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  • I'm feeling down..

    I suppose I just need to tell someone{s} who will understand......everybody else seems to not be bothered . Since the last time I posted which was back almost 2 months ago I have gone really downhill. I am feeling quite stressed and when I don;t eat well it adds to my stress and actually makes me feel quite depressed I read this forum everyday and believe this way of eating is for me. But I can;t seem to start again. Every morning I make my good breakfast but by the end of the day I have eaten crisps,chocolate, bread,bread, bread!I have put on about about 5 kg in these 2 months and look and feel awful.I am now 66.7 kg but not sure exactly of my body fat.Why oh why can.t I just do whats good for me. I hate my bloating, tiredness, moodiness,constant eating ,no energy, fluid retention. I want to have a nice body and wear nice clothes.
    When I don't eat wheat the weight melts off so I know its a big no no. I f I know why don't I do what I am supposed to do arrgggggg....

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    Gotta just shut the brain off. Shut it off.

    I smoke pot, not going to try to argue for or against it, but I couldn't ever manage my hunger/munchies whilst high. Only lately have I been successful in NOT eating. It's damn tough, but I just tell myself "NO!" and continue doing whatever I'm doing (usually exercise, for some reason I just have so much energy when I'm high)

    If I do give in, I keep it very strict primal, but trying to get used to just not ingesting any food when I smoke.

    I'm assuming your urges are as strong as mine is when I'm not sober. Sober I have no cravings at all, despite the fact that before I started being a "strict primal stoner" I would consume crisps/garbage at night. It somehow didn't seem to affect my cravings (thankfully) but I couldn't continue being on that regret train. Eat right all the time, leave that bread shit be a tiny part of your week, maybe a once a week indulgence as it is for me when I have breakfast with my family on Sundays.

    I hope I helped some.
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    • #3
      I used to have the same problem as you do. There were several things that helped, over time - like re-reading Mark's book, and reminding myself that I didn't want to have a limb amputated when I got older... but really, the things that made the most difference have been a) making sure I'm never short of healthy primal food to eat when I'm hungry, so I'm never 'caught short' - even if I get a mad craving I'll just silence it with a few pork scratchings or whatever - and b) having Wifey Fist on board. Both made a big difference, the latter immediately, and the former has over time resulted in me forming primal eating habits instead of unhealthy ones, so now I don't feel like I'm always 'at risk' if I'm hungry and there are crappy foods around.
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      • #4
        Also, I'm assuming you haven't primalized your home. Donate or throw away everything you know you shouldn't be eating. I'm going to assume you live with non-primals and this is why this temptation is all around you. Be STRONGER. Strong isn't cutting it.
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        • #5
          Why not try making lots of Primal versions of your favourite snacks? You could make coconut bread or some Primal muffins and keep them in the freezer. keep some very dark chocolate around, try making some vegetable crisps (M&S sell sweet potato, parsnip and beetroot crisps). If you're really craving the bad stuff I'd recommend taking caprylic acid extract capsules (kills cravings stone dead) and some good quality, strong probiotics. Just make sure you're always well stocked up with Primal food. *hug*

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          • #6
            I don't mean to sound harsh - but do what I do - JUST DON'T BUY IT!! I think this is another very good argument for shopping for food online - if you can't smell that yummy fresh baked bread/cookies/cake smell, then you won't be tempted to impulse buy. Did you know that very serious research goes into food and shopping psychology - stores employ psychologists to help them maximise our spend. The smell you smell at the bakery counter may not even be real - it could just be Eau de Baguette - we buy fresh produce like that with our noses first, then our eyes and then, to tempt us even more, they have tasting tables (at least they do over here - and even more so now it's coming up to holiday season). There was a fascinating Horizon programme on this very topic last year and I was amazed at how underhand, sneaky and downright devious stores could be!

            I have honestly found that my cravings dissipated completely when I started buying online and now I find that, the times I do have to go into a store in town, I can waltz straight past the bakery and deli counters ((I've even tested myself by standing right over the fresh bread and cakes in M&S - not caved in once - seems that online shopping has 'cured' me!)

            Could you attempt an experiment for 1 month? Write a strict list of the Primal foods you need to buy and then order them online. Do it for a month or so and then see if you're tempted by the grocery store's bakery dept!

            Of course, if you have kids, this might not be practical (but then this is a golden opportunity to teach them about healthy eating - Primal-style!)

            Just a thought...
            La tristesse durera toujours...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by StoneAgeQueen View Post
              Why not try making lots of Primal versions of your favourite snacks? You could make coconut bread or some Primal muffins and keep them in the freezer. keep some very dark chocolate around, try making some vegetable crisps (M&S sell sweet potato, parsnip and beetroot crisps). If you're really craving the bad stuff I'd recommend taking caprylic acid extract capsules (kills cravings stone dead) and some good quality, strong probiotics. Just make sure you're always well stocked up with Primal food. *hug*
              +1 - she's right. Chromium's a good one too. I used to take a NOW supplement called Candida Clear (2 caps in the morning before brekkie) and the main 2 constituents were caprylic acid and chromium.
              La tristesse durera toujours...

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              • #8
                I love my primal foods and I think that makes being primal a lot more easy. My advice would be to find primal things that draw you more than bread. I left a loaf of bread in my fridge that I bought right before I went primal. It's been in there since January, but doesn't appear to be moldy or anything but I really wouldn't want it anyway. Find some primal foods that really give you something to look forward to.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Primal Fist View Post
                  I used to have the same problem as you do. There were several things that helped, over time - like re-reading Mark's book, and reminding myself that I didn't want to have a limb amputated when I got older... but really, the things that made the most difference have been a) making sure I'm never short of healthy primal food to eat when I'm hungry, so I'm never 'caught short' - even if I get a mad craving I'll just silence it with a few pork scratchings or whatever - and b) having Wifey Fist on board. Both made a big difference, the latter immediately, and the former has over time resulted in me forming primal eating habits instead of unhealthy ones, so now I don't feel like I'm always 'at risk' if I'm hungry and there are crappy foods around.
                  Y'know I think this is why I've become so addicted to Total - it does satisfy that need. 125g Total/5g cacao powder/0.5 teaspoon cinnamon and some flavoured liquid stevia and I'm on a high - literally!
                  La tristesse durera toujours...

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                  • #10
                    Hi Honeybee,
                    For me, getting away from the desire to EAT when I am "down" has been a huge bonus to going primal. Even better, I am much happier in general. I think that the trick was to ditch ALL of the sugar and stuff for a while. This was hellish for about 5 days. I was drooling watching my SO eat a scone or some rice pudding. One morning, though, I woke up and just didn't want that shit any more. I suspect if you can be tough with yourself for a week it will get A LOT easier after that. Write down everything you eat, try to stay away from temptation, tell everyone around you what you are doing.

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                    • #11
                      I feel your pain and just came back to eating primal after several months of eating garbage. I had the same feelings as you and really started to get bummed when my wife, who continued to eat primal was having success. How sick is that? I'm addicted to sugar. I don't eat it at all now, and I belong to Over Eaters Anonymous. I email, or call my sponsor every morning to commit to abstinence from flour and sugar. You can find more information at OA.org. You can find local meetings, or they have online meetings as well as telephone meetings. It was good for me to realize that there are people out there struggling with the same things I do. If you choose to go to a meeting, you don't have to speak, ever if you don't want to. Sometimes it's good to just listen.

                      Good luck.

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                      • #12
                        thankyou for all your advise, i do love all the primal foods and still eat loads of veg,fat etc..even when not eating well , i suppose i am a comfort eater ,i know I can do it as i cut out sugar and wheat for almost 4 months before,and i do remember the cravings diminshing. Its just getting past the first 2 weeks i suppose. My dh is eating primal ,been doing it for 1 month and doing well -kids are another story, I buy the crisps and bread etc {tut, tut} for them and then i eat them too. But I will start again tomorrow-fridge is full of good yummy food.....i will perservere because I want to feel as good as most of you all are.Tomorrow i begin.....
                        thanx xxx

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                        • #13
                          Here's what I did:

                          I gave up diet soda then sugar and then the grains and other stuff (except dairy). Heck if i had to do it over again. I might have broken it into smaller steps. I cleaned out my pantry of most of things I couldn't eat. What I couldn't eat but the family could, I put in it's own special cabinet that I don't touch. If I buy them something non-primal, I try to buy the things I wouldn't want to eat anyway. They have ice cream but only in flavors I don't care for, etc. I switched them to sourdough bread, gluten-free cereals, waffles, and pastas and nothing with food colorings or HFCS.

                          Then I act "as if" I am a diabetic celiac w/soy and corn sensistivities. I pretend to myself that it's about life and death. I also plan my days to avoid trigger situations. Due to business and volunteer work, I eat out quite a bit. I look at menus in advance and plan what I want to eat. Then I think about it so that when I get there, I'm craving it. When we went to state fair, I opted not to have the attitude that the state fair is a special occasion. I decided that if I am going to have sugar, it will be for something really spectacular like my Aunt's homemade poundcake at Thanksgiving not some mediocre candyapple or deep-fried candybar. When everyone else had their hoagies, I had mine without bun. When they got the sugared almonds, I ate my plain almonds that I brought in my purse. When everyone else had their fair sweet treat, I had my dark chocolate.

                          I also journal when I want to eat. I write down what I am feeling. I noticed that I would eat out boredom, so created things to do. I would eat because food was in sight (such as leaving leftovers out when DH is late) so I put it up (he can get it out himself). I eat when I am stressed or upset. So now, I tell myself, I will walk around our subdivision (1 mile loop) first and then eat. Getting out in some sunshine and walking (and praying/mentally sorting things out) usually reduces the stress so that I don't need to eat when I get back.

                          I find that I rely a lot on religious activities such as prayer, using my Bible Study group for support, etc. I don't know your religious views but I'm sure there are similar things like visualization techniques, buddy system, journaling, etc to work through some issues.
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                          • #14
                            I have exactly the same problem, but I am finding that with each day that I try, it does get a little easier. I am now mostly primal (I am primal 4-5 out of 7 days I would say) and I am working on getting to being primal 7 days a week. I have tried to go cold turkey with all the crap, but when I fail, I feel so much worse about myself that I eat more crap and the cycle is vicious.

                            Maybe you too have to allow yourself some room to breathe and to make mistakes. The moment the negative internal dialogue gets turned off, I do better and it's easier to control my desire to eat carbs.

                            Hugs!

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                            • #15
                              I don't have children myself, but when I have to have food around for other people (my husband, house guests, etc) I just make it totally off-limits for myself. I consider it someone else's food. Sure, I've got bread and tortillas in the house - but they're my husband's, they belong to him, and if I eat them I'm stealing his food away from him! (Even though I bought them and he doesn't even remember they're there most of the time.) See?

                              I can't seem to stop overeating or comfort-eating, so I can totally relate to feeling really down on yourself. I've been primal about 80% of the time for something like 8 months now and haven't lost a darn pound. I'm incredibly frustrated most of the time, but I keep doing things that I KNOW are sabotaging my efforts. Sometimes I end up just sobbing because I feel like such a failure. So, no, you're not alone.

                              Although now when I overeat it's with healthier foods. I don't want to encourage eating for reasons other than true hunger, but just cutting out the grains and sugars will make a big difference in your health. If I eat 4 ounces of grass-fed butter straight from the package or half the jar of almond butter or 4 servings of pork rinds because I'm lonely or frustrated at work, it's certainly not going to help me lose weight, but it's also not going to make me bloated or give me cravings and a sugar-crash like if I eat an equivalent amount of bread or cookies. It makes it easier to rebound and get back on track. (Until the next slip-up... sigh.)
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