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  • #16
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    After a carb binge, I find increasing my fat intake the next day really helps curve my cravings. Gets lots of fat and you will be back on track.

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    • #17
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      I'd say no carb is fine for someone that doesn't workout, but I know that you do. I suggest, like many here have, lay off the fruit and get a modest amount of your carbs from green leafy veg. An old bodybuilder secret, lots of spinach and a gallon of distilled water a day. It'll flush you out, you'll feel less bloated and yucky. As you know, I had a front row seat at the carb circus this weekend. Had lots of green leafy veg yesterday and my distilled water and this morning I could put my rings back on my fingers. You'll feel better once the water weight goes away.

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      • #18
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        There's no need for carbs. I don't eat any and I don't have cravings. There are a couple tricks you can try, like eating a couple tablespoons of coconut oil (or your fat of choice), having some glutamine in water, etc. I agree with Tarlach that it's much harder to do moderate carb consumption than to just forget it exists. I suppose I get whatever it is in the eggs, and glycogen in the meat, and the residual 6g/cup in the heavy cream in my coffee, though.


        I'd probably avoid sweeteners too for the time being.

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        • #19
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          Just to add - I don't have any problems working out on no carb.

          The "Seven Deadly Sins"

          • Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . • Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . .• Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
          • Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . • Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . • Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
          • Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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          • #20
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            I didn't have time to read the ohter replies I am on my way out the door, I feel losing weight isn't just the body it is emotional too I feel depriving yourself is a form of punishment and that doesn't send good signals to your body...just get back to the plan, drink tons of water and move on. their is no reason to punish yourself and not have any carbs!

            just my opinion oxox Darlene

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            • #21
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              I agree that you can be successful on a no carb diet, don't get me wrong. But I also believe it takes some time to adapt. Diana, correct me if I am wrong, but it doesn't sound like this is something that you want to do long term.


              Also, there is no such thing as no carb. Glycogen is stored in the muscle meat of the animal you are consuming. That is, unless, your grass fed cow is actually cow fed cow.

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              • #22
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                I went no carb for about 3 months and it didn't work out for me. Eating small amounts of green veggies has made me leaner than when I was on low carb eating one meal of meat/fat everyday. Going zero carb will help with hunger if that is an issue for you. You simply are not hungry when eating only meat/fat.


                Here's an interesting article for those concerned with intense athletic performance. I really like this chap's blog: http://www.paleonu.com/panu-weblog/2...-athletes.html

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                • #23
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                  So, PrimalJewish, how many grams of carbohydrate are in a lb of steak then?

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                  • #24
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                    Diana Renata, I personally feel great while in zero carbs (meat, eggs, bacon, water, tea). I am not a sportsy person though, but I am very active. I commute using public transportation and walk a lot and have never experienced any lack of energy.


                    Plus being in ketosis, at least in my experience, feels great.

                    “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” -Oscar Wilde
                    "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw
                    "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." -Martin Mull

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                    • #25
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                      for you guys that are more or less no carb, how do you cope with social situations. Here in France, though of course we will sometimes go to the restaurant, MUCH socialising is done when invited for meals very regularly at each others' houses. My fench, italian, spanish etc fiends are all great cooks and for me it would be veyr offensive to refuse 50%+ of what they prepare. I do refuse dessert and have done for years but i usually include carbs when i am invited.

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                      • #26
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                        Jedi: With some people, you could write a book on the awkwardness of social situations. Food and culture are almost inextricably intertwined, and when some people will start to raise their eyebrows at a mere leaning in a primal or low-carb direction, you can imagine the reaction to very low or zero carbers. But like I said in another post, and like Lemmy from Motorhead once said: Some people are just dying to be offended about something!


                        I find the less of a fuss I make about whatever I eat or don't eat, the less of a reaction I get from others in general. But I've always loved to cook and still do, and I understand the negative feeling, however small or understandable, when someone declines something you tried to make the very best you could...and so if necessary, the optimal thing to do IMO is to tactfully yet explicitly make it clear that your choices are in no way a rejection of their hospitality, friendship, love, or whatever they're trying to offer besides the mere physical food itself.

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                        • #27
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                          "So, PrimalJewish, how many grams of carbohydrate are in a lb of steak then?"


                          Some.


                          "All cells contain a small % of carbs in their plasma membranes and in membrane enclosed carb stores such as glycogen stores. Muscles, because they are able to store so little glycogen, rely on the liver to be constantly resupplying glycogen via blood glucose. Skeletal muscles can also fall back on phosphocreatine to supply needed energy (creatine kinase catalysis). So, yes, when you eat meat, you do eat a small % of carbs that are metabolized when you eat them via digestive enzymes on the whole body and cellular level."


                          To answer your question, I don't know, and I don't care...cause I don't eat zero carb.

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                          • #28
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                            0.25g of carbs in a pound of ribeye according to nutritiondata.com. Seems a bit low to me, but that kind of thing is possibly difficult to measure.

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                            • #29
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                              You're right, and it wouldn't be consistent from animal to animal. Like humans, animals will use their glycogen stores when stressed. The amount of physical stress the animal endures before slaughter takes account. Also, a lot of farms will carb load their animals prior to slaughter because it produces a prettier pound of flesh with a lower pH balance, and what they feed them also matters.


                              Overall, it's insignificant. I only brought it up to be argumentative.

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                              • #30
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                                It's okay PJAP, it's just your type A personality shining through

                                You are what you eat,
                                and what you eat eats too - Michael Pollan

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