tried a bite. The quail I ordered came stuffed (which the menu did not indicate) with an amazing mixture of fruit and nuts and a little I'm guessing wheat bread. Fantastic. My kids had refried beans the other night and I got some on my fork. oh well.

                          I am not allergic to anything, nor am I celiac. I have seen too many people over the years eliminate foods 100% from their diet and then if they accidentally have even a little bit they are sick as a dog. I know many on here see that as proof that the food was always making you sick, you just didnt know it. I have no desire to magnify my currently undetectable symptoms. Besides, my friend from college had been strict vegetarian for 20 years and a few years ago she noticed that every time she ate food her MIL prepared she got violently ill even though she was so careful to avoid meat, grilling her mother in law on ingredients (after a few unfortunate "oh chicken broth doesnt count" arguments. She started avoiding every dish her MIL made. Finally after a particularly bad bout of illness following eating a dish a cousin supposedly made, her MIL confessed to hiding meat in the vegetarian dishes because she thought it was stupid, and then making the cousin take credit for the dish because she thought the illness was all in Peggy's head. The woman put meat broth in cake. (I can ask her for the recipe for y'all) Peggy simply was incapable of digesting meat anymore.

                          The more they are finding with the immune system and allergies and overcleanliness leads me to further feel that unless I have a definable allergy/disease, that occasionally ingesting small amounts of grain toxin keeps my body remembering how to deal with the toxin properly, just like it does with other toxins that might enter my body.
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                          • #14
                            I stopped eating wheat two years ago and all grains in September. I have added back a little rice very occasionally as well as an occasional corn chip at a party. I have a wheat/gluten allergy so I will never be adding most grains back in. I feel so much better now that I am not eating them.

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                            • #15
                              I skip out on grains with things I can control. Grains in the house; no. Go out to dinner where I can make my own choices; no grains. Going to someone's house for dinner or a party; I would. I'm going to a super bowl party today and I'll probably have some type of grains. I've avoided them since I've started and I don't think one day out of a month and a half will derail everything I've done. Tomorrow I'll be back on track until the next situation I can't control.

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