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  • #16
    Originally posted by adam204 View Post
    So if we have a little too much iodine than the recommended amount, can/will our bodies get rid of it safely or will it become toxic ?
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    Adam,

    There is no risk of toxicity from iodine. Dr. Brownstein recommends 100 mg a day for people who are suffering iodine deficiency disease such as cancer, Fibrocystic Breast Disease, PCOS, uterus problems, prostate problems.
    Prior to WWII iodine used to be a major medicine used in dosages up to 1 gram. See the History of Iodine:
    iodinehistory

    For daily maintenance to overcome the toxins we live with - Bromide, Fluoride, & Chlorine Dr. Brownstein recommends 50mg a day. If you can carefully avoid fluoride in water, bromide (breads) & chlorine, he says you can reduce the iodine dosage to 12.5 mg a day. We swim in a sea of these toxins, and they displace iodine from our cells.
    Iodine deficiencies & dosages

    Any excess iodine not used in our body goes out in the urine. Even while doing this, the iodine prevents UTI pain by killing virus & germs. I take 50mg a day with required co-supplements.

    The toxins to be concerned about are the fluoride, bromide & chlorine that comes flowing out of our cells as iodine displaces toxins. Too much iodine too soon can send more toxins into the bloodstream than the liver & kidneys can handle, resulting in detox symptoms. So go slooow as recommended here: http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Handout

    More here:
    http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references
    http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Reading
    http://tinyurl.com/iodine-testimonials

    Any more questions?
    Grizz
    Last edited by Grizz; 08-19-2013, 01:28 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by adam204 View Post
      So if we have a little too much iodine than the recommended amount, can/will our bodies get rid of it safely or will it become toxic ?

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      That's quite a point of contention. It appears that some people with thyroid-related symptoms are miraculously cured by gradually increasing iodine intake to pretty enormous levels, and others are worsened by even relatively reasonable doses. Some have posited that selenium sufficiency is a prerequisite for iodine supplementation, but it appears that some people still get worse from the iodine.
      The Champagne of Beards

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      • #18
        Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
        That's quite a point of contention. It appears that some people with thyroid-related symptoms are miraculously cured by gradually increasing iodine intake to pretty enormous levels, and others are worsened by even relatively reasonable doses. Some have posited that selenium sufficiency is a prerequisite for iodine supplementation, but it appears that some people still get worse from the iodine.
        Rich,
        Read the Dr. Brownstein Protocol carefully:
        http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Handout

        You will see 200mcg of Selenium specified. Selenium is a co-requisite for iodine. If you take iodine without selenium, problems could erupt. That is what you have heard. You cannot take iodine by itself.

        For more on the subject of why selenium is required see this chapter:

        Bottom line, sometimes hypothyroid is caused by Hashimotos, and in such cases, selenium MUST be started before or with iodine as described in the links above.

        Any more questions?
        Grizz

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Grizz View Post
          Rich,
          Read the Dr. Brownstein Protocol carefully:
          http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Handout

          You will see 200mcg of Selenium specified. Selenium is a co-requisite for iodine. If you take iodine without selenium, problems could erupt. That is what you have heard. You cannot take iodine by itself.

          For more on the subject of why selenium is required see this chapter:

          Bottom line, sometimes hypothyroid is caused by Hashimotos, and in such cases, selenium MUST be started before or with iodine as described in the links above.

          Any more questions?
          Grizz
          I know how you feel about the issue, Grizz. I am one of the many (or few) who read the entire other iodine thread.

          I have supplemented with Lugol's up to 100mg/day, along with the recommended ATP co-factors and salt-water and Brazil nuts. I'm just stating the facts. And the facts are that some people still get worse on iodine supplementation.
          The Champagne of Beards

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          • #20
            Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
            I know how you feel about the issue, Grizz. I am one of the many (or few) who read the entire other iodine thread.

            I have supplemented with Lugol's up to 100mg/day, along with the recommended ATP co-factors and salt-water and Brazil nuts. I'm just stating the facts. And the facts are that some people still get worse on iodine supplementation.
            Rich,

            You are right. It is a fact that iodine supplementation comes with detox symptoms for most people. That is why we start iodine with a very tiny dosage and titrate very slowly. I recommend starting with 1 drop of Lugols 2% in a bottle of water, then drink 1 ounce daily.
            Then 2 drops in the bottle of water and drink 1 ounce daily. Etc. to titrate up to 50mg a day.

            If detox symptoms appear, then do the Salt Flush and the Pulse Dosing. Eventually all detox symptoms pass. Not everyone suffers detox, and not to the same degree. Some can start right out at 12mg with no detox. Others have taken 6 months to reach 3mg a day.

            Detox explained perfectly here:
            Iodine deficiencies & dosages

            and here:
            http://tinyurl.com/Detox-Help

            Grizz

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            • #21
              List of Iodine Books:
              http://tinyurl.com/iodine-books

              Grizz

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              • #22
                There is no known cause of PCOS, only theories. There is no cure for it yet either, just treatment of the symptoms. To suggest that large amounts iodine is the cure all for it is irresponsible, in my opinion. And didn't you just post something a few days ago about high ph being the cure for it?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by vh67 View Post
                  There is no known cause of PCOS, only theories. There is no cure for it yet either, just treatment of the symptoms. To suggest that large amounts iodine is the cure all for it is irresponsible, in my opinion. And didn't you just post something a few days ago about high ph being the cure for it?
                  Vh67,
                  Our testimonials don't agree with your statement. See Testimonials chapter PCOS for cures using iodine:
                  http://tinyurl.com/iodine-testimonial
                  Left click on "PCOS" in the index to see the details.

                  Iodine deficiency is directly related to disease of the female organs. Breasts, Ovaries, uterus and especially the thyroid.
                  See our testimonials on each subject.
                  More here: http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references

                  Also see Cancers in our Testimonials - *

                  Extremely acidic pH is the common cause of a Pandoras Box of multiple disease. The typical Standard American Diet can leave some people 1,000 times more acidic than normal. Follow these instructions to get your pH back to a normal 7.2,
                  http://www.iconperformanceonline.com/?p=3678
                  Do a Google of "Acidosis Disease" for more on this subject.

                  Grizz
                  Last edited by Grizz; 08-19-2013, 03:59 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by vh67 View Post
                    There is no known cause of PCOS, only theories. There is no cure for it yet either, just treatment of the symptoms. To suggest that large amounts iodine is the cure all for it is irresponsible, in my opinion. And didn't you just post something a few days ago about high ph being the cure for it?
                    yeah i've told grizz before i supp with iodine and i still have pcos

                    seems he didn't believe me, he's still adding pcos to the list of maladies cured
                    beautiful
                    yeah you are

                    Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
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                    • #25
                      PCOS (Polycystic Ovary Syndrome)

                      CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR OR LICENSED HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL.
                      PCOS Caused by Iodine Deficiency - Article
                      Iodine deficiency — Cause of PCOS? | PCOSInfo

                      Understanding PCOS the Hidden Epidemic by Jeffrey Dach, M.D.
                      Jeffrey Dach MD Bio-Identical Hormone Blog: Understanding PCOS, the Hidden Epidemic by Jeffrey Dach, M.D.

                      There are no guarantees, does your doctor give guaranteed cures?

                      Grizz

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                      • #26
                        It's like deja vu all over again.
                        "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                        B*tch-lite

                        Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                          yeah i've told grizz before i supp with iodine and i still have pcos

                          seems he didn't believe me, he's still adding pcos to the list of maladies cured
                          I remember reading that when I was reading the old thread. We just have it, we don't understand it I guess.

                          On a slightly amusing note, one of Grizz's articles in support of the iodine cure actually states there is no cure for PCOS.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by vh67 View Post
                            On a slightly amusing note, one of Grizz's articles in support of the iodine cure actually states there is no cure for PCOS.
                            I just caught that too. Had a good laugh.

                            Grizz would have everyone, everywhere, every time, take massive doses of iodine. Of course, in some people, megadoses of iodine can cause HYPERthyroidism - which can be just as bad (potentially deadly even) as hypothyroidism can be.

                            Iodine excess and hyperthyroidism. [Thyroid. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI

                            The trick is that middle ground. You wouldn't want too little iodine, but you also don't want too much.

                            Edit: Oh yeah, forgot to mention... The article's authors state that because of the damage to certain patient's thyroids from excess iodine which caused it to be over active for way too long, now they are probably going to suffer from symptoms of hypothyroidism for the rest of their life.

                            So, too much iodine --> hyperthyroid --> thyroid damage --> hypothyroid. Irony.
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                            • #29
                              This is one of those health subjects that perplex me. It seems like if you have too much suddenly, you're boned. Too little suddenly, and you are also boned. Yet nothing seems to give you warning enough to back away from the edge. How does a human stay balanced, then?

                              M.

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                              • #30
                                You guys are all idiots. Iodine will leak minerals from the bones if you consume too much. If you go backpacking, you often take iodine tablets to cleanse water. It's well known that drinking this water for too long is really bad for the body.

                                Don't believe the pseudoscience out there.

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