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    I posted a reply to a post about fasting glucose levels, but wanted everyone's opinion before I go to my doctor. I started back eating primal last week and have lost 7lbs in 5 days. After I started I bought a blood glucose meter to check my blood sugar after eating to find what foods would send my level above 100 and try to elimate them. However, I took a fasting level and it's been very high in the mornings. The highest was yesterday at 184, but has been averaging in the 130's. Now, later in the day after eating it has been in the upper 80's to low 90's. Should I go to my doctor with the results? Even if I am diagnosed with diabetes isn't it likely that after loosing a lot of fat I wont be anymore? Is it worth it?

    I am going for blood test tomorrow for a lipid panel. Maybe I'll wait until the results are in from the lab and talk to my PCM then?

    Oh, nothing to do with this, but when I first went primal I got a severe headache a day after. I took this as normal. This last time going primal I didn't have a headache until day 5, (yesterday) and it was awful. I'm still feeling it today. Think it's a delayed headache from starting primal?

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    If you ever think you might need to see a doctor, then go see a doctor. Better safe than sorry.

    It seems there's a period of adjustment for almost everyone. Mine lasted 6 weeks, but I'll never go back.

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    • #3
      You provide limited information but it sounds like you many be pre diabetic/metabolic syndrome. Check out this thorough video.
      Primal/Paleo is not for everyone, it's for those who have committed to understand.
      READ THE BOOK! ...as Robb Wolf says: "Trying to convince people to save their own ass will burn you out."

      Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for -- the pure enjoyment of food. Anthony Bourdain

      and yes, calories DO count my little piggies

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      • #4
        At a minimum read Dr Bernsteins book before entrusting yourself to conventional medicine:
        http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Bernsteins-.../dp/0316093440

        I sent it to a friend in Brazil who has turned his diabtetes around dramatically when coventional diabetes treatment was destroying his health. His dovtor is thrilled.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by savage_dieter View Post
          I posted a reply to a post about fasting glucose levels, but wanted everyone's opinion before I go to my doctor. I started back eating primal last week and have lost 7lbs in 5 days. After I started I bought a blood glucose meter to check my blood sugar after eating to find what foods would send my level above 100 and try to elimate them. However, I took a fasting level and it's been very high in the mornings. The highest was yesterday at 184, but has been averaging in the 130's. Now, later in the day after eating it has been in the upper 80's to low 90's. Should I go to my doctor with the results? Even if I am diagnosed with diabetes isn't it likely that after loosing a lot of fat I wont be anymore? Is it worth it?

          I am going for blood test tomorrow for a lipid panel. Maybe I'll wait until the results are in from the lab and talk to my PCM then?

          Oh, nothing to do with this, but when I first went primal I got a severe headache a day after. I took this as normal. This last time going primal I didn't have a headache until day 5, (yesterday) and it was awful. I'm still feeling it today. Think it's a delayed headache from starting primal?
          1) How much do you weigh?
          2) Your age?
          3) Are you on a 100% Primal Diet?

          I assume you are obese because you lost 7 lbs in just 5 days.

          Your glucose meter suggests you are Pre-Diabetic, and you can fix that with diet. I suggest holding off seeing a doctor until your weight is normal. It will clear up by itself, so will your high blood pressure that follows obesity. See this link:
          http://www.mercola.com/article/diabetes/index.htm

          PS) A doctor is just going to recommend expensive drugs that will make you WORSE. IMO, give your diet & exercise your best shot before going to a doctor.

          Best to you,
          Grizz
          Last edited by Grizz; 10-20-2010, 11:11 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Grizz View Post
            1) How much do you weigh?
            2) Your age?
            3) Are you on a 100% Primal Diet?

            I assume you are obese because you lost 7 lbs in just 5 days.

            Your glucose meter suggests you are Pre-Diabetic, and you can fix that with diet. I suggest holding off seeing a doctor until your weight is normal. It will clear up by itself, so will your high blood pressure that follows obesity. See this link:
            http://www.mercola.com/article/diabetes/index.htm



            I am 6'3" weigh 302 as of this morning... When I first went primal I was 343 and dropped to 290. Gained about 20lbs on the move to Alaska, (fast food and soda) I'm eating pretty primal. No sugar, no wheat, but have limited dairy, i.e. cheese. I cut out Milk because I drink milk like soda.

            I've had no other signs or symptoms of diabetes that I know about. I'm familiar with treating diabetics from working in EMS and the hospital as an EMT. My last A1C test was normal. I'll get my labs drawn tomorrow and will post them when I get the results, then I'll post them again in three months, because I'm sure the doc is going to want me to have them done again.

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            • #7
              A fasting glucose of 184 is high enough to qualify you as a diabetic - though if that was one abnormal reading and everything else was much lower, it may just have been a goofy reading. You should go to the doctor.

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              • #8
                You can have normal A1C testing, with your weight and extremely high fasting glucose, you most likely have constant elevated insulin levels...you are pre diabetic/metabolic syndrome...go to the link I posted above, you need to understand the process.
                Primal/Paleo is not for everyone, it's for those who have committed to understand.
                READ THE BOOK! ...as Robb Wolf says: "Trying to convince people to save their own ass will burn you out."

                Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for -- the pure enjoyment of food. Anthony Bourdain

                and yes, calories DO count my little piggies

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                • #9
                  It is really your choice. You know what they are going to do/say, which is start treating you for diabetes without giving diet/exercise a try. If you want to do diet/exercise, it is probably best to wait until after you try it for a while to go to the doctor.
                  Meghan

                  My MDA journal

                  Primal Ponderings- my blog- finally added some food pron :P

                  And best of all my Body Fat Makeover!!

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                  • #10
                    Savage:

                    Alaska is a great place to be primal. Lots of exercise and recreation opportunities (OK, not a lot of sun opportunities this time of year). LOTS of great fish available, especially salmon. costco is a cost-effective source. and as you get to know the place and people, lots of opportunities for eating wild meat.

                    One Delta Ten Tango, over and out

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                    • #11
                      Savage:

                      I am the one who started the other thread and believe me, I understand your concern. Did you read some of the replies following yours? It seems there might be a number of reasons for a fasting BG that is higher than post-meal, one of them being significant weight loss. Or more protein than is perhaps optimal, or even just eating low carb.

                      That being said, if you are concerned, talk to your doctor. But you may want to wait for your lab test results. Glucose meters aren't always super accurate. It's probably worth sharing the results of your own testing as you discuss your lab tests. I would ask them to test your hbA1c.

                      I plan to keep eating primal. I feel too good and so many of my other "issues" are resolving themselves that I can't help but think the elevated fasting BG is just a bump in the road. Please let us know how your lab tests turn out and what the doctor says (if you go).
                      My primal journal

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                      • #12
                        If it were me, I would be get VERY committed to changing my lifestyle--eating, exercise, weight--so I could hold off getting this issue documented in my medical record. It can have a negative impact on health insurance, down the road.

                        I would set a time limit, commit to change, educate myself, test BGL at home, eliminate offending foods, etc. If after the time limit, with excellent compliance, I was still experiencing fasting BGL>125 or random BGL >200 then medical attention would be required.

                        Griff and TawFunGuy have had great success in lowering their diabetic BGLs. You might want to pick their brains.

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                        • #13
                          If you want to avoid a diabetes diagnosis, check out Dr. Richard Bernstein's website and/or book (his website gives excerpts from his book that I found sufficient). He gives the science behind his dietary recommendations, and if you follow his advice, you should be able to control your blood sugar.

                          I have diabetes in my family (siblings with type2), and my endo believes that the way I eat is protecting me from diabetes, despite fairly high fasting numbers (90s) considering that I eat no grains, dairy, or artificial sweeteners.

                          One thing Bernstein advises that I think is critical is to have no more than 10-12g carbs per meal--to lessen the insulin response and keep BG stable.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by savage_dieter View Post
                            I am 6'3" weigh 302 as of this morning... When I first went primal I was 343 and dropped to 290. Gained about 20lbs on the move to Alaska, (fast food and soda) I'm eating pretty primal. No sugar, no wheat, but have limited dairy, i.e. cheese. I cut out Milk because I drink milk like soda.

                            I've had no other signs or symptoms of diabetes that I know about. I'm familiar with treating diabetics from working in EMS and the hospital as an EMT. My last A1C test was normal. I'll get my labs drawn tomorrow and will post them when I get the results, then I'll post them again in three months, because I'm sure the doc is going to want me to have them done again.

                            There you have your answer. 6'3" & weigh 302 lbs? Diabetes follows obesity like night follows days. You either get serious about losing weight or else you go on diabetes drugs, heart disease drugs, the whole 9 yards of never ending medical problems. Endless visits to a doctor. Your obesity will also cause cancers, hormonal problems giving you prostitus, erectile dysfunction, Man Boobs, knee & joint problems. The food you are consuming is killing you slowly. The choice is yours to make. You must lose 100 lbs so get going on that mission pronto, my friend. I want to see you losing a MINIMUM of 2 lbs a week. 10,000 steps per day. Park at the back of the parking lot before walking to the store and more. You know what you have to do. Dr. Grizz ORDERS.
                            Please take photos of yourself now, during, and after you lose your 100 lbs. Then post them here on Success Stories. Keep us informed.

                            Also, please read THIS wakeup call:
                            http://www.annecollins.com/obesity/risks-of-obesity.htm
                            http://www.briansekula.com/blog/2010...suck-as-a-man/

                            Best to you,
                            Grizz
                            Last edited by Grizz; 10-21-2010, 02:59 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by OneDeltaTenTango View Post
                              One Delta Ten Tango, over and out
                              Ha!

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