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    So I've been a Kashi GoLean lover for a while now. It seems like such a wholesome cereal (low sugar, low cal, high fiber, high protein). I'm also new to the Primal lifestyle.

    DO I HAVE TO GIVE UP MY BELOVED KASHI?

    I will be so very sad if I do, but will bow to Grok if that is what He wishes.

    Also, in the last few days since I've started cutting carbs back, I've found that I've had a really hard time eating enough calories in a day. I've been on a weight loss journey for over a year now, so I'm used to eating 1200-1500 cals a day, but since I've started trying to go Primal, I'm having a hard time meeting the base 1200. Help?
    --Trish (Bork)
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  • #2
    Here's a kick ass recipe that will make you gladly give up your kashi:

    http://girlgoneprimal.blogspot.com/2...ola-final.html
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    -John Lennon

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    • #3
      Kashi can remain...in your 20% Some people here spend their 20% routinely (i.e pizza every Friday, etc.) so maybe you'll want a bowl of Kashi every now and again as yours. However, it shouldn't be a part of your regular diet as it's so heavy in grains! I'll tell you, though, that roasted chopped nuts in milk is amazing, and might have the similar Kashi crunch.

      For not getting enough calories, I'm betting you're not eating enough fat. That's a common problem for newcomers. However, to truly understand why you're going so low calorie, it would be best for you to share what you've been eating.

      If fat is the problem, eat eggs with the yolks, bacon, butter, coconut oil, ground beef, chicken thighs, avocado, etc. and I'm sure your calories will be where you want them!

      Edit: The nut cereal I was talking about is the exact one lil_earthmomma posted! Great minds

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      • #4
        BOW TO GROK! Kashi is sooo not Primal--and I imagine if you drop it completely for 2 weeks, you may not have a taste for it anymore...

        ...and of course you can use it in your 20%--but why?
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        • #5
          The recipe you two provided does look tasty (especially ground up into a hot mash with some almond milk). Is it okay to buy egg whites from the store? My Grok is lazy, LOL.

          Before I started going primal, my typical day looked something like this:

          BREAKFAST:
          1 cup Kashi GoLean (I like it b/c it's high protein, high fiber, and low sugar)
          1/2 cup Unsweetened Almond Milk
          1 banana (or 1 serving diced peaches)

          MORNING SNACK:
          1 fat free chobani greek yogurt

          LUNCH:
          Healthy Choice meal or Atkins Advantage shake

          AFTERNOON SNACK:
          Larabar (or protein bar like ThinkThin or Atkins), babybel lite cheese wedge, or other small treat

          DINNER:
          lean protein (we tend to eat chicken most nights, with fish some nights, and hamburger or ground turkey on occasion), 1/2 cup rice or 1 med. potato, 1/2 cup - 1 cup vegetables
          We didn't have rice or potato every night, but many nights did look like that.

          Also enjoyed evening snack on occasion of fruit or ice cream

          BTW, how big of a difference is there between Primal & Paleo?

          EDIT: Nevermind. Silly little new Grok went looking for the answer to that last one.
          Last edited by Dr. Bork Bork; 01-09-2011, 08:54 PM.
          --Trish (Bork)
          TROPICAL TRADITIONS REFERRAL # 7625207
          http://pregnantdiabetic.blogspot.com
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          • #6
            I feel hungry in a "I'm going to inhale the next donut I see" kinda way just reading your pre-primal menu. Such a different kind of feeling than I get when reading about some delicious, fat-rich primal fare, which has me planning my next day's food.

            What are your goals?
            Liz.

            Zone diet on and off for several years....worked, but too much focus on exact meal composition
            Primal since July 2010...skinniest I've ever been and the least stressed about food

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            • #7
              I'd like to lose about 35 lbs (I've lost 76 so far on my pre-primal lifestyle), and get ready to start TTC this August. I am a SAHM to a crazy, insanely smart 2yo girl. I've been on a plateau since June. Fluctuating between the same 3 lbs is pretty darn obnoxious! I am accustomed to planning each and every meal (it's soothing to me. I think it's the sense of control it gives me) down to the calorie. Whether I stick to it or not is another story, but I don't typically deviate much. I also drink plenty of water (at least 1/2 my body weight in ounces daily, so about 90 oz)
              --Trish (Bork)
              TROPICAL TRADITIONS REFERRAL # 7625207
              http://pregnantdiabetic.blogspot.com
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              • #8
                This is going to be quite a switch, then. You'll need to add a lot more fat and cut a lot of carbs. I'd cut out all fruit for a while, toss anything with the words "lean" or "fat free" or "low fat". Add lots more green veggies. And yes, eventually ditch the Kashi. Oatmeal was my 20% through my first 6 weeks of primal, and I thought at first I could never give it up. But I switched abruptly to eggs/bacon/onions/tomatoes/spinach for breakfast and have never looked back. Can't imagine bland old oatmeal any more

                It might freak you out for a while as you write it down and see the differences to what you have been eating. Hopefully you'll eventually get to the point where the richness of primal food will allow you to trust yourself to eat right without writing everything down.
                Liz.

                Zone diet on and off for several years....worked, but too much focus on exact meal composition
                Primal since July 2010...skinniest I've ever been and the least stressed about food

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                • #9
                  Also wanted to note that I want to RUN in a marathon (right now I can maybe last 2 mins on pavement, and 5-10 on a treadmill), so I try to run 3 days a week (have a 5k coming up at the end of the month). The last few days I've been limiting myself to 50-100 carbs. Waiting for my Primal Blueprint book & Primal Blueprint Cookbook to arrive. I'm also T2 diabetic. My typical day prior to PM was about 150 carbs.

                  I've noticed that I don't have a whole lot of self control as far as food goes. We had a lot of food in the house over the holidays that I just PIGGED out on. If there's junk food around, I will inevitably eat it. So we try to keep only "good" food in the house.
                  Last edited by Dr. Bork Bork; 01-09-2011, 09:32 PM.
                  --Trish (Bork)
                  TROPICAL TRADITIONS REFERRAL # 7625207
                  http://pregnantdiabetic.blogspot.com
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                  • #10
                    You'll almost certainly get more self-control when you eat primally.

                    It will be interesting to hear your thoughts on your exercise regime once you read the fitness part of the book.

                    Good luck!
                    Liz.

                    Zone diet on and off for several years....worked, but too much focus on exact meal composition
                    Primal since July 2010...skinniest I've ever been and the least stressed about food

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for your support. I have read a little about moving slowly, frequently, but I've always wanted to be a runner. If it promises to improve my time and help me run for long periods, I'll be all over it!
                      --Trish (Bork)
                      TROPICAL TRADITIONS REFERRAL # 7625207
                      http://pregnantdiabetic.blogspot.com
                      FOOD PORN BLOG! http://theprimaljunkfoodie.blogspot.com

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                      • #12
                        Running for long periods isn't Primal, but there are certainly endurance runners who eat Primally. You can find more fitness tips specific to endurance athletes on the Primal Athlete forum.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                          DO I HAVE TO GIVE UP MY BELOVED KASHI?
                          If you want to eat Primally, yes. Kashi is not Primal and we are not meant to eat it.
                          Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

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                          • #14
                            Dragonfly, thanks. I also ordered Paleo for Athletes, and glad to see it mentioned on this thread:
                            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ning-nutrition
                            --Trish (Bork)
                            TROPICAL TRADITIONS REFERRAL # 7625207
                            http://pregnantdiabetic.blogspot.com
                            FOOD PORN BLOG! http://theprimaljunkfoodie.blogspot.com

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                            • #15
                              Egg whites at the store should be fine... as long as they don't have anything weird in them. I can't imagine they do, do they?!?

                              It's a very easy recipe. I buy the nuts. I get home, whip the eggs while I chop the nuts in the food processor. (I like using sliced almonds because they're like cereal flakes but BETTER!) Chop some fine and some coarse. Then I mix in the fluffy egg whites, spread on a parchment covered pan, drizzle the maple syrup or honey over and bake. I've tried cinnamon and nutmeg and they are awesome additions.

                              I have two toddlers, and I find primal to be so much less work. Now I find feeding my family so stress free and natural.
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