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    Just as a heads up, this is a post about gastrointestinal issues. It might be a little gross.

    Lately, I've been having a new stomach issue. It is mainly pain, cramping, bloating, and gassiness, often accompanied by fatigue and constipation. I was diagnosed with IBS in the past, though it has always manifested itself completely differently (nausea and the runs). I had a recent flareup of the IBS over the summer, which was what led me to try giving up grains in the first place.

    I experienced the new issue around noon today after eating a large organic granny smith apple with almond-flax butter for breakfast. My first guess is fructose malabsorption, but have read that nuts can be problematic for some people too. I do eat cultured dairy products, but haven't had any since yesterday at 11 am or so. I also consume a tiny amount of gluten from soy sauce every few days.

    So, I have a few questions that I'm hoping some of you can help me answer:
    1. Does that sound like a food intolerance?
    2. If it is a food intolerance, is it more likely to be fructose, nuts, or something else entirely?
    3. Do I need to try cutting out all dairy too? I'd really rather not, since I can't really eat poultry or red meat and will be cutting out nuts.
    4. What is the best strategy for convincing a doctor to test me for fructose malabsorption?
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  • #2
    have you had any kind of anxiety or stress issues? i know my ibs always flares up when im nervous or really anxious about something.

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    • #3
      It sounds like food intolerance. What else was in your nut butter besides nuts? Check the ingredients.
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      • #4
        Probably not stress - I haven't had any more stressed than normal lately

        The nut butter contains dry-roasted almonds, golden roasted flax seeds, and sea salt. Good stuff.

        I wound up eating a cup or so of kimchi last night, which helped the pain some, but I am still uncomfortably bloated and gassy. Yuck. Plus, I apparently can't get a doctor's appointment until December.
        Last edited by theholla; 10-19-2010, 07:23 AM. Reason: to explain why I can't just go see a doctor :(
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        • #5
          For me, apples alone, or almond butter alone would both upset my stomach. I do not do well digesting fructose or too many nuts. I am better now in that I can eat a handful of nuts no problem, but too much nut butter and I am back to feeling bloated again. Fruit wise, I can do a small amount of berries and sometimes be okay, but apples or citrus just does not settle well.

          Next time you eat either one, do it 100% by itself and see what your reaction is. Only way to be sure.
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          • #6
            I would think that it is food allergies and low gut flora.
            You need to add pro and prebiotics to your supplements.
            You probably want to get rid of wheat completely from your diet, and try to avoid other grains as well. White Rice might be the only one you are able to handle.
            Soy is not good for you.
            Avoid insoluble fiber, it irritates the gut lining, in absence of sufficient gut bacteria.

            Kefir would be good and will increase the gut bacteria, preferably kefir made from heavy cream, as you want to reduce lactose content, or just let it get very sour.
            You would want to reduce dairy and take a lactase enzyme when you do eat it. Try to avoid heavy sources of lactose, like milk and store yogurt. If you want to eat yogurt find some highly sour fermented yogurt, as they will have less lactose.
            Cheese should be OK, but remember the enzymes.

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            • #7
              Nuts would be the most likely culprit. I would definitely replace the soy sauce with wheat free tamari.

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              • #8
                What *kind* of apple?

                I'd suspect the nut butter first, but I find that normal supermarket (i.e. sweet) apples unsettle my stomach. Nothing major, just a minor grumble. However, the sour apples from an old tree on the farm don't cause problems - leading me to guess fructose?? Good job I like sharp tastes!!

                Have you had the nuts in different contexts with / without problems? What about flax seeds? Did you eat or drink anything else unusual that day?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by StoneAgeQueen View Post
                  Nuts would be the most likely culprit. I would definitely replace the soy sauce with wheat free tamari.
                  Are nuts a more common intolerance than fructose?

                  I'm currently using a tamari which has comparatively very little wheat, but does still contain a small amount. I haven't been able to find the wheat-free stuff locally, so I may just have to order it online once this bottle is gone...

                  Do y'all see the soy in traditionally fermented soy sauce as a potential problem? MDA seems to be kind of agnostic on it, recommending Bragg's liquid aminos instead, but also including light soy sauce in a wide variety of recipes.
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                  • #10
                    I'm not sure, both are problematic. You can easily buy Tamari online. I would definitely cut the dairy out and see if that helps also. I have food intolerances, and if I eat something I shouldn't, it sometimes takes 24 hours for me to feel the effects.

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                    • #11
                      Maybe it was too much apple for one eating? Flax might be the problem too. I use the Bragg's Liquid Aminos in the small spray bottle and spritz my food after it's cooked for that soy sauce flavor.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by NorthernMonkeyGirl View Post
                        What *kind* of apple?

                        I'd suspect the nut butter first, but I find that normal supermarket (i.e. sweet) apples unsettle my stomach. Nothing major, just a minor grumble. However, the sour apples from an old tree on the farm don't cause problems - leading me to guess fructose?? Good job I like sharp tastes!!

                        Have you had the nuts in different contexts with / without problems? What about flax seeds? Did you eat or drink anything else unusual that day?
                        It was a farm-market granny smith, locally grown and organic. It was fairly similar in flavor to a supermarket granny smith, so fairly tart, but definitely not "sour."

                        I eat nuts daily, and had previously been powering though this jar of almond-flax butter with no problem. But, then again, I usually eat fruit daily as well. The biggest difference I can think of is that I typically have them as a snack in the afternoon rather than on an empty stomach for breakfast (I had overslept and just grabbed whatever was handy on my way out the door!)

                        Is low gut flora still a possibility even though I eat plenty of kimchi and homemade Greek yogurt?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mizski View Post
                          Maybe it was too much apple for one eating? Flax might be the problem too. I use the Bragg's Liquid Aminos in the small spray bottle and spritz my food after it's cooked for that soy sauce flavor.
                          It was definitely bigger than the average apple - I usually just eat half on the ones that size!

                          Is there a reason why Bragg's Liquid Aminos is considered preferable to wheat-free tamari, other than sodium content? It is also derived from soybeans, but it hasn't been fermented.
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                          • #14
                            This is a situation I've experienced hundreds of times in the last 6 years or so. What I do now is ignore the first occurrence, ignore the second one, and on the third, crosscheck my food diary to see what I ate all 3 times. It's the only system that I have found to solve this sort of problem without undue worry and obsessive thinking about what the hell's going on. It also helps avoid cutting out things unecessarily. That said, I would go for the gluten free tamari rather than the soy sauce. I mean, gluten's just plain nasty
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by racingsnake View Post
                              This is a situation I've experienced hundreds of times in the last 6 years or so. What I do now is ignore the first occurrence, ignore the second one, and on the third, crosscheck my food diary to see what I ate all 3 times. It's the only system that I have found to solve this sort of problem without undue worry and obsessive thinking about what the hell's going on. It also helps avoid cutting out things unecessarily. That said, I would go for the gluten free tamari rather than the soy sauce. I mean, gluten's just plain nasty
                              Haha - I'm on my fourth occurrence! Thanks for the suggestion...unfortunately, I'm having a tough time teasing out any patterns (maybe because I eat too many different foods in a day?) and suspect an elimination diet could be necessary :/

                              I'll definitely switch from low-wheat to wheat-free tamari, though I'll probably wait until this bottle is out. Something in me hates throwing out food, and I've already had to trash quite a bit of grain
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