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  • Goat dairy products - are they better on Primal?

    Would goat cheeses be 'more' primal, given that they usually come from small producers and goats are usually grass fed and given few chemical by way of medication (at least here in Oz).
    Odille
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  • #2
    No. But Goat dairy is tolerated by some better than cows.

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    • #3
      Well, I figure that grass fed goat dairy is about as primal as grass fed cow dairy? But, if the goats are all grass fed, and the cows aren't, go goat! I also tend to suspect that many goat breeds are less "domesticated" than cow breeds, since they've never been industrially produced the same way.

      One advantage that goat dairy may have is that it is never homogenized, since the fat stays in solution (though to be fair, I haven't read enough to be certain that homogenized dairy is as evil as some people claim)

      I'm a big fan of goat cheese, but I just don't really like making yogurt out of goat milk - it is a bit too pungent! So, I enjoy dairy from both species
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      • #4
        Robb Wolf from the Paleo Solution says yes, goat is better, esp. if you've got inflammation or metabolic issues. There is science behind why, but being a Zen Grok, I'll have to let a Science Grok explain it. But, yeah, any animal eating grass rather than grain is going to be superior.
        "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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        • #5
          Goat dairy tends to be better because of the casein structure (casein is the protein that people with dairy sensitivities react to). Goat dairy (as well as sheep and certain breeds of cows) contains primarily A2 beta casein. Most dairy cows produce A1 beta casein (esp. Holsteins), which tends to be way more problematic.
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          • #6
            good to know!

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            • #7
              It is good to know, I've never been good with milk and I think I'll get some goat cheese to try.
              Odille
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              following Primal Lifestyle and swimming my way to health

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              • #8
                I'm not doing any dairy at the moment (I'm on Whole30 for Jan.) but when I do add it back in, I'm going to stick to grass-fed butter and a little grass-fed cream (I can get yummy local!) since butter and cream don't contain much casein- they're almost all fat, and if I do have any cheese or yogurt, it'll be goat or sheep's milk.
                I've bought raw goat's milk and I have to say I felt noticeably good when I drank it (I'm SO not a milk drinker!), so there does seem to be a real difference between different dairy products.
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                • #9
                  Plus goat milk has the advantage of being really similar to human milk! I love my goat cream/butter/cheese.
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                  • #10
                    Not exactly a primal issue perhaps, but I'm beginning to think my skin reacts to cow dairy and not goat dairy. I was all-dairy-free since early Nov, which really cleared my skin up. Introduced goat cheese mid December. Everything still OK. In the past week, I've re-introduced pastured, organic butter....and my skin is flaring up. Totally bummed about that.
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                    • #11
                      Ive decided that goat dairy in the UK is a better option than cow dairy (maybe even orgainc) just because the industry is younger and smaller and not as industrialised, producers are already all about goat welfare. And yes it is much more similar to human milk to better in that respect
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lizch View Post
                        Not exactly a primal issue perhaps, but I'm beginning to think my skin reacts to cow dairy and not goat dairy. I was all-dairy-free since early Nov, which really cleared my skin up. Introduced goat cheese mid December. Everything still OK. In the past week, I've re-introduced pastured, organic butter....and my skin is flaring up. Totally bummed about that.
                        me too...and i cant have store dairy it has to be raw. tried to cheapskate it and got the pasteurized kerrygold and i have a peeling roof of mouth and the most NASTY SOUR taste in my mouth, its gross
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                        • #13
                          (former goat farmer here) Although most goats are grassfed, a lot of farmers supplement their does with grain during milking season. I know a lot of you all about the grass-fed, but we nearly lost a few does during freshening if they didn't get enough grain beforehand. & they had plenty of hay to eat throughout the winter, too (goats are seasonal breeders & generally only freshen in the spring). We had a special mix of grain, not medicated, & didn't give them antibiotics unless they got sick (which was rare).

                          Personally, I love products from goat milk, but I can't drink it, especially if its raw. It's um... strong. It DOES make incredible ice cream, though!

                          Just my two cents...
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                          • #14
                            I was intriqued by this thread, so I checked out the goat milk products at WF today. Kefir is the only liquid dairy I have been using. Goat milk kefir was $6.99!

                            I get regular at TJs for less than half of that, so I guess goat kefir is not my destiny with my current budget.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TigerLily View Post
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