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    I've been eating primal +/- for about 3 weeks. In terms of food intake, I've been eating lots of vegetables, meats, fish, eggs, a bit of fruit, some full-fat dairy and nuts. My journal isn't up to date, but I have it all recorded elsewhere and could post a refresh. I keep an eye on 7-day averages; lately I've been fairly consistent at 100 g fat, 80 g carbs, 90 g protein.

    I haven't been hungry or really wanted to eat for a few days, since Thursday maybe. I have eaten but mostly it's been about "I should" rather than "I want to." I last ate before 7 pm yesterday, 15 hours ago, and am uninterested in eating. This is a dramatic change for me.

    My daily routine has me walking about 1-2 km/day broken up into numerous segments. Aside from that I haven't been moving much and I haven't started any "lift heavy things." I'll go on a longish walk shortly (40-60 minutes) and the rest of the week to see what happens.

    The collected wisdom here seems to be to wait several months before "IF-ing." For July - October, I lost 55-60 lbs eating VLC (<50 g carbs), VL fat, VL calories (800-ish), so my body should be fairly well adapted to lower carbohydrate intake. I'm thinking I should just wait until I'm hungry to eat. My body knows what to do, right? Any other suggestions? Thanks!
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    I'd follow your body's cues, as long as you continue moving toward your goals in the process and feel good about it.

    It is probably a good time to add a bit more of the exercise stuff into the mix, though...maybe create some hunger through some heavy lifting. Or increased walking.
    Liz.

    Zone diet on and off for several years....worked, but too much focus on exact meal composition
    Primal since July 2010...skinniest I've ever been and the least stressed about food

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    • #3
      I wouldn't worry, I am of the belief that when you are hungry eat and when you aren't, don't. Remember there were times when food was scarce. I go most days 16 hours and the longest was 24 hours IFing and I am only 8 weeks in. I think you need to figure out what is right for your body, if you stop losing then revisit the topic. Someone just posted a great post about IFing let me see if I can find it.
      ~*Lori*~
      my Primal journal : http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...-momofredheads
      my food blog http://iamhungrywhatsfordinner.blogspot.com/

      SW 231 as of 1/1/2012
      CW 192

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      • #4
        Here it is read page 4!! pklopp's post
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...a-minute/page4
        Last edited by momofredheads; 11-21-2010, 11:11 AM. Reason: forgot something
        ~*Lori*~
        my Primal journal : http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...-momofredheads
        my food blog http://iamhungrywhatsfordinner.blogspot.com/

        SW 231 as of 1/1/2012
        CW 192

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        • #5
          Originally posted by svelting View Post
          For July - October, I lost 55-60 lbs eating VLC (<50 g carbs), VL fat, VL calories (800-ish), so my body should be fairly well adapted to lower carbohydrate intake.
          Did you eat this way for the whole duration of July-October without any breaks or refeeds?

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          • #6
            Sounds like you're in that sweet spot. Yeah, I'm not very hungry when I'm in ketosis, either (like right now). I say ride that wave all the way in to the shore. If you're exercising (hopefully you are), you'll likely find that you can lift heavier and go longer and feel great doing it. Congrats!
            "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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            • #7
              There are days when we are hungry and some when we're not, and that's normal. Since you've eaten VLC recently and has raised your carb level, you should have more appetite, but the time frame is just too short for any speculation. At just a few days, this could be a totally normal situation for your body--or it can be signaling that something is wrong. Keep in mind that the absence of appetite is always a medical 'red flag,' so if this persists for a week or more, then I'd get a check up.

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              • #8
                If you were adhering to a very low calorie diet for an extended period, it is very possible that your hunger signals (as well as your metabolism) have become depressed. In that case, you would not want to follow the typical advice of waiting until you are hungry to eat.
                Last edited by theholla; 11-21-2010, 04:46 PM. Reason: typo :P
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by theholla View Post
                  If you were adhering to a very low calorie diet for an extended period, it is very possibly that your hunger signals (as well as your metabolism) have become depressed. In that case, you would not want to follow the typical advice of waiting until you are hungry to eat.
                  Ya, this.

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                  • #10
                    I think the key clue is how the OP is feeling when exercising. If he/she feels like a superhero beast when exercising, that's the ketosis-related appetite suppression I'm talking about. If the OP is feeling weak or lethargic or blah then, yes, something is awry.
                    "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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                    • #11
                      Thanks!

                      Thanks everyone for taking time to reply with your thoughts and suggestions.
                      Originally posted by lizch View Post
                      I'd follow your body's cues, as long as you continue moving toward your goals in the process and feel good about it.

                      It is probably a good time to add a bit more of the exercise stuff into the mix, though...maybe create some hunger through some heavy lifting. Or increased walking.
                      Originally posted by TigerLily View Post
                      Sounds like you're in that sweet spot. Yeah, I'm not very hungry when I'm in ketosis, either (like right now). I say ride that wave all the way in to the shore. If you're exercising (hopefully you are), you'll likely find that you can lift heavier and go longer and feel great doing it. Congrats!
                      liz andTigerLily: A 45-minute walk in near freezing temps stimulated some hunger. I made and enjoyed a colourful lunch -- eggs, kale & squash. It's time to take on the frequently part of "Move Frequently at a Slow Pace." Next month I've got something scheduled to take on the LHT piece.

                      Originally posted by NDF View Post
                      Did you eat this way for the whole duration of July-October without any breaks or refeeds?
                      No breaks or intentional refeeds. I had a couple of "rogue carb" days in September but never went over 125 g carbs.

                      Originally posted by momofredheads View Post
                      Here it is read page 4!! pklopp's post
                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...a-minute/page4
                      I saw this before and skimmed it. Thanks for pointing it out so I could read it! There's lots to consider in that post (#33).

                      Originally posted by theholla View Post
                      If you were adhering to a very low calorie diet for an extended period, it is very possible that your hunger signals (as well as your metabolism) have become depressed. In that case, you would not want to follow the typical advice of waiting until you are hungry to eat.
                      Thanks. I hear what you're saying. Occasionally while on the VLC, I had no hunger but it never lasted longer than a few hours. Having the experience of no real desire to eat for 48 hours is very unusual for me. I'll definitely keep a careful watch on this.

                      So here's the plan:
                      Walk/swim 45 - 60 minutes each day. Monitor hunger/appetite over 7-14 days.
                      If another adjustment is needed, slightly reduce the amount of fat I consume.
                      Then, if no hunger/no appetite recurs, I'll try eating lightly -- vegetables, fats -- for a meal time or two. If I'm not hungry by the third one, then I'll eating a primal meal, lots of veg + meat/fish/fowl + fruit.
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