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  • How long does it take to feel "normal" again after dropping the carbs?

    I'm a huge carb and sugar addict, I know. Cereal for breakfast, sandwiches for lunch, dinners where meat is a condiment rather than the main source of calories. I mostly got into that habit trying to feed a family of 5 on a college student's budget but now I can't break it...

    I've been trying to go primal for... a month? Two maybe? I can never seem to get past two or three days without having a mid-afternoon (or late evening) crash and ending up downing a couple of bowls of that awful honeybunchesofcrack my husband won't stop buying. Or even if that's not here, toast or a bagel or anything else full of carbs.

    I eat plenty of fat... Bacon, eggs, butter, steak, chicken (not just the breast), whole milk in my tea, cream in my coffee, fatty fish when I can afford it. Lots of vegetables and a decent amount of fruit but not tons... I take fish oil and vit D and a few other things. I would cut out the caffeine but it's really not that much. One cup of coffee and maybe 2 cups of tea on a bad day. Usually just one of each.

    I feel like I'm eating all day and yet I'm STILL hungry. I feel weak and shaky and maybe it's a blood sugar thing but I don't know how to fix it besides giving in to the carb and sugar cravings.

    What kind of calorie and carb/fat/protein level should I be aiming for as a 24 year old, 5'6", 165lb female (who'd love to lose 20 pounds!). I'm nursing but my daughter is two and only nurses a few times a day. I logged my food yesterday and had eaten 2000 calories (140g carbs, all from non-grain sources) but still went to bed hungry.

    I admit to not having the primal blueprint book on hand... I've read through some of it, but I have three kids and not a whole lot of reading time.

    Thoughts? I really feel like I just suck at this Since I started I've already gained back 5 pounds that I had lost earlier this year, so obviously I'm not doing it right.

    Thanks,
    Alyssa

  • #2
    Sorry that my first post here was so long-winded! I've been lurking and reading but the only answer to this dilemma I could seem to find is to eat more fat and it just doesn't seem to be working so far...

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    • #3
      PB suggest taking the carbs below 100 grams for the type of weight loss you seek. Increase the proteins and fats to make the hunger subside. A lot of what you are feeling may be psychological. It didn't matter how stuffed I was for awhile, meals just didn't seem complete without pasta, bread, potatoes and/or dessert. It does go away eventually. Some of us do better having something later at night so we don't go to bed hungry. I skip breakfast easily when I do that and the fat burning power of intermittent fasting goes to work for me.

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      • #4
        doesnt nursing burn like, crazy amounts of calories? Ive read it burns 500 cals a day........ if youre only eating 2000 you could be crashing due to not enough cals. If you are still hungry, eat primal foods, as much as you want, just TRY to avoid the grain business, as eating that stuff is only making it harder on you. once you can push through that first week, it will be a lot easier. for the first week i would eat anything primal in sight to avoid eating junk grains.

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        • #5
          Eat Fat. Eat Coconut Oil when you feel the crash coming on. you have to battle through it, It's ALOT of a mental battle more than anything. Let yourself hunger, and eat fat. Eventually it will go away. I had carb flu for about 3 weeks.

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          • #6
            The way I see it, every time you feed that need for a fix with carbs, you are actively keeping yourself on that blood sugar rollercoaster for another few days. Don't feed it. Feed yourself with primal foods (I agree with lmyers about eating anything and everything primal in sight, it's totally worth it to be off of the rollercoaster) and once the sugar/carb/crack issues are behind you, the hunger issue may take care of itself. It did for me. I forced myself to do whatever I could to avoid staying on the damn rollercoaster - even knowing that I might gain a little because I knew that once I came off, I wouldn't be a slave to my blood sugar and carb cravings anymore. I am SO glad I did. I feel incredible and have lost 5 lbs. Even if I hadn't lost the 5 lbs, it would still be worth it because I feel so much better. It's almost like the weight loss is just a perk. I'll take it!
            Life is not a matter of having good cards, but of playing a poor hand well.

            - Robert Louis Stevenson

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            • #7
              When I went Primal I used a pretty simple trick, never go hungry, at least for the first week or two. If you think your starting to get hungry eat, Primal foods. Personally I kept dry roasted mixed nuts handy and if I had a craving I ate a handful or two. Once you adjust to to the low carbs it will be easy to manage your diet better, but you have to get off the carb roller coaster first.

              My wife went Primal and used the same method successfully.
              Strive for healthy today.

              Satisfaction is the death of desire.

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              • #8
                I actually have been trying to stay under the 100g for carbs but it's so hard! Up until now my tactic has been to have a piece of fruit when it gets really bad, figuring that at least it isn't grains, but perhaps that isn't helping either? Looking at yesterday, that's what the extra carbs came from. (Mmmm farmer's market peaches!) I need to boil some more eggs for quick snacking I think.

                I guess, also, I'm scared to go above 2000cals because of the fear of gaining weight. I've been stuck at this exact weight since my daughter was a week old, no joke, and to add more to it would probably send me off the deep end. I was even nursing TWO kids for her first year and STILL didn't lose a pound (although I'm sure all the oreos and stress-eating didn't help either LOL).

                I'm glad to hear that some of you have struggled through this as well... It's so hard to see the other end from here.
                Thanks for the replies

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lys View Post
                  Up until now my tactic has been to have a piece of fruit when it gets really bad, figuring that at least it isn't grains, but perhaps that isn't helping either? Looking at yesterday, that's what the extra carbs came from. (Mmmm farmer's market peaches!)
                  Got to watch the fruit, it makes your blood sugar spike which will keep you from losing fat as fast.

                  If you don't have allergies to them Macadamia nuts are a great snack, high in fat to help curb the hunger.
                  "I am a member of PETA...People Eat Tasty Animals"

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                  • #10
                    Lys, just another quick comment - this might be encouraging to you. When I stopped nursing my daughter, I lost almost 10 lbs and that was the only thing that changed. My sister did the same exact thing. Our bodies held onto those last couple of lbs until we were no longer demanding milk from it. Not everyone loses weight nursing - many do, but not all! That may very well be what your body does when your nursing days are over.
                    Life is not a matter of having good cards, but of playing a poor hand well.

                    - Robert Louis Stevenson

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                    • #11
                      ITA that you may be holding on to weight because of the nursing. I nursed 4 kids and I NEVER lost weight until they were weaned. It's just how my body works.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lys View Post
                        I actually have been trying to stay under the 100g for carbs but it's so hard! Up until now my tactic has been to have a piece of fruit when it gets really bad, figuring that at least it isn't grains, but perhaps that isn't helping either? Looking at yesterday, that's what the extra carbs came from. (Mmmm farmer's market peaches!) I need to boil some more eggs for quick snacking I think.

                        I guess, also, I'm scared to go above 2000cals because of the fear of gaining weight. I've been stuck at this exact weight since my daughter was a week old, no joke, and to add more to it would probably send me off the deep end. I was even nursing TWO kids for her first year and STILL didn't lose a pound (although I'm sure all the oreos and stress-eating didn't help either LOL).

                        I'm glad to hear that some of you have struggled through this as well... It's so hard to see the other end from here.
                        Thanks for the replies
                        reach for protein when you feel the urge to eat.


                        you must realize that by eating grains you are causing your body's fat burners to constantly be dealing with carbohydrates, and not burning fat as fuel.

                        to get your body to more easily turn to fat for its fuel, you must first eliminate the grains. Even a bowl of cereal here and there during moments of weakness are going to put the brakes on this fat-burning process, and not only will your insulin levels spike, encouraging more fat storage, you will never be able to break out of this cycle and move on with your primal health and weightloss. No pain, no gain......and the good news is once the pain is over, you get to feel much better afterwards!!!! Keep trying!

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                        • #13
                          Day three fail.

                          Once again I crashed on day three. I took a nap with the kids because I only got 5 hours of sleep last night, woke up to a miserable, tantruming toddler, and ended up self-medicating with cereal and sunchips.

                          GRRRRR. I tried eat a good filling breakfast... three eggs cooked in bacon fat and cream in my (decaf) coffee but I guess I slept through lunch and woke up too hungry to be able to make good decisions.

                          Sigh. I wish I could keep the stuff out of the house all together until I get through this but the husband doesn't understand and to be honest, I probably wouldn't feel right asking him to stop buying it until I could SHOW proof of PB working.

                          My food log shows me at 167grams of carbs for the day and it's only 2pm. Guess it could be worse but at this rate I'm just going to GAIN weight because of the carbs + higher fat right? Even if I stay around 2000cal?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lys View Post
                            Once again I crashed on day three. I took a nap with the kids because I only got 5 hours of sleep last night, woke up to a miserable, tantruming toddler, and ended up self-medicating with cereal and sunchips.

                            GRRRRR. I tried eat a good filling breakfast... three eggs cooked in bacon fat and cream in my (decaf) coffee but I guess I slept through lunch and woke up too hungry to be able to make good decisions.

                            Sigh. I wish I could keep the stuff out of the house all together until I get through this but the husband doesn't understand and to be honest, I probably wouldn't feel right asking him to stop buying it until I could SHOW proof of PB working.

                            My food log shows me at 167grams of carbs for the day and it's only 2pm. Guess it could be worse but at this rate I'm just going to GAIN weight because of the carbs + higher fat right? Even if I stay around 2000cal?
                            no, weight gain happens on a gradual scale, not instantaneous or day-to-day. your body is capable of handling over-fueling just as it is capable of handling under-fueling for a while. As long as you are eating a normal amount of calories you should be fine for today. my advice is to get right back on track primally today, now, at this very instant. dont let this ruin your day. and try to have ready-to-eat primal foods around you! being hungry in a house full of junk grains is not going to get any easier....

                            as for asking your husband to stop buying junk food, how can you "show him proof" if you are constantly being tempted by these foods? its not fair.

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                            • #15
                              Thanks, lmyers. That's the plan, to jump right back on the wagon right now. I am determined to do this because I KNOW it's better for me and I know how awful I feel when my life is being run by the grain addiction. I have leftover steak and chicken in the fridge... not sure why I didn't grab that when I was feeling hungry. I do think I need to work on taking time to prepare food for myself. I'm so used to needing to eat quickly that even something like just heating up meat and cutting up some veggies seems like more work than it's worth sometimes.

                              Of course, on top of everything else, it's my four year old's birthday today too. I have to go make some chocolate frosting for his cake now LOL. We're not having a party, but he still really wanted a chocolate chip cake so I made a mini one. Figured that was better than having a whole sheet cake staring at me for a week.

                              So the question is... Can I resist the cake? I don't even like cake that much but chocolate is a weakness of mine, not to mention the feeling that I'm "missing out" on something we don't get to have that often! Which is kind of silly because it's not like it's hard to make cake if I really "want" it (which I don't). I need to get over that...

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