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  • Zinc deficiency - zinc tally taste test

    http://www.drcheryl.ca/basic_lab/zinc.html

    I know a few people on here are supplementing with zinc. I found this test pretty interesting. Essentially you swish a zinc solution in your mouth and if you are zinc SUFFICIENT you will sense an immediate bitter taste. In contrast, if you are some level of zinc deficient then you will sense a taste ranging from nothing to a milder bitter taste.

    Anyone tried this before?


    Edit: To include criticism that the test can measure false positive or false negative depending on the testers overall taste sensitivity.

    http://siliconvalleyfit.com/zinc-tal...firm-accuracy/
    Last edited by lcme; 10-13-2010, 02:02 PM.

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    Have not, but I recently ordered one thats coming in the mail any day now. Will be nice to really see if im zink defficient or not, have always thought so because of acne, general slow wound healing, white dots on nails etc.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by lcme View Post
      http://www.drcheryl.ca/basic_lab/zinc.html

      I know a few people on here are supplementing with zinc. I found this test pretty interesting. Essentially you swish a zinc solution in your mouth and if you are zinc SUFFICIENT you will sense an immediate bitter taste. In contrast, if you are some level of zinc deficient then you will sense a taste ranging from nothing to a milder bitter taste.

      Anyone tried this before?
      Icme,
      Where you get your zinc solution to swish. Any links? Did you make it?

      Many thanks,
      Grizz

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      • #4
        I've done the test with Thorne brand Zinc Sulfate, which can be found at iHerb. I am definitely zinc deficient (slow healing, white spots on nails, persistent acne, thyroid and digestive issues), and the test confirmed this; a shot glass of the solution held in my mouth for 30 seconds only produced a very faint baking soda taste. Most of what I've read has claimed this test is more accurate than tests of serum zinc levels, so I think it's a good way to determine if you need to supplement or not.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Grizz View Post
          Icme,
          Where you get your zinc solution to swish. Any links? Did you make it?
          Grizz

          Sorry Grizz. I haven't tried it yet. I just heard about it on Robb Wolf's podcast and googled to check it out.

          It looks like a 0.1% zinc sulphate solution is the best concentration. I'm sure that you can also use zinc picolinate. Basically just find a capsule that only contains zinc, open it, pour it into the right volume of water and stir till it is dissolved.

          I'm probably going to get some zinc at the store tonight. I'll update here if I try it.

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          • #6
            Claims are nice, but where is the research showing that the test has any validity at all?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by avocado View Post
              Claims are nice, but where is the research showing that the test has any validity at all?
              http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8112809
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              • #8
                Here's what I use for oral zinc status testing:
                http://www.iherb.com/Ethical-Nutrien...0-ml/3624?at=0

                At one point, I had a cite that supported the correlation between the 'taste perception of zinc in solution' and 'zinc tissue status'. For the life of me, I can't find the reference. Anyone?



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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cillakat View Post
                  Here's what I use for oral zinc status testing:
                  http://www.iherb.com/Ethical-Nutrien...0-ml/3624?at=0

                  At one point, I had a cite that supported the correlation between the 'taste perception of zinc in solution' and 'zinc tissue status'. For the life of me, I can't find the reference. Anyone?
                  Oh thanks. What's your ref code again?

                  Someone posted a PubMed link above. Is that the same study?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by lcme View Post
                    Oh thanks. What's your ref code again?

                    Someone posted a PubMed link above. Is that the same study?
                    It's not the same study. i keep looking for it though. lol

                    You can use my email for iherb.com: cillakat @ gmail . com or there is a code posted in my supplement doc linked below.


                    K



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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by QuirkyPixy View Post
                      So some correlation (assuming the results are repeatable), but wrong a significant percentage of the time. Which is true of most tests.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by avocado View Post
                        So some correlation (assuming the results are repeatable), but wrong a significant percentage of the time. Which is true of most tests.
                        Assuming that the study was well done we can assume that the results are repeatable, but since this is only a PubMed abstract it essentially means nothing to either of us. This is just a fun and harmless test that likely will tell you something about your zinc state. Obviously it would be dangerous if someone started supplementing with excessive amounts of zinc just because of this test, but I'll consider that one for the "Darwin Awards."

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                        • #13
                          how is zinc picolante (sp?) for a supplement?
                          Get on my Level
                          http://malpaz.wordpress.com/

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MalPaz View Post
                            how is zinc picolante (sp?) for a supplement?
                            This is one for cillakat.
                            From what I have seen picolinate is fine, but sulphate can cause stomach upset. You might want a second opinion on that though :P

                            Edit:
                            I think this paper is free, it might just be available where I am. http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/reprint/119/10/1432
                            Basically picolinate helps metal ions to get across lipid bilayers, which means that it would help metal ions to permeate into cells.
                            Last edited by lcme; 10-14-2010, 08:41 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Confusion

                              I am very confused on the zinc tests. According to the taste test I would be zinc deficient; however, blood tests show me with an EXCESS of zinc and a deficiency in copper. I have two different practitioners at odds over this. Can any one help shed any light on this for me? Thanks.

                              Originally posted by lcme View Post
                              http://www.drcheryl.ca/basic_lab/zinc.html

                              I know a few people on here are supplementing with zinc. I found this test pretty interesting. Essentially you swish a zinc solution in your mouth and if you are zinc SUFFICIENT you will sense an immediate bitter taste. In contrast, if you are some level of zinc deficient then you will sense a taste ranging from nothing to a milder bitter taste.

                              Anyone tried this before?


                              Edit: To include criticism that the test can measure false positive or false negative depending on the testers overall taste sensitivity.

                              Zinc Tally Test Needs Blood Testing to Confirm Accuracy

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