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    My three kids love milk, I have been buying whole milk because I thought it had less sugar and more fat than 1% or 2%. This came up at one of the kids doctors appointments and the doctor said if they are going to drink milk it shouldnt be whole milk. Just wondering if anyone knew if I am wrong in my thinking and should start buying 1 or 2%

  • #2
    Did the doctor tell you why? Let me put some words into his mouth. "Whole milk is high in fat." As if that's supposed to scare you.
    You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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    • #3
      The doctor is wrong. Children need more fat/cholesterol for brain development. Not less.

      Like Grumpy said probably thinking its too high in fat. Surprised doctors haven't tried to ban breast feeding with all the fat the poor babies are being subjected to.

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      • #4
        And unpasteurized farm fresh milk is probably best of all. I don't go for the lower percentage milks either.
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        • #5
          Drink only whole raw milk.
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          • #6
            I am a reformed milk drinker myself. The dairy industry had to lay off a cow when I quit drinking milk like I used to (which was before I actually went primal). I put milk in things now, but I almost never drink milk directly anymore. At one point I would have at least one glass of milk with all three meals that I ate every day.
            Bossy has been put out to pasture now and is enjoying her retirement. I get a card from her once in a while.
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            • #7
              Here's an extreme example of what skimmed milk can do.

              Weston Price tells the story of a little boy who was fed on skimmed milk and white bread by his parents. He suffered from convulsions. He also fractured his femur after falling in a convulsion and there was no healing for sixty days.

              A priest called Price in. He'd been asked to baptize the child as it was expected he'd die. Price made sure the kid got whole milk - and some extra butter. the convulsions stopped, and the leg healed in thirty days. Story - and X-rays - here:

              http://journeytoforever.org/farm_lib...e/price15.html

              That's not an effect of skimmed milk, of course, so much as an effect of a diet that is inadequate overall. But there's nothing adequate at all about skimmed milk. That story's a stark illustration of that. The fat is where the fat-soluble vitamins are.

              There's no dairy is in Professor Cordain's "Paleo" diet. However, small children can't utilize the minerals you get in plants as well as adults can. And in hunter-gatherer communities children would have been given breast milk till two or three. So I'd have thought they ought to get milk if they're able to take it, and that milk should be full fat - or even with extra cream.

              I can hardly believe that doctors are now trying to foist dangerous low-fat diets on children. But it's happening:

              Malnutrition, once associated with slums, is said to have become an increasing problem for middle-class families over the past 15 years. The victims of so-called "muesli-belt malnutrition"are at risk of stunted growth, anaemia, learning difficulties, heart disease and diabetes.

              Nutrition expert Dr Andrew Hill says that he has seen cases of malnourished children after parents fed them with skimmed milk or low-energy products rather than full-fat milk when they were weaned.

              "Young growing infants they need full fat milk until they are at least four or five years old," said Dr Hill, senior lecturer in behavioural sciences at Leeds University.
              http://www.independent.co.uk/news/mu...n-1160104.html

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Daemonized View Post
                And unpasteurized farm fresh milk is probably best of all. I don't go for the lower percentage milks either.
                Its a way for dairy companies to make more money. That watery shit you call skim milk is what dairy farmers used to feed to the pigs because it was unsellable.
                A steak a day keeps the doctor away

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                • #9
                  I just went through this with my kids doctor. My wife comes home and says next time she is just going to lie to the doctor so she doesn't the low fat lecture again. I guess my 5 year old is above average weight for her age. She is note close to being fat, is about 5 inches taller than the other kids in her class, and can go up a rock wall like nobodys business. I was there when she said the same about my 2 year and I said "but you can also see her ab muscle, so are you saying she is fat?" No answer. Some doctors go by numbers and stats and CW regardless of what is actually in front of them.

                  I would get the raw milk, but in Florida it is illegal to sell for human consumption.
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                  • #10
                    Here's a great article on raw milk vs pasteurized. Basically, don't drink pasteurized milk in any %.
                    The Biochemical Magic of Raw Milk

                    Also, Mark's take:
                    The Definitive Guide to Dairy

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                    • #11
                      Show me a 1% or a 2% cow, and I'll be ok with it.

                      Til then, I go (went) for the the blackmarket stuff. It may be illegal to sell, but it's not illegal to trade mason jars. Especially if some of the mason jars are full of, say, soup, homemade broth, etc, and some are full of milk.

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                      • #12
                        In my neck of the woods the general concensus with doctors is formula is best for them, they say "it's okay" to breastfeed but they really try to push the formula basically they try to put it in the context of breastfeeding is "acceptable" but formula is the norm. so i wouldn't be surprised if CW did try to ban breastfeeding. when we started weening our daughter off of breastmilk we started by mixing it with goats milk till it was just all goats milk (she liked that better than cows) then mixing cows milk with the goats till it was all cows milk. for some reason goats milk tastes more similar to breastmilk. i actually got into an an argument cause i was putting half and half in with the whole milk little bit of CW her mom held onto that fat must be bad but man did my daughter love those bottles

                        Originally posted by doug View Post
                        The doctor is wrong. Children need more fat/cholesterol for brain development. Not less.

                        Like Grumpy said probably thinking its too high in fat. Surprised doctors haven't tried to ban breast feeding with all the fat the poor babies are being subjected to.
                        Last edited by rabbidchicken69; 09-29-2010, 10:50 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Eklecktika View Post

                          Til then, I go (went) for the the blackmarket stuff. It may be illegal to sell, but it's not illegal to trade mason jars. Especially if some of the mason jars are full of, say, soup, homemade broth, etc, and some are full of milk.

                          Jus' Sayin'...
                          It's only illegal in some states. In others you are ok to sell from the farm, and in some states raw milk is legally available in stores. Still, it's pretty hilarious that it's actually ILLEGAL to buy raw milk in some places. Map of each state and subsequent laws here

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by skink531 View Post
                            I just went through this with my kids doctor. My wife comes home and says next time she is just going to lie to the doctor so she doesn't the low fat lecture again. I guess my 5 year old is above average weight for her age. She is note close to being fat, is about 5 inches taller than the other kids in her class, and can go up a rock wall like nobodys business. I was there when she said the same about my 2 year and I said "but you can also see her ab muscle, so are you saying she is fat?" No answer. Some doctors go by numbers and stats and CW regardless of what is actually in front of them.

                            I would get the raw milk, but in Florida it is illegal to sell for human consumption.
                            Hey, skink531, I live in South Beach, a few miles down the road from you, and I buy raw milk and other good stuff from a food co-op. Send me a message and I'll fill you in on the details, if you'd like!

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