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  • Is raw meat more primal than cooked meat?

    Grok ate more raw meat than cooked meat judging by anthropological studies. What have forum members experiences been with consuming meat raw? Raw eggs, dairy etc?

    I ate some raw chicken breasts this morning and it was a primal experience thats for sure! I think I could get used to this.

    Does anyone here go hunting regularly?

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    I don't think that raw meat is any more primal. If you are out stabbing game animals and you're hungry you may just eat some raw meat before you drag it back to your home but cooking is preferred since it softens the tissue and you absorb more of it. That book "Catching Fire" is downright plausible in that cooking meat helps us get more energy from it. And I would wager that the incredible potential for longevity of humans is due to adaptation to cooking food - we are endogenous antioxidant machines if we get the proper nutrition. There is some animal flesh like sashimi that it might not matter so much for, and hey maybe a little raw meat is a good thing, although I don't have any reasons why it might be.
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    • #3
      Yeah Ive read that book recently but I was thinking that humans are the only creatures that cook their food and do other animals do?

      These are the points Id like to debate.

      *Heating destroys protein chains

      *Heating makes fats rancid

      *Heating destroys vitamin b12

      So what to people do about this? Do people take a b12 supp?

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      • #4
        Here I go feeding a troll.

        I cok my beef very rare. Long enough to kill any bacteria that might make me ill, but quick enough that the inside is still cold. Perfect solution
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        • #5
          Grok wouldn't go to the market and get some cold meat and eat it. Grok would kill an animal and get right down in it and start drinking the warm fresh blood and munching on organs. So that is what I suggest you do.

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          • #6
            i wouldn't say it's anymore primal than cooked. i do like raw liver and stew meat from time to time. don't know about the chicken though
            Red meat is not bad for you. Now blue-green meat, that's bad for you! ~Tommy Smothers

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            • #7
              I've seen raw liver mentioned on the board a few times. I enjoy the occasional raw venison, beef or pork (local, not store bought) but liver is a bit hard to wrap my brain around. Maybe I'll snag a bit before I make stew. I'll admit, I'm nervous- lol.

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              • #8
                Any Groks eating raw meat were eating it fresh-killed, not days or weeks down the supply line like many of us must. I cook most meat for safety and texture reasons.
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                • #9
                  Tomorrow night, Tuesday, 7 SEP, on PBS there is a show called something like "Becoming Human". I have a feeling that it will be full of some good information about what the primal or proto man ate that caused the increase in intelligence. I plan to use the TV that night. Perhaps the question about raw or cooked food will be answered.
                  Last edited by periquin; 09-06-2010, 03:41 AM. Reason: typo
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                  • #10
                    OMG but TV isn't primal!! :C ... no seriously, sounds interesting, I bet that'll come up.

                    If cooking isn't primal, it's sure as heck in my 20%. (except for really good sashimi, I'm a sucker for that.)
                    "Trust me, you will soon enter a magical land full of delicious steakflowers, with butterbacons fluttering around over the extremely rompable grass and hillsides."

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                    • #11
                      troll alert, i believe.
                      Even if you fall flat on your face, at least you're moving forward!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Donk View Post
                        Grok ate more raw meat.....
                        Ask here:
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by periquin View Post
                          Tomorrow night, Tuesday, 7 SEP, on PBS there is a show called something like "Becoming Human". I have a feeling that it will be full of some good information about what the primal or proto man ate that caused the increase in intelligence. I plan to use the TV that night. Perhaps the question about raw or cooked food will be answered.
                          It was really good and did mention cooking but it wasn't a big section. For anyone interested it is on youtube permanently. http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...A395506823CCBC
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                          Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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                          • #14
                            I eat my eggs raw as I don't feel good with cooked eggs. I eat my beef raw as it just tastes better this way and has more fats when compared to cooked beef. Actually I just ate raw beef pieces with 3 raw egg yolks mixed with garlic/parsley. Freakish good !

                            But about the topic, there is truth in heated fats and there is truth in cooked food. Although if anyone has tried to eat raw meat from the bone knows that getting it off the bone is quite hard. Grok would have got much more food from the bone when he cooked it.
                            Last edited by jarnapal; 09-06-2010, 10:47 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Donk View Post
                              Grok ate more raw meat than cooked meat judging by anthropological studies.
                              Which ones are you judging from?

                              What have forum members experiences been with consuming meat raw? Raw eggs, dairy etc?
                              I don't care a lot for steak tartare, although I like my steaks very rare. Raw egg yolks don't seem that different from the yolks of lightly cooked fried eggs to me. Raw dairy I like - it's usually tastier, IMO.

                              Does anyone here go hunting regularly?
                              No, and actually I've never done it. Our previous government banned it: they said it was cruel to the foxes or something. There's increasing sentimentality over here, but probably that was just an excuse, and it was actually a sop to the far left, which sees hunting as a socially-privileged activity. It still goes on, but I think they're not supposed to actually make kills; OTOH, I expect the police have better things to do than to check on the hunt.

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