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    Has anybody else experienced a change in dreaming while sleeping on the PB diet?

    I can't remember the last time I actually had a dream before this, probably 3 or 4 years ago. Since I started PB about three weeks ago I've started dreaming all of the sudden.

    The last three nights I have had some seriously intense dreams, not really nightmares, but definitely rich and almost lucid. The only thing I can think of is that my pre-pb diet of grains and goop had been somehow inhibiting the normal dreaming process.

    There must be somebody else out there who noticed a drastic shift in their dreams since changing to PB.
    A steak a day keeps the doctor away.


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    Snap out of it, you are still dreaming
    "Don't dream it, be it"

    -Dr. Frank-N-Furter

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    • #3
      Originally posted by shiggles View Post
      There must be somebody else out there who noticed a drastic shift in their dreams since changing to PB.
      If your hypothesis is that something in the PB diet causes increased frequency or intensity of dreaming, shouldn't you be looking for evidence challenging your hypothesis rather than evidence supporting it?

      But if you'd prefer to only find evidence supporting your hypothesis, I'm quite sure that you'll be able to find what you're looking for if you search hard enough. Ancel Keys sure did.

      Ok, ok, maybe that was a little rough. To answer your question: no, I've noticed no change in dreaming frequency or intensity on the PB diet. I wish I did, as I find dreams to be very interesting and often exhilarating.

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      • #4
        Actually, we dream every single night. Its a part of our sleep cycle.

        When we remember our dreams is when we wake up during the R.E.M. (rapid eye movement) phase of our sleep cycle - when dreaming occurs.

        What I can assume is happening is your body is changing it's chemistry, it's rhythms are changing too. I am also assuming you have made changes to your exercise patterns, and this will affect your sleep as well.
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        • #5
          God, yes. I've decided to get strict about it the past couple weeks, and really ratcheted up the intensity of my workouts and put an increased emphasis on sleeping enough the past half week or so, and I almost always remember my dreams anyways.
          But I wake up, and my emotions are more intense, I remember them more vivdly, etc.
          I think mine has more to do with me lapsing right to sleep after I lay down than anything nutrition wise, though.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by doghead View Post
            I am also assuming you have made changes to your exercise patterns, and this will affect your sleep as well.
            I have indeed changed my exercise. Whereas before I was all about cardio cardio cardio. Now I am following Mark's recommended workout methodology very closely.

            Originally posted by jasonph View Post
            God, yes. I've decided to get strict about it the past couple weeks, and really ratcheted up the intensity of my workouts and put an increased emphasis on sleeping enough the past half week or so, and I almost always remember my dreams anyways.
            But I wake up, and my emotions are more intense, I remember them more vivdly, etc.
            I think mine has more to do with me lapsing right to sleep after I lay down than anything nutrition wise, though.
            Yes! My first proof of cause! Thank you, confirmation bias!
            A steak a day keeps the doctor away.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by shiggles View Post
              Yes! My first proof of cause! Thank you, confirmation bias!
              I like yer style, shiggles.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by chairdr View Post
                snap out of it, you are still dreaming
                are you the matrix??!?!
                A steak a day keeps the doctor away.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Big L View Post
                  I like yer style, shiggles.
                  Ha! In the PB world of proof, causality and actual resarch, SOMEONE has to hold down the old fashioned anecdotal methods. If it's true for one person, then it's the truth!
                  A steak a day keeps the doctor away.

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                  • #10
                    I think I saw an increase in dreams, I would attribute it to fixing my sleep. If you enjoy it, you could look into ways of inducing lucid dreaming did it for a while, waking myself up an hour or so before I had to "get up" and I had lucid dreams almost every time, fun stuff

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                    • #11
                      It's a forum, there's plenty of anecdote-seeking here. Nothing wrong with that as long as we know that's what we're doing!

                      To theorize, perhaps you're waking up from your sleep in a different (more refreshed?) way that makes you more likely to remember dreams. We've heard plenty (of anecdotes!) here about people waking up more easily, without hitting snooze a million times, etc.
                      "Trust me, you will soon enter a magical land full of delicious steakflowers, with butterbacons fluttering around over the extremely rompable grass and hillsides."

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                      • #12
                        I would totally agree the dreams are better and the sleep quality is much improved on PB. Just one of the many benefits beyond the effortless weight loss and boundless energy. And no, Mark is not paying me to say this.
                        Never eat anything bigger than your own head.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jenny View Post
                          To theorize, perhaps you're waking up from your sleep in a different (more refreshed?) way that makes you more likely to remember dreams. We've heard plenty (of anecdotes!) here about people waking up more easily, without hitting snooze a million times, etc.
                          Too true! I hit the snooze button, on average, 91% less now that I'm on the PB diet. Kidding about that %, I have no idea how many times I hit it before. I know on a couple of occasions I hit it so many times I sailed right past 8:30 when I was supposed to be in the office already. Now I hit it once, or not at all. Then I get up, have nothing to do for the 1.5hrs before work, and I make food
                          Last edited by shiggles; 10-08-2010, 12:06 PM.
                          A steak a day keeps the doctor away.

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                          • #14
                            Welcome to the PB world of being a first-time morning person.
                            Never eat anything bigger than your own head.

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                            • #15
                              Yep! No dreams for years, and two weeks into PB = vivid dreams almost every night, most of which I even remember.
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