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  • Ack...Vegetarian needs help

    I know, I know.....

    But I just can't do it. I've tried. Chicken, fish, beef, lamb.....it all tastes terrible to me. Except bacon and pepperoni. I've been a vegetarian most of my life, simply because I can't stand the taste/texture of meat/poultry/fish

    So what do I do?

    Tofu is low carb, so that seems better than beans. But beans are less processed than tofu. Eggs are okay, but not all day every day....

    Any helpful advice...please (I'm also needing to lose 40lbs.)

    Cheers!

  • #2
    Try eating the meat seasoned, or marinated, or in heavy vegetable soups. Dont eat tofu, if you like your soy eat fermented soy only please, like Miso for example.

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    • #3
      If you could describe what specifically you don't like in the taste and texture maybe we could recommend some different cuts of meat and methods of preparing it that you might find you like. I would stay away from tofu (SOY) either way. I've never been vegetarian so i don't fully understand your issues with meat, but there are others who have been there so I'm sure help is on its way.
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      • #4
        I'm not attached to soy, particularly not tofu, but the carb count in beans is so high that I'm sure I shouldn't be eating those either.

        Thanks for the ideas!

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        • #5
          How about shellfish? Shrimp? Lobster? Think of them as bugs. ; )

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          • #6
            I've never liked it. Even as a kid, I'd feed the meat part of dinner to the dog.

            Maybe it's the softness of it--the only things I like (bacon, crispy peperonni) are crispy. I can handle a few bites of the really well-done edges of a steak or burger, but that's about it.

            Seafood...no...way. I lived in Alaska for years, and tried soooo hard to eat fish. I can't even stand the smell of cooking sea vegetables.

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            • #7
              You know, I think I could eat bugs. Hmmm.

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              • #8
                I'd suggest reading Nourishing Traditions. It has great information about people's nutritional needs and the best--and worst--ways to meet them. I question whether primal is right for you. Although it can be a quick way to lose lbs., to be successful (I think) means embracing a completely different way of thinking about food and exercise.
                Getting adequate fat from optimal sources, plus animal protein, are cornerstones of the dietary suggestions.
                Having said all that, eggs and cheese are good sources of protein/fat.
                Tofu is bad for you.

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                • #9
                  I already ordered it!

                  I wonder if it is really right for me too. I'm type A blood, jewish, east-european. Perhaps protein from lots of high-fat cultured dairy?

                  Thanks for your insight

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                  • #10
                    You can do this.

                    Tofu is NOT GOOD for you. Soy is poison. So are beans. I probably don't even need to mention how bad grains are, do I?

                    You MUST learn to eat fish or dark-meat chicken, at the very least. You cannot be a vegetarian and be successfully Primal. It is functionally impossible. You say you can eat bacon and pepperoni, so start there . Then learn to spice regular, uncured meat with things that make it taste better until you adjust to how meat is supposed to taste - which means going to places that know how to cook it, and eating it there, and finding out how they cook it so you can reproduce it at home. The problem is most likely that you don't know how to properly prepare meat, since you've been a vegetarian all your life.

                    But you cannot - CANNOT - do Primal correctly without eating some kind of animal protein. Flat-out, period, end of story.
                    Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

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                    • #11
                      The healthiest and thinnest I've ever been in my entire life were for a number of years in my 20's when I was a vegetarian; I lived in Nebraska for a short time, and when you can smell a feedlot for 200 miles... well, it changes how one thinks of meat.

                      I was determined not to be one of those vegetarians that lives on chips and dip, though, so I learned how to cook.

                      I did eggs, yogurt, cheese, occasional shrimp because I liked it, milk, more eggs, beans in many forms but not every day (chickpea based middle eastern stuff was fairly usual), surprisingly little pasta, tons of veggies. Lots of stir fries and salads with eggs and various nuts. I had a very simple cookbook with a ton of casseroles and gratins that involved various proportions of various-textured vegetables layered with various cheeses and nuts. No tofu; I never could stand the stuff. There were a surprising number of casseroles/bakes that involved walnuts, pecans, almonds, seeds, etc. that were really pretty good. I'm sorry I don't know where that cookbook is, actually, because I've thought a number of times recently that I'd like to go back and revisit a few of those (I love meat, and I'm not in the least bit sentimental or scared of it any more!) simply because I remember them as being tasty. It was true hippy food.

                      I don't think it's totally inconceivable to come at least close to "primal," whatever that means.

                      That said--Bacon IS "a gateway meat"!!! Bacon and burgers, bacon wrapped around chicken, bacon smothered in bacon...

                      It wasn't bacon that ended my experiment, though. I just woke up one day craving a rare hamburger. It made me ill.





                      But the next one didn't.

                      I only wish I had kept cooking for myself and eating mostly whole foods INCLUDING meat. Might have made a significant difference in my life and health. *sigh*

                      I couldn't do a total vegetarian thing anymore. I just enjoy meat too much. But when I did it, it worked pretty well in terms of my health. I know I was twenty-something and it's pretty hard to screw that up--but I was a lot healthier than a lot of people I knew then.
                      Last edited by gottaluvalab; 10-17-2010, 03:40 AM.

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                      • #12
                        I would guess that maybe if you'd kept up the vegetarianism there would've been a bunch of little niggles and some weight gain over the next decade or so - that's what happened for me, anyway. Niggles and weight both gone now.

                        For the OP... this is certainly tricky! Maybe gradually desensitising yourself is the way to go, as people are suggesting.

                        Tempeh (fermented, traditional, better than tofu) bake or nut roasts with a tiny bit of liver mixed in, and then a bit more liver next time? (Chicken liver is mildest in flavour.)

                        Lentil 'bolognese' sauce with a little mince mixed in, and working your way towards pure meat? (The texture of well-cooked green or puy lentils is a decent mince replacement in tomato sauce, so you could take it the other way, too.)

                        There are plenty of vegetarian recipes more or less designed to keep the meat-eaters pacified by including meaty flavours and textures from onion, mushroom, tempeh, seitan (OK, maybe better avoid that!), lentils etc. You could take those and gradually turn them back into the original. If you're eating with other omnivores, or if you have freezer space, you could make batches of both versions and then feed yourself on a mix of the two.

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                        • #13
                          I haven't eaten meat for 33 years because of the taste but eat fish every day (maybe too much), and I am also now trying to eat meat again. I have started with bacon which is OK and once a week have included a sausage and a small piece of lambs liver - yuk, I just hold my nose and eat it quick. Have had a little success with the Primal Meatballs which are half mince and half sausage meat but have lots of herbs and garlic to mask the taste. Family eat them in sauce for evening meal and I save a couple to have myself with salad for lunch the next day. Think it will be a long time before I can eat more but I'm not worried as I also eat plenty of fish, eggs and cheese. I think you will just have to take it slowly. Part of the problem with me is the texture of meat. What is the significance about being blood group A?

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                          • #14
                            Not trying to be disrespectful or snarky, but really people. If you can't do meat, how do expect that primal will work for you? I did my own Vegetarian experiment a few months before primal. It was a miserable experience. bloated, farting constantly. cramping when going to the bathroom. You cannot tell me that this way of eating/life is better? The issue that most have with meat is the un-sustainable way it's raised. If you eat primal correctly, you are eating Wild Caught, sustainably raised beef, pork etc. Animals that did NOT come off of a disgusting feed lot. soy is not food. Soy is an estrogenic nightmare that one should not eat, PERIOD. You can eat primally be eating eggs, nuts, organic whole/full fat dairy. Embrace your inner caveman. I am pretty sure that grok never went shopping for tofu.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PrincessGrok View Post
                              sustainably raised beef, pork etc. Animals that did NOT come off of a disgusting feed lot.
                              Pasture raised beef actually improves the quality of the soil. Ruminants eating grass and refertilising the soil is part of the cycle of nature.
                              A steak a day keeps the doctor away

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