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    Why is insulin sometimes portrayed as a fat storage hormone, but other times, insulin is said to be used for building muscle? I know that sometimes bodybuilders will abuse insulin to "cheat" their way to easy muscle growth. How does it work that insulin can do both? How do I get insulin to work toward my goals and not against them?

    -rxc

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    You bribe it with candy.
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    • #3
      +1
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      • #4
        Originally posted by rxc View Post
        How does it work that insulin can do both?
        Most hormones do lots of things. How it works is both muscles and fat cells have insulin receptors. It's a hormone that works to increase body storage and growth in general, both fat and muscles. And lots of other effects.

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        • #5
          I don't quite understand it, but this seems pretty thorough: http://www.steroid.com/Insulin.php
          29 years old, type 1 diabetic with insulin resistance -- HORRIBLE a1c, and borderline cholesterol problems. Carb addict.

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          • #6
            bump... i am interested in this discusson if anyone has anything to offer... where molecular grok biologist at???
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            • #7
              Originally posted by avocado View Post
              Most hormones do lots of things. How it works is both muscles and fat cells have insulin receptors. It's a hormone that works to increase body storage and growth in general, both fat and muscles. And lots of other effects.
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              Insulin in particular does a billion different things.
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              • #8
                Like everyone said all hormones do multiple things. Especially hormones like insulin, cortisol, and adrenaline, which are necessary for life. But the question you asked is simple:

                Insulin stores nutrients. Whether you think so or not, storing fat is storing calories and nutrients. So is building muscle. People might throw their spin on it, but in the end, it's a storage hormone.
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                • #9
                  how does inulin relate to glucose relate to anabolism?
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                  • #10
                    High blood glucose -> insulin release -> anabolism.
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                    • #11
                      what if the insulin is not released in response to carbs?
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                      • #12
                        I can only reply as a diabetic. But if I inject myself with insulin, and I don't either have a high blood sugar and/or eat carbs to cover the insulin, the insulin will shuttle a proportionate amount of sugar out of my blood into fat cells, and leave me without enough sugar in my blood to feed my brain. I will have a hypoglycemic episode. Depending on the severity, I may just need to eat a little sugar. I may need assistance from my husband, or the EMTs. I may have to go to the hospital for a glucose drip if its bad enough. I can go into a coma, possibly forever (my mom was in one for 3 days, and delusional for 4 more after she woke up because of low blood sugar). And if its really horrible, and I get no help, I can die.
                        29 years old, type 1 diabetic with insulin resistance -- HORRIBLE a1c, and borderline cholesterol problems. Carb addict.

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                        • #13
                          What I drew from that was that insulin causes both muscles to anabolism and fat to be stored. So, you can overload the insulin system by injecting yourself with more but to avoid the corresponding fat storage you'll need other chemicals to prevent it. I suppose that that does make sense on some level. After carbs protein comes second in causing insulin to increase.
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                          • #14
                            @daemonized

                            Bingo! That is why roids are done in "stacks" and cycles. Also why insulin is only used in the bulking phase.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Daemonized View Post
                              What I drew from that was that insulin causes both muscles to anabolism and fat to be stored. So, you can overload the insulin system by injecting yourself with more but to avoid the corresponding fat storage you'll need other chemicals to prevent it. I suppose that that does make sense on some level. After carbs protein comes second in causing insulin to increase.
                              so where does fat play into this?
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