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  • #76
    Hi,
    I am going to have to trial going nightshade free sometime soon. I've done a whole30 and my shoulder soreness is much better but I still have some joint aches and pains. Staying completely away from gluten and corn is the biggie for me but I would like to get rid of these lingering symptoms.

    I don't know when I'll do it as I have a lot of things to consider- also I think I am sensitive to coconut, want to try going nut free, and am working on a leaky gut and candida protocol. So I thought I'd hang out here for a while and get ideas on how to do it before taking the plunge.

    No tomatoes, no aubergine, no chilli.... seriously I don't know how likfe will be worth living lol!!!
    Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

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    • #77
      I tossed out my dried red peppers, and I am not planting any this year along with tomatoes.
      So I'm with you to see if this helps. I will replace them with more zucchini and squash. So
      instead of battling the tobacco worms this year, I get to put up with squash bugs. Nasty
      pest.

      Good luck!

      Originally posted by Horsewoman View Post
      Hi,
      I am going to have to trial going nightshade free sometime soon. I've done a whole30 and my shoulder soreness is much better but I still have some joint aches and pains. Staying completely away from gluten and corn is the biggie for me but I would like to get rid of these lingering symptoms.

      I don't know when I'll do it as I have a lot of things to consider- also I think I am sensitive to coconut, want to try going nut free, and am working on a leaky gut and candida protocol. So I thought I'd hang out here for a while and get ideas on how to do it before taking the plunge.

      No tomatoes, no aubergine, no chilli.... seriously I don't know how likfe will be worth living lol!!!

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      • #78
        Good luck guys! It can be life changing if they impact you (they totally impact me!)...
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        • #79
          Life without the joint/muscle pain is so much tastier to me than even peppers!! Thanks for this thread. It has been quite interesting and helpful. I have been nightshade free exceot goji berries in one of the only gluten-free snacks at Borders this weekend. That one little snack was abig boo-boo. Anyway, I love being nightshade free. It has been a revelation. That and gluten-free have made great improvements.

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          • #80
            Thanks, inspiring to hear success stories. I am thinking maybe this is more important that going nut free for me, might do it first.
            Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

            Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

            Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

            "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
            Harold Whitman

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            • #81
              How's everyone getting on? I had a nasty joint pain flare up after adding potatoes (and sweet potatoes and white rice) back into my diet a few weeks ago, so I think maybe I need to go nightshade free. Not sure how I'll manage without potatoes or grains as I'm not someone who feels good on LC. And no tomatoes or aubergine? Aaaargh!
              Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

              Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

              Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

              "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
              Harold Whitman

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              • #82
                Hrm. Dunno how I missed this thread back when it was started, but I wanted to share a few things (forgive me if these were already covered - I tried to read all the posts but might still have missed something). My wife isn't necessarily *nightshade sensitive* in the normal sense, but the women in her family share a genetic condition that causes them to develop arthritis early and I've found the more I can cut nightshades from her diet the better she feels (she's a potato addict and a vegetarian so it's hard to eliminate them completely).

                Heat Source - Horseradish and Wasabi are fair ways to spice things up, though it is a different kind of burn than that associated with peppers. Dry mustard powder also works well.

                Paprika - The most useless yet overused spice on the planet, IMO. Forget about it in any recipe that includes it, but be on the lookout when other people are cooking for you.

                Southwest Flavor - From tacos to chili - anything you'd normally use Taco Seasoning (I challenge you to find one without MSG anyway), Chili Powder, Fajita Seasoning, etc - can be replaced with straight Cumin. Adding garlic and/or lime rounds things out nicely. Mustard powder (IMO) is a better heat source than horseradish to add spice to a southwest style dish.

                Fruit Salsa - They tend to be annoyingly sweet - which means they do great on fish and chicken, less great on tacos (though they can work well with fajitas (and when I say Tacos and Fajitas, I am - of course - excluding the tortilla or corn shell). But I've found a fix that works fairly well and it's based around garlic and vinegar to replace the acidity and tartness of the tomatoes.

                My basic fruit salsa is pineapple based but can include any tropical fruits (mango is very popular, though I hate cutting the bastards up both because of the clingy seed in the middle and because the skin has oils that are very similar in nature to poison ivy oil).

                Ingredients
                1 cup fresh diced pineapple (if you are heathen enough to use canned pineapple, ditch the juice - or save it to use in a marinade or something - and rinse the pineapple).
                1/4 cup fresh diced red onion
                2 tbsp chopped spring onion (or 1 tbsp chives or dried green onion)
                1/2 tsp dried cilantro (or parsley if you just can't stand cilantro)
                1 tsp minced garlic
                Juice of 1 lime

                1/4 cup each of at least 2 of the following (if you do more than 4 of the following double the ingredients above)

                Diced Mango
                Diced Papaya
                Diced Kiwi
                Diced Peach
                Diced Plum
                Diced Pear (should be over ripe or roasted so it's really soft).
                Quartered blackberries
                Diced strawberries

                (note: I do not recommend blueberries, grapes, or raspberries for any salsa that is going to end up as part of a southwest style dish)

                For a less sweet version substitute any fairly flavorless vegetable for some of the diced fruit.

                Diced zucchini or yellow squash, diced cucumber, diced jicama

                To make the fruit salsa more southwest friendly add the following

                1/4 tsp sea salt
                1/4 tsp coarse to medium black pepper (you can use fine black pepper, but only use 1/8 of a teaspoon
                1/4 cup apple cider or white vinegar
                1 tbsp minced garlic (in addition to what's called for above)
                1tsp ground cumin (or 1/2 tsp whole cumin seed)

                1/2 to 2 tsp dried mustard powder if you want it hot

                Directions
                This is a raw salsa recipe. Fruit salsas only get sweeter with heat. So you pretty much just mix everything together in a bowl. Southwest cooking is a pretty big thing in my house, and salsa never goes to waste. If you are cooking for just one or two people you can get by on half this recipe easy. But it does freeze well, so if you have leftovers you know you won't use in the next day or two, toss it in a ziplock and throw it in the freezer.

                Guacamole - Not really an issue for Nighshades, just leave out the little bit of tomato some recipes call for, but I always make this with my salsa, so here's the recipe if anyone wants it.

                Ingredients
                2 avocados
                1 tbsp diced onion
                1 tsp minced garlic
                juice from 1/2 lime
                Salt and pepper to taste

                Directions
                Slice avocados in half, pull out the pit, scoop the meat into a bowl and mash with a potato masher or big fork. Stir in remaining ingredients.
                Last edited by brahnamin; 07-04-2011, 07:35 AM.

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                • #83
                  I've been looking for this thread for ages and couldn't find it no matter how I tried to use the "search thingy"! Thanks for starting it.....way back when!
                  lol
                  Life is not a matter of having good cards, but of playing a poor hand well.

                  - Robert Louis Stevenson

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                  • #84
                    I have FMS/CFS/PPS and found that I was one of the few who are nightshade sensitive. I was very surprised to find this through a 6 week abstinence and then a challenge. that was in 1994. For me, the huge change in my joint pain was worth going nightshade free. I eventually came to the point where nightshades disgusted me. I don't remember how long that took but is for sure now!!!


                    PPS=post polio syn
                    Last edited by Violette; 07-04-2011, 09:00 AM. Reason: Clarity
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Horsewoman View Post
                      How's everyone getting on? I had a nasty joint pain flare up after adding potatoes (and sweet potatoes and white rice) back into my diet a few weeks ago, so I think maybe I need to go nightshade free. Not sure how I'll manage without potatoes or grains as I'm not someone who feels good on LC. And no tomatoes or aubergine? Aaaargh!
                      It can be a little rough at first, but it is completely worth it! You can keep the sweet potatoes and rice though, they shouldn't be a problem if it is nightshades. No potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, or peppers though. Including paprika...which seems to be hidden in everything in the US. Not sure if that is the case in the UK.

                      Potatoes (and chile peppers) are one of the worst triggers for an arthritis flare up for me. I have finally developed a pretty good negative association for them. I was at dinner with friends and they ordered hand made truffled french fries. I ate about 5 of them and just couldn't eat any more.....my brain knew it was trouble!

                      Give it try for a while. Be very strict at first. Then when you see what your "nightshade-free" baseline is you can see how much room you have to play. I have to be pretty strict, but for me, it is the difference between 24 hour a day pain, and being almost pain free. No question there!!!
                      Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                      http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by jammies View Post
                        It can be a little rough at first, but it is completely worth it! You can keep the sweet potatoes and rice though, they shouldn't be a problem if it is nightshades. No potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, or peppers though. Including paprika...which seems to be hidden in everything in the US. Not sure if that is the case in the UK.

                        Potatoes (and chile peppers) are one of the worst triggers for an arthritis flare up for me. I have finally developed a pretty good negative association for them. I was at dinner with friends and they ordered hand made truffled french fries. I ate about 5 of them and just couldn't eat any more.....my brain knew it was trouble!

                        Give it try for a while. Be very strict at first. Then when you see what your "nightshade-free" baseline is you can see how much room you have to play. I have to be pretty strict, but for me, it is the difference between 24 hour a day pain, and being almost pain free. No question there!!!
                        Thanks v much. I'm so glad to have others to tak to about this as I'm pretty sure my family and friends think I am nuts to be excluding yet another lot of foods!

                        I'm nightshade free as of today and dairy too, since I know I need to be off casein and I don't want it to mask the results. Fingers crossed!
                        Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

                        Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

                        Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

                        "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
                        Harold Whitman

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                        • #87
                          Nightshades and joint pain is interesting because capsacin cream is often used for joint pain. I will never give up nightshades. A life without tomatoes, peppers and potatoes is a life not worth living. Giving up good Italian bread and pasta is bad enough. This won't do
                          Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                          • #88
                            everyone also has to take into account that you can make your body sensitive to something by worrying about it...you might have a small sensitivity or none at all and you wouldnt realize it but youre thinking so hard that its going to make you feel bad you make it happen! think positive people

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by primalTatoolover View Post
                              everyone also has to take into account that you can make your body sensitive to something by worrying about it...you might have a small sensitivity or none at all and you wouldnt realize it but youre thinking so hard that its going to make you feel bad you make it happen! think positive people
                              I so wish that was true! I never even suspected I would have an issue with potatoes when I reintroduced them, I thought the symptoms that vanished when I went primal were down to going grain free. It was a very unpleasant surprise when the joint pain kicked in.
                              Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

                              Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

                              Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

                              "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
                              Harold Whitman

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                              • #90
                                no nightshades in sweet potatoes..very strange..you have no luck with food we shall create a new class of carbs just for you!
                                Last edited by primalTatoolover; 07-06-2011, 08:05 AM.

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