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  • My first post - hi everyone.

    This is my second week of going primal and I've been eagerly digesting everything I can read, starting with Primal Body, Primal Mind by Nora Gedgaudas and now I'm half way through The Primal Blueprint. Both books are truly inspiring and I look forward to learning more. I went primal as it just 'made sense'. Never have I read something that resonated so much that I almost started to cry when I thought about how much I have tortured by body over the years.

    I haven't done this to lose weight as I'm 6'4 and was 191 lbs when I started but I've found the weight falling off anyway so maybe that 6 pack I've always wanted isn't such a dream! I've always maintained a reasonable level of fitness with surfing, jogging, mountain biking and cross-fit so the exercise side of things makes perfect sense to me.

    The carb crazy life is behind me now, my wife is onboard and we're making gradual changes with the kids. We've even sourced primal style food for our dog based on all natural ingredients, meat and veges and no grains! I can't even imagine wanting to go back to the way I ate

    I've read a bit here about people experiencing a 'carb-flu' but can't seem to find a good explanation. I found after a week of going primal that I suddenly woke up one day feeling like I was hit by a train - no energy, splitting headache. This persisted for 2 days and I'm now starting to feel better but still a bit down on energy. I'm assuming this is the body adjusting to the lack of blood sugar whilst it adjusts to a more ketonic method for utilising energy? Any info on this would be appreciated.

    As an aside, I now find it really hard to sit there and watch people gorging themselves on carbs without saying 'do you know what you are doing to your body?'. We have been blind-sided by mainstream media and the health and food industries for so long, I feel a strong desire to make my voice heard. However, I'll focus on myself and my family first and then see what I can do to influence those around me - all without trying to sound like a fanatic!

    Looking forward to the journey.

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    • Originally posted by stretch72 View Post
      My first post - hi everyone.

      This is my second week of going primal and I've been eagerly digesting everything I can read, starting with Primal Body, Primal Mind by Nora Gedgaudas and now I'm half way through The Primal Blueprint. Both books are truly inspiring and I look forward to learning more. I went primal as it just 'made sense'. Never have I read something that resonated so much that I almost started to cry when I thought about how much I have tortured by body over the years.

      I haven't done this to lose weight as I'm 6'4 and was 191 lbs when I started but I've found the weight falling off anyway so maybe that 6 pack I've always wanted isn't such a dream! I've always maintained a reasonable level of fitness with surfing, jogging, mountain biking and cross-fit so the exercise side of things makes perfect sense to me.

      The carb crazy life is behind me now, my wife is onboard and we're making gradual changes with the kids. We've even sourced primal style food for our dog based on all natural ingredients, meat and veges and no grains! I can't even imagine wanting to go back to the way I ate

      I've read a bit here about people experiencing a 'carb-flu' but can't seem to find a good explanation. I found after a week of going primal that I suddenly woke up one day feeling like I was hit by a train - no energy, splitting headache. This persisted for 2 days and I'm now starting to feel better but still a bit down on energy. I'm assuming this is the body adjusting to the lack of blood sugar whilst it adjusts to a more ketonic method for utilising energy? Any info on this would be appreciated.

      As an aside, I now find it really hard to sit there and watch people gorging themselves on carbs without saying 'do you know what you are doing to your body?'. We have been blind-sided by mainstream media and the health and food industries for so long, I feel a strong desire to make my voice heard. However, I'll focus on myself and my family first and then see what I can do to influence those around me - all without trying to sound like a fanatic!

      Looking forward to the journey.
      Welcome. Nora is awesome. Another info source you may find interesting is the blog of Dr. Georgia Ede called "Diagnosis: Diet".

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      • Hi,
        I'm Nic, 50 and 185lb's. I'd ideally like to be 158lb. Have been 'there' and back several times in the last two years. Trouble is it wasn't sustainable. Counting calories is nasty. I did do Dukan but didn't then reintroduce carbs slowly... Had such a need for them having low fat diet there was nothing to keep me to it.
        I've been doing the ketogenic diet for only four days now and had mid tones yesterday. This morning though I went to the gym... My ketones went back to normal...? Argh. Now, later in the day I've had slight pink... Did training HIIT (20 mins) & weights (for 40) mess it up?
        I've also lost nothing - nada! I drink plenty of water 8 glasses a day and have been very careful with my ratios.
        70% fat
        25% protein
        5% carbs - from salad/veg and cheese/eggs/mayonnaise
        My carb intake amounts to approx 20g per day.
        I don't know why I am not losing weight yet... Have I messed up my body before with silly diets. This one seems to keep me happy and I've just had a wonderful chicken breast fried in proper butter and a green salad. I'm later going to make a desert using unsweetened cocoa powder, full fat cream and a spoonful of Splenda. Had it last night too after finding the recipe online... Tasted delish!
        I do miss my nightly glass of red wine with my dinner but I'd rather be thinner than have it...

        Anyone with advice I'd be really grateful.
        If there's anything I've not told you and might be the answer to my woes don't hesitate to shout at me....
        Thanks guys x

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        • Just found this thread and want to mark my spot. Probably somewhere in these 41 pages already:

          great stuff for anyone new to learn about:

          magnesium
          coconut oil
          getting enough salt
          vitamin D
          bone broth

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          • Originally posted by tigga View Post
            I don't know why I am not losing weight yet...
            Any sleep, stress, or medication issues?
            In my observation it's a rare individual who can do anaerobics (HIIT & weights) while ketogenic without lots of stress or other symptoms. My first idea would be to add some unrefined carb after workouts, or alternately ease up on the workouts and try fewer meals.

            What's in UK mayonnaise btw? If it's a refined oil I would skip it and make homemade.
            37//6'3"/185

            My peculiar nutrition glossary and shopping list

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            • Love l this thread... been doing primal since end of jan this year.. successful so far with 26 lbs gone..I still want to go through all the posts here. Want to learn more about bone broth and fat intake. I have noticed lately I am hungrier than when i started primal so going through this thread has been helpful.

              Thank you and i do appreciate all the knowledge and advice here!!

              Suggestions for sleep issues would also be great if any for newbies like me..

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              • Hi, I'm new here and I'm looking for an alternative to fish oil for bumping up my DHA/EPA, are there any? I've heard of emu oil, does anyone have any experience with that? Is krill oil any good?

                I have another omega 3 related question, yesterday I came across an article on mercola.com where he states

                I would STRONGLY encourage you to avoid all omega-3 eggs as they are actually LESS healthy for you. Typically the animals are fed poor-quality sources of omega-3 fats that are already oxidized. But even if they were healthy, it turns out that omega-3 eggs do not last anywhere near as long as non-omega-3 eggs.
                He does not mention any research literature. Is this something I should be concerned about? Do they feed the chickens rancid flax seed oil and can this then result in oxidized pufa's in my eggs? It seems a bit far fetched.

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                • Originally posted by JackieKessler View Post
                  I think it's more a matter of "your mileage may vary." Some folks can have a small handful (about 1/8 cup) of nuts and be completely satisfied. Others (**Jackie raises hand**) could blissfully eat an entire container of raw almonds and then snort the almond dust for good measure.
                  This made me lol at my desk and I think my coworkers think I'm nuts (no pun intended) now!

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                  • Originally posted by lizch View Post
                    It's taken me a couple of reads to realize that "rolls" is a verb, not a type of bread. The sentence "Dinner rolls around and you're famished? Eat!" is a little eyebrow raising when you make that mistake
                    Yes i read it as literally that and thought I'm not doing that
                    For sample, you're at a restaurant, there are dinner rolls at the table ( bread rolls) and you're hungry so eat ( the bread).
                    I would word that differently.

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                    • Originally posted by skookum View Post
                      You'll know you're getting enough fat when you're full. Do you eat your meal, and at the end, push the plate away and say, "Oof. I couldn't eat another bite."? Are you still full 2 or 4 or 8 hours later? Are you more energetic than you used to be? If you answer yes to these questions, you're getting enough fat.

                      If your meal doesn't fill you up, if you're hungry a few hours later, or if you don't have energy - you need to eat more fat.

                      It really is that simple.
                      Does this apply while you are still switching from carb to fat? (the first 3 weeks)

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                      • I'm a "newb" to commenting on forums. I've definitely read them for years as a bystander. I was once a 274 lb. college student, now a 147 lb. nugget of energy and awesomeness. A LOT happened in between then and now. Lap-band surgery: 75 lbs. literally fell off as I slept. I was eating anything the would get through my tiny portal stomach. Sugar-free jello, protein shakes, oh and mashed potatoes. Yes I was thinner, but I knew nothing about nutrition. Zero. Long story short, gained 20 lbs., fell in love for the first time, major heartbreak, gained 15 lbs., HCG diet, crazy workout freak, cleansing, chinese food and booze, diet pills, gallbladder surgery, vegetarianism, starch diet, only fat diet, HCG, and now PRIMAL. I would go into these hermit modes of hiding out because I was trying to lose weight. I lost weight, but lost pretty much everything else that was good in my life. I avoided my friends and ended losing many of them. Longer story short, here are the most important tools I have acquired:

                        -You've got to quiet your mind and stop freakin' comparing your life and body to everyone else. Seriously, there is a little thing on Facebook where you can "unsubscribe" to people. No de-friending needed. If seeing someone else's "perfectly, shiny" life makes you feel down and dull....DO IT. No harm, no foul.
                        -If it's not your weight, it's your job, or the fact that you don't have a relationship. My boyfriend told me very clearly one day, "If it's not one thing, it's another with you." That was a rude awakening.
                        -Surround yourself with like-minded people. Go to motivational events and make friends. Talk to strangers (unless they are in an unmarked van).
                        -Stop judging other people that don't live the same lifestyle or "see the light." I'll admit this is going to be a lifetime challenge for me. Newsflash: Old me and new me ARE the same person. I can stop acting like "she" didn't exist. The only way I can actually get passed feeling shame about who I used to be is to LOVE everything about her.
                        *When I wasn't worried about losing weight; I was the life of the party, the comedic relief, and the loudest laugher in the room (also the sweatiest, but you know, whatever).*
                        -Last but not least, stop waiting to be perfect to put yourself out there.

                        Once I got my health and energy right with primal food as my main fuel, I was finally able to work on all of the mental/spiritual shit that I was going through. THAT is what it takes to make this work long-term.

                        I obviously will always be a work in progress, but today feels pretty damn good. I wrote in a forum for the first time, not because I think I know it all. I did it because it's helping me heal. One day at a time, friends! PLEASE reply if you want to comment on any of my rambling

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                        • Originally posted by MarisaLo View Post
                          ... here are the most important tools I have acquired:

                          -You've got to quiet your mind and stop freakin' comparing your life and body to everyone else. Seriously, there is a little thing on Facebook where you can "unsubscribe" to people. No de-friending needed. If seeing someone else's "perfectly, shiny" life makes you feel down and dull....DO IT. No harm, no foul.
                          -If it's not your weight, it's your job, or the fact that you don't have a relationship. My boyfriend told me very clearly one day, "If it's not one thing, it's another with you." That was a rude awakening.
                          -Surround yourself with like-minded people. Go to motivational events and make friends. Talk to strangers (unless they are in an unmarked van).
                          -Stop judging other people that don't live the same lifestyle or "see the light." I'll admit this is going to be a lifetime challenge for me. Newsflash: Old me and new me ARE the same person. I can stop acting like "she" didn't exist. The only way I can actually get passed feeling shame about who I used to be is to LOVE everything about her.
                          *When I wasn't worried about losing weight; I was the life of the party, the comedic relief, and the loudest laugher in the room (also the sweatiest, but you know, whatever).*
                          -Last but not least, stop waiting to be perfect to put yourself out there.

                          Once I got my health and energy right with primal food as my main fuel, I was finally able to work on all of the mental/spiritual shit that I was going through. THAT is what it takes to make this work long-term.
                          I like it! (especially "Talk to strangers (unless they are in an unmarked van)"!!)

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                          • thank you guys for this thread, it has brought me in from the edge yet, again! I am dealing with stress , and it really is terrible on your body! I recently had a slight downturn (only temporary)of my stressor( it is financial), but in that span I lost 26 lbs! so, it is proof to me that when i improve my situation, my body reaction for the better will return.

                            a question I have is . you all say eat when hungry , don't when not. I am never hungry anymore. and my mental quandary is, I have a fantastic frittata daily . loaded with spinach and at least two -four other veggies. 3 jumbo eggs,bacon. after this meal , I usually do not need dinner, usually force myself to eat it . why? well, all the blogs say, "make sure you are eating enough or your weight loss will stall. mine is in a constant stall.
                            IF is so easy to do , but i fear it? another reason, lately for eating stuff. a piece of fruit some, yogurt, piece of chocolate is to make sure I am eating enough , but I think it is really just the stress. to add to my stress is a few RA issues and old joint injuries are severely hampering my work outs in a real negative way.

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                            • I just wanted to say thank you for this post.

                              I'm on day 2 of eating Primal. I'm hoping it will help with the pain/inflammation from my RA.

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                              • great thread for us newbies

                                I'm going primal primarily for weightloss initially as I have at least 40lb to lose, I understand I should limit the amount of fruit I eat (which is going to be hard as I'm used to snacking on lots of fruit), should I be counting calories/carbs/fat?

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