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  • How important is it to eliminate nightshades (peppers in particular)?

    I've been able to say goodbye to grains, legumes, dairy, nuts, and limit my fruit consumption. The one thing I really love too much are peppers. I can do without the other nightshades; tomatoes are high in carbs, eggplants are nasty, and I haven't touched a potato since I learned of its glycemic index/load. But peppers are a great addition to the primal diet. I like occasional bell peppers in my omeletes and stir fries, and I like dried pepper spices (cayenne, crushed red pepper, etc). Do you think these are relatively harmless considering I cut out the other neolithic culprits?

  • #2
    I'd say they are fine.

    When you get to the point of worrying about peppers, you win

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    • #3
      What's the problem with peppers?
      Starting Weight : 338lbs 6/11/2010
      Current Weight: 266lbs
      High-school Weight: 235lbs
      Goal: ????

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      • #4
        i eliminated nightshades last summer as an experiment. apparently there are chemicals that some people can't break down from tom. pep. eggplant pot. etc. no difference for me. i eat 'em up w/no problems:-) if you get arthritic pain from eating them then maybe cut 'em out for awhile. we'll be left with NOTHING to eat if we keep this up;-)
        Red meat is not bad for you. Now blue-green meat, that's bad for you! ~Tommy Smothers

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        • #5
          Originally posted by arthurb999 View Post
          I'd say they are fine.

          When you get to the point of worrying about peppers, you win
          +1!

          @Russ: Paleo followers state that tomatoes and peppers are part of the nightshade family and because of that help contribute to unhealthy conditions such as joint deterioration. I'm afraid I don't much more than that.

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          • #6
            Nightshades can be gut irritants and contribute to auto-immune issues! Tolerating a food, is not necessarily an optimal condition!

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            • #7
              Tomatoes are not high in carbs in any meaningful sense and moderate amount, btw. Glycemic load is far more important than the abstraction of glycemic index ... tomatoes are mostly water. Just sayin', because I can't imagine giving up such a tasty and versatile vegetable unless I had a very strong reason to think it didn't agree with me. I like eggplant too, although I don't have it that often.

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              • #8
                I am completely and hopelessly addicted to habanero and bhut jolokia peppers. I eat them every day on anything that have with meat or eggs. I wouldn't be able to quit even if I wanted to. (and I don't)
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                • #9
                  I think if we really tried we could find something negative to say about most any food we eat.

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                  • #10
                    Nutrition in a vacuum, gotta love it.........as in everything bad for us, we need to keep context and dosage in mind, otherwise just reading this has elevated my cortisol levels and will die soon. j/k
                    Whether you think you can..... or you think you can't..... your 100 % correct.

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                    • #11
                      I am, admittedly, very ignorant on the research and information regarding this subject, but I have one opinion/question. The tomato/pepper/eggplant are the fruit of the plant and not the plant itself. Isn't the point of a fruiting plant that it's fruits be edible to help spread the seeds for propagation of the species? From what I understand about the nightshades is that the alkaloids exist in the plants to stop animals from eating the plants themselves, but not in the fruit. Can anyone point me in the right direction to studies or statistics that show how much of the alkaloids are in the fruit part of the plant?

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                      • #12
                        not very

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                        • #13
                          hardcore paleos will tell you that nightshades are bad. Another difference between the primal/paleo lifestyle.
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                          • #14
                            Just as folks become irritated by Paleo dogma (rigid elimination of nightshades, dairy, legumes, etc.... all foods that can be seen as "fine in moderation" even in a Primal context) recommending blanket eliminations of a food group/source/type, it can be irritating to see blind acceptance of foods (for instance nightshades) as perfectly fine.

                            It is very easy to examine the results of inclusion/elimination of any particular food for one's self. Perhaps a minor joint pain, digestion niggle, or inflammation issue is not aided by typical Primal nutrition, so perhaps eliminating nightshades for a month will resolve it, easy peasy, give that a shot. As Robb Wolf would say, ".... see how you look, feel and perform..." and make the choices yourself!

                            Good to question nightshades/any food group! Heck, rub your eyes after slicing a hot pepper, OUCH! imagine that reaction in the sensitive GI tract!

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                            • #15
                              I think you only have to worry about it if you think it's giving you issues.

                              I have cut them out recently (though I love them) because I am having some serious gut issues and am trying to cut out everything that seems to exacerbate that. When my gut issues are better I'll try them again, to be sure...

                              Like everything else everyone is different, nightshades are just one of the groups that SOME people have reactions to, so it's good to know about it.
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