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    Hello everyone! I just became a member of this site after living Paleo for 3 weeks. I've lost 7 lbs. I've been eating eggs, beef, bacon, salmon, venison, duck, chicken, various veggies (with an occasional sweet potato), some fruit, a few nuts, 70% dark chocolate, olive oil, and butter.

    A typical day during the week would be this:
    -Activia yogurt for breakfast around 8:00 am
    -salmon with asparagus or eggs with veggies for dinner
    -small piece of chocolate or serving of coconut milk "frozen dessert"
    -40-60 fl oz water

    During the week, the water keeps me full between breakfast and dinner... I'm not usually hungry until around 3-4:00, and I'll have dinner between 5:30-6:30. Also, when I eat dinner I like to eat a lot of food, so trust me, although it sounds like I'm not eating enough, I am!

    I work a desk job during the day and am relatively sedentary throughout the rest of the week. I'm really trying to push myself to move more!

    Now on to my question: I'm going to buy Ketostix tomorrow and test to see if I'm in ketosis. I was wondering, if I am, should I strive to stay that way? If I'm not, what can I do to become so?

  • #2
    From my reading here it seems ketosis works for some and not for others. Some eat very low carbs and do great, others say that if they are not in the 100-150 range for carbs they do not lose weight. I think it all depends on your body and no one answer fits all. If you are not in ketosis and want to be then the way I understand it is that you cut carbs. I'd run your food through an online calculator to see where you are carb wise and once you see if you are in ketosis or not post your food break down (carbs, fat etc) and get advice then.

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    • #3
      Why do you want to be in ketosis?

      Grizz

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      • #4
        I thought you're supposed to be in ketosis for your body to use fat for energy?

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        • #5
          My god, ketosis aside you are eating almost NOTHING. That must be way under 1,000 calories. Don't.

          And why Activia yogurt?? Low fat, low cal, full of added sugar, isn't it? Greek yogurt (full fat if you can find it, though I can't always) is vastly better foryou.

          Have you read The Primal Blueprint, or any well-informed book on primal/paleo eating? You seem to be making up what you think it is. That ends up being what some folks call the Faileo diet.

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          • #6
            I try to stay in ketosis, but yeah I like my steak, bacon and veggies. I'd say try to cut out the chocolate and yogurt and eat higher fat more satisfying things in their place. My issue is when I have a leeeetle bit of sugar it wakes up my inner sugar fiend and before I know it I'm slamming lara bars and it wrecks everything. LOL. I'm not saying go no carb, you can experiment to see how much you can handle and stay in ketosis or losing weight... but for me sugar kills any weight loss so I get my carbs in the form of veggies for the most part.

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            • #7
              +2
              you are starving yrself - my 6 yr old eats more than that
              - nowhere near enuff fat either

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              • #8
                If your trying to lose weight, just keep the carbs below 150 a day (use Fitday to calculate) Aim for 100. I would lose the sweet potatoes and only add them in once you have lost the weight, then if you increase your training load to increase muscle, you can have them post workout. I would also cut down on the fruit too. I believe that your eating enough for your activity level, but if weight lose is your goal I would add some kind of weight training or at least a good long walk everyday.
                I highly recommend reading the Primal Blueprint if your serious, better yet, read a bunch of books, Robb Wolf's is pretty good too.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PrairieProf View Post
                  And why Activia yogurt?? Low fat, low cal, full of added sugar, isn't it? Greek yogurt (full fat if you can find it, though I can't always) is vastly better foryou.
                  I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that Activia didn't have any unique probiotic properties, either. Basically it has the same probiotics found in any yogurt with live cultures.

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                  • #10
                    Another vote to ditch the Activia. Those commercials make me want to throw a chair through my TV. Ugh. Take something that could be healthy - yogurt - and take all the fat out and add in a bunch of sugar. WTF.

                    It also seems to me like you aren't eating very much.
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                    • #11
                      I agree with everyone else - you are starving yourself and that is not the program here. I lost over 40 lb of fat in 6 months without every bothering to find out anything about ketosis, never skipping a meal if I was truly hungry for it, not tricking my stomach by filling it with water - you are basically just doing a starvation diet and removing grains. Read the book and give it a proper try, and don't think you are "doing Primal / Paleo" because you are not.
                      If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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                      • #12
                        After having beautiful, pudding-like greek yogurt, I don't think I can willingly go back to runny regular yogurt.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by nopie View Post
                          I try to stay in ketosis, but yeah I like my steak, bacon and veggies. I'd say try to cut out the chocolate and yogurt and eat higher fat more satisfying things in their place. My issue is when I have a leeeetle bit of sugar it wakes up my inner sugar fiend and before I know it I'm slamming lara bars and it wrecks everything. LOL. I'm not saying go no carb, you can experiment to see how much you can handle and stay in ketosis or losing weight... but for me sugar kills any weight loss so I get my carbs in the form of veggies for the most part.
                          Did you take this right out of my brain?? Oh, the Larabars of doom!!

                          I've found that I personally cannot lose weight unless carbs are below 30g/day (that's equivalent to one piece of fruit or one potato or ...), but that even worse, I can't get rid of bloating if I eat any carbs at all other than non-starchy veggies & dairy that's been fermented at least 24hrs.

                          But I am losing weight, and a lot of it, and I'm eating a lot of food. 3 eggs in a load of coconut oil for breakast (was doing 4 when I weighed a lot more and still lost), full serving of meat + veggies and loads of fat for lunch, big serving of full fat homemade (can't eat storebought Greek; too many carbs; keeps me bloated) yogurt for a snack, 6-8 ounces of fatty meat for dinner with lots of extremely butter veggies.

                          Ketosis leaves me feeling better than I have since I was a teenager. I feel GREAT! The moment I slip out, the bloating and moodiness and all the rest comes back. Anyway, I'm digressing.

                          Eat more fat, eat less meat, get the sugar out. There's no way you're in ketosis with what you're eating right now. Do you think you're a sugar addict? I know I am.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
                            Did you take this right out of my brain?? Oh, the Larabars of doom!!

                            I've found that I personally cannot lose weight unless carbs are below 30g/day (that's equivalent to one piece of fruit or one potato or ...), but that even worse, I can't get rid of bloating if I eat any carbs at all other than non-starchy veggies & dairy that's been fermented at least 24hrs.

                            But I am losing weight, and a lot of it, and I'm eating a lot of food. 3 eggs in a load of coconut oil for breakast (was doing 4 when I weighed a lot more and still lost), full serving of meat + veggies and loads of fat for lunch, big serving of full fat homemade (can't eat storebought Greek; too many carbs; keeps me bloated) yogurt for a snack, 6-8 ounces of fatty meat for dinner with lots of extremely butter veggies.

                            Ketosis leaves me feeling better than I have since I was a teenager. I feel GREAT! The moment I slip out, the bloating and moodiness and all the rest comes back. Anyway, I'm digressing.

                            Eat more fat, eat less meat, get the sugar out. There's no way you're in ketosis with what you're eating right now. Do you think you're a sugar addict? I know I am.
                            Either I took it right out of your head or you took *that* right out of *my* head LOL.

                            What's funny is that when I am just having a bit of carbs. I won't drop weight but I will make progress that will suddenly only show itself when I keep a clean diet for a few days. Like I retain water to replace the fat I am losing or something. Because I can jump in weight 5-10 lbs in a day or so, but still be getting "thinner" under that water.

                            I'm absolutely a sugar addict. I feel so much mental clarity, less hunger and cravings, better moods, and my workouts are so much better when I am in ketosis. Also staying in ketosis gives me a cheap thrill of peeing on a stick periodically and being excited to watch the colour change. You can't beat that!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dr. Bork bork View Post
                              after having beautiful, pudding-like greek yogurt, i don't think i can willingly go back to runny regular yogurt.
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