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    Quick question about soy. There is much contradicting information out there regarding it's health benefits or not so healthy effects. I really want to know the truth. I had been using soy milk quite a bit when my naturopathic doctor prescribed the Blood Type diet to help me lose weight and lower my cholesterol and triglycerides. Then I heard that it causes issues for women because of its estrogen content and men shouldn't have it at all. I also read that soy is best eaten fermented (tempeh) or not at all.

    Well, I've stopped getting soy milk, and now drink Almond milk (which I like even better), but still find myself eating foods with soy in it. I heard it is farmed much like corn is; in extreme excess and found in many products in various forms just like corn. I have grown a liking to the soy nut itself. I have this wonderfully tasty organic trail mix that has soy nuts in it. I haven't read the Primal Blueprint yet, but just bought it today online, so not sure if there is information on soy or not in it, so after running a general search in the forums to find info on soy, I haven't had much luck, so I'm posting my questions about it: What is soy exactly? Is it truly harmful to the body? Should I avoid eating it all together? thanks
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    I'm not going to get into the specifics for you, but I think that white bread is better for you than soy. Take that.

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    • #3
      I call it soy-son. A portmanteau of soy and poison. =P

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      • #4
        Mark Sisson actually has mixed feelings about soy: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/soy-scrutiny/

        So, if you do decide to continue eating soy products, choose fermented, traditionally prepared ones from organic non-GMO soy. Keeping all the evidence in mind, I personally choose to include miso and tamari in my diet.
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        • #5
          thank you for the help! I read the soy scrutiny article and it definitely clarified some of the confusion. I'm glad my trail mix is organic and comes from WI!
          "Achievement begins with belief."

          "Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." -Ralph Waldo Emerson-

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          • #6
            For about 18 months, I had replaced virtually all meats, with the exception of fresh fish, with tofu purchased from a Chinese market. These "cakes" were usually a hard but flexible piece of soy something, and they were great for filling recipes. The packaging was, of course in Mandarin or Cantonese, and the nutrition info almost too small to be read.Bottom line: is this stuff to avoid at all costs?

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            • #7
              Edamame at the sushi restaurant is the only form in which I'll eat soy (except perhaps trace amounts in processed condiments, which I can live with).
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              • #8
                Wouldn't the edameme be a particularly high-lectin form?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by loafingcactus View Post
                  Wouldn't the edameme be a particularly high-lectin form?
                  If I'm eating sushi I'm already in my 20% so I am certainly not stressing about totally unprocessed soybeans. I don't actually know the answer to your question, though.
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                  • #10
                    I eat small amounts of wheat free tamari (organic) and have 1-2 soy mochas a week (also woth organic soy). I think unless you have an intolerance, small amounts of organic soy aren't bad.
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                    • #11
                      So between Robb Wolf and Tim Ferris, I've pretty much chucked soy entirely. As a recovering vegetarian, I've gone a full 180, and have really made an effort to avoid the stuff.

                      My vegan ecoterrorist skinny-fat brother-in-law is coming over for thanksgiving, and i really wanted to give him an earful about the many dangers of soy.

                      So I went to the net for some research, and.... I've come up pretty empty.

                      How is there nothing out there? There's that one Weston Price thing. That's, pretty much it, unless I'm missing stuff.

                      Even Sisson seems conflicted about soy.

                      Tim Ferris' very strong opinions on the issue seem unsupported, and vegans basically live off the stuff.

                      Sure, lechtins. But those things go away mostly if cooked well.

                      So seriously.

                      What's so bad about soy, and why do we think so????

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                      • #12
                        Most soy is GMO which means it contains synthetic DNA which will/can cause autoimmune-like symptoms. Eat at your own risk.

                        Soybean oil should be an obvious no-no.
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                        • #13
                          Phytoestrogens are bad for men, women, and especially children.

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                          • #14
                            Read this book: Amazon.com: The Whole Soy Story: The Dark Side of America's Favorite Health Food (9780967089751): Kaayla T. Daniel: Books

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                            • #15
                              I avoid soy~

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