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    I've been doing pretty well following the Paleo lifestyle. I would say my food is about 90% paleo now. The other night I had marinated beef ribs and the following heartburn was terrible. I did some research on the web and it said persons suffering heartburn should not eat fatty meat, preferably no meat at all. Thoughts?

  • #2
    Highly doubtful - I've never even heard that fat or meat can cause heartburn. What did you marinate the beef in?

    I haven't dealt with heartburn in the least since going Primal, so it's tough to remember what caused it for me. As I recall it was fried foods and citrus.

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    • #3
      To my knowledge red meat eating is one of the major causes of heartburn. In fact I have never read an article which promotes the eating of red meat when one has heeartburn, acid reglux, GERD etc
      The ribs were already cooked and marinated. Probably a standard mardinade like
      •1/4 cup lemon juice
      •1/4 cup white vinegar
      •1/4 cup olive oil
      •3 tablespoons honey
      •4 cloves garlic crushed
      •1 teaspoon cayenne
      •1 teaspoon ground black pepper

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      • #4
        I never get heartburn from red meat. I did, however, get heartburn when I thought it would be cute to power down whipping cream and coconut oil. I wasn't even a dairy drinker previously and thought it would be interesting to see what it did to me. haha

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        • #5
          Commercially prepared probably also contained some wheat, soy and MSG.

          How late did you eat it? Or I should ask how soon before going to bed, that is often a trigger for heartburn, eating too soon before getting vertical.

          I agree that most things for heartburn and GERD say don't eat red meat, but they also don't tell you to stop eating grains. The majority of people with those issues never get better and end up on higher and higher doses of meds. I would not believe any CW site that tells you what to eat to prevent heartburn.
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          • #6
            What NutMeg said. The same people who tell you red meat causes heart burn are probably the same who believe red meat causes colon cancer and staurated fat makes you fat.
            A steak a day keeps the doctor away

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            • #7
              Some digestive enzyme will help take care of heartburn. Just need a little more acid in your stomach to digest the food a bit more quickly.

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              • #8
                I've recommended this in a few other threads, but look into getting DGL. It's absolutely amazing for heartburn (and any sort of digestive upset, for that matter). Also, try eating or drinking some sort of fermented food with your red meat. Kombucha works wonders for me.

                As others have said, be sure to not eat too soon before bed. In addition to this, chew your food thoroughly. Eat slowly. Pace yourself between different types of food (if you're moving from meat to fruit, for example, give it a minute). Don't drink water or juice while you eat.

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                • #9
                  The marinade probably contained MSG, wheat, soybean oil, and goodness knows what else. Because you've been paleo for quite some time, when you eat any of these ingredients you're going to get a worse reaction than you did before. Take it from someone who suffers bad heartburn when I eat gluten or MSG. The thing about fatty meat causing heartburn is absolute shitty nonsense, like the rest of CW.

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                  • #10
                    I would suspect the Cayenne pepper, lemon juice or some of the "hidden" ingredients others have posted. Just searching online really quick I rarely see CW sites say meat causes heartburn.

                    Haha, some sites list
                    - "Fatty foods, like pizza"
                    - "Meat - chicken wings"
                    - High fat butter Cookies
                    - Vegetable: French fries!

                    Oh CW... you're so pervasive.
                    Last edited by barryman9000; 11-14-2010, 08:41 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Maybe I just had too much. I've been doing some searching on the web and meat is ranked as the hardest food for your body to digest. Makes sense to only have it in small quantities. I''ve followed Phil Maffetone for years, his food recommendations are very similar to paleo with the exception of small portions of meat. I've read quite a few posts on this site about eating endless bacon piles but I can't see how that could be good for anyone, way out of balance in my books

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by shoreline View Post
                        Maybe I just had too much. I've been doing some searching on the web and meat is ranked as the hardest food for your body to digest. Makes sense to only have it in small quantities. I''ve followed Phil Maffetone for years, his food recommendations are very similar to paleo with the exception of small portions of meat. I've read quite a few posts on this site about eating endless bacon piles but I can't see how that could be good for anyone, way out of balance in my books
                        The wording in your first sentence is the result of classic CW - "Meat is... the hardest to digest." That's a comparative and only means that other foods are digested faster... how does that make it unhealthy in portions that aren't "small quantities?" Think of it this way - your body processes alcohol the fastest, because it must - it's toxic, so your body processes it first. Does that mean it's the healthiest in large quantities?

                        Just food for thought.

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                        • #13
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                          Starting Weight/BMI: 184/29.7
                          Current Weight/BMI: 130 /21.0
                          Ultimate Goal: 125/18

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                          • #14
                            I too get heartburn (usually accompanied with reflux, nausea, and vomiting!) from fatty meat, but only if I eat it too late at night and don't accompany it with plenty of veggies or some starch. It's definitely just from the meat, because I almost never eat mine with any sort of sauce, marinade, etc. These days I try not to eat too late at night, and if I do I always accompany my protein and fat with some carbs.

                            I also get heartburn if I eat more than a serving of sweet potato (or sweet potato starch noodles, which I found out as a vegetarian). Heartburn triggers can be quite different for everyone I think. I got heartburn a LOT when I started with paleo, and it wasn't a problem for me when I ate grains non-stop. However I had many other problems at that time that primal has cured, and I figured out how to tweak things so I don't get heartburn anymore.
                            Last edited by animalcule; 11-14-2010, 10:30 AM.

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