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  • #16
    Originally posted by AndreaReina View Post
    C2H5OH hit the nail on the head. People want what's easy and convenient because there's essentially no real (to them, anyway) price to doing it their way. Getting fat? Oh, it's the natural order of things. Maybe when it gets to be so bad that it's actually acutely threatening I can get insurance to pay for lipo or something. Diabetes? I'll just take the insulin, thanks. People want health, but on their terms, which translates to not really wanting health as much as they want a convenient life.

    I'm going home this christmas, and I'm planning to have a talk with both my parents about primal living. It'll be interesting how they respond to it.
    What is so frustrating is that Primal IS easy. But how to get that across.
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    • #17
      Not yet 50and I remember when people could smoke anywhere from a hospital ward to an airplane. What a different world. It took time but it happened w/ tobacco and I have faith CW will go the same way. This elevator is still on the ground floor.
      Wheat is the new tobacco. Spread the word.

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      • #18
        People respond to information about inflammation so I describe my diet as antiinflammatory. Makes it easier to talk about classes of inflammatory foods, like grains, vegetable oils, dairy and nightshades
        Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

        Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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        • #19
          I converted two friends, a couple. We went to brunch and I couldn't shut up about PB and GCBC. We stopped by the Strand and found the PB on discount, and my friend started reading while we walked home. They both went for it totally. They keep inviting me over for pork carnitas. The one who wanted to lose weight has lost some, and the one who wanted to improve health says he no longer has joint pain. They are hooked.

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          • #20
            Change is scary. Most people will not change unless they see a HUGE advantage.

            Having said that, most people are more than happy to let someone else go first. If you can show them your huge advantage, they may just follow.

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            • #21
              I used to give a damn. Now I don't. I work in a bakery and have a great time making things. Won't eat any of them, of course.
              You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
                ever watch that show, "semi-homemade?" she takes canned or boxed foods and dresses them up with real food.
                ugh.
                since when is something made with cream of mushroom soup even remotely homemade?
                Sandra Lee is disgusting and annoying!

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                • #23
                  Think about how many wrong miracles people have been pitched about food and exercise.

                  Just because eating real food and exercising moderately is an obvious miracle doesn't mean that when someone pitches it the BS shield doesn't come up!

                  Talk softly and carry a big stick.




                  (And Primal is easy for some--not for others. I'm certainly better off for giving it a shot, but it ain't easy and it ain't a miracle--not in a world of pizza and eating disorders.)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Balance View Post
                    I noticed that people I talk to will only listen if they have some sort of auto-immune disease they are trying to get rid of or if they are wanting to use primal/paleo to lose weight. But if they don't have any auto immune issues and are relatively fit, then they don't really care to hear it. Most people actually just laugh at me and tell me that my heart is a ticking time bomb.
                    +1
                    " If you truly love nature you will find beauty everywhere"

                    - Vincent Van Gogh




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                    • #25
                      Maybe you could invite them over for movie night and put on "Fat Head" and some snacks to nosh on, like unbreadedhot wings with blue cheese dip. You could also mention that the usual "diet plate" for a much slimmer pre-1980s (and pre-low fat/healthy grains craze) uniformly consisted of a bunless hamburger patty, cottage cheese, a few tomatoes, and diet soda. Tom Naughton's article on the diet plate of yore here: http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/2013/06/25/the-diet-meal-in-1976/

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                      • #26
                        Honestly, if you are giving out unsolicited health advice anything less than a kick in the balls is a win. Because the kick in the crotch is what that kind of behavior calls for.
                        (Especially after four months as the OP is claimed, good grief.)
                        “In God we trust; all others must bring data.” W. Edwards Deming
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                        • #27
                          I don't say anything about being primal either, unless people ask. Just not worth it. I called my journal on this forum 'Quietly Primal' for that reason. I'd love to get my parents on board but the response I got when I merely asked my mother to read some books about the evils of sugar and benefits of good fat really deterred me.
                          What has been a bit frustrating is when people ask for info, so I send them links to MDA and so on, but they pay it absolutely no heed, yet still complain about how hard it is to look and feel good. Gah!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Paleo Goth View Post
                            Maybe you could invite them over for movie night and put on "Fat Head" and some snacks to nosh on, like unbreadedhot wings with blue cheese dip. You could also mention that the usual "diet plate" for a much slimmer pre-1980s (and pre-low fat/healthy grains craze) uniformly consisted of a bunless hamburger patty, cottage cheese, a few tomatoes, and diet soda. Tom Naughton's article on the diet plate of yore here: http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/2013/06/25/the-diet-meal-in-1976/
                            If I had trouble clicking your link (here is working one I hope: Fat Head » The ‘Diet’ Meal in 1976), but that's very cool. In a similar vein, check out this timeline of heart disease: Illustrated History of Heart Disease 1825-2015 | Diet Heart Publishing.

                            People knew that breads/starches were fattening, and then modern science/nutrition told us otherwise.
                            Yes, the real Dirk.

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                            • #29
                              Wow, zombie thread...
                              If you're interested in my (very) occasional updates on how I'm working out and what I'm eating click here.

                              Originally posted by tfarny
                              If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

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                              • #30
                                More bacon & eggs for the rest of us............

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