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  • ashamed to be primal? +metformin question

    Hi everyone,

    I have been eating vaguely low-carb off and on for the last year and a half, which helped break my former sugar addiction, as well as reverse the symptoms of PCOS/insulin resistance/pre-diabetes (along with metformin). I'm a 22 yo female (obviously, with pcos, ha) who has always been overweight, who was diagnosed at age 18 after a rapid weight gain of 30 pounds within less than a year. Eating fairly primally for a few months (or as much can be allowed in a college dining hall) last spring, I lost 15 pounds and stalled there after straying from Primal for the next year-- I think it was my mostly broken sugar addiction that kept me from gaining all that weight back.

    Now I cook for myself and have dedicated myself wholly to living primally. However, I know it will take time, and in the meantime, I'm still visibly overweight (5'2", 167 pounds, with the unfortunate pcos tendency to gather fat around the middle). I feel rather silly sometimes telling people who notice my weight loss and ask if I've been working out a lot (for some reason, that's what they assume) that I mostly changed my diet. Luckily not too many of them press me for details. But then there's going to the supermarket on my way home from a yoga class, in what kind of looks like workout clothing, with bacon, eggs, and butter in my cart and feeling self-conscious. I feel like people must be thinking, "No wonder she's so fat!" The irony is, having grown up in an Indian household (with a vegetarian mother!), I never ate bacon until college (and I thought it was gross since it was basically cooked 'til it became carcinogens, now I've acquired a taste for the bacon that I cook), and she also -being health-conscious- would get rid of the egg yolks and not use butter (now she's fine with using olive oil). I know, I know, I shouldn't embarrassed by what I eat, but I guess it's a lifetime of self-esteem issues tied to diet and body weight at work here. I was wondering, does anyone else ever feel this way, and how do/did you deal with it?

    Also, I was wondering if any of you had recommendations about decreasing metformin dosage (it's currently at 2000 mg per day). I'm worried that if I stop taking it after almost three years of taking it almost-regularly, I will balloon up again. But I know that I'm probably using it as a crutch by now, and also that as long as I regulate my blood sugar with Primal, I shouldn't be too worried. I definitely want to slowly decrease dosage, and start doing that soon though. Does anyone have any experiences of going off metformin here?

  • #2
    I totally get your self consciousness wrt shopping and what you eat. I also feel like I need to start losing weight and having people see it before I let them know I am eating full fats, lots of red meat etc. I too have PCOS and IR and am on 1000mg of Glucophage at night. It never helped me lose weight and I have read that it most often doesn't lead to weight loss (unless the person follows a calorie restricted diet).

    If you want to get off it, I would wean off 500mg at a time and keep testing my sugar levels. Are you taking the 2000mg at night, or 1/2 in the am, 1/2 in the pm? 1-2 weeks of weaning down should work, but you may still need some help with insulin sensitivity, so keep checking your sugars.

    Good luck! I am still figuring out this whole primal thing and have yet to see any weight loss (but am not doing it 100% yet).

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    • #3
      I have found that a good phrase to repeat to yourself every so often is "What other people think of me is none of my business."

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      • #4
        We would worry less what other people thought if we realized how seldom they do.

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        • #5
          I have very similar numbers (I'm 5'1 and was up to 166 at one point) and I also have a lot of PCOS symptoms, so I can definitely relate.

          Anyway, I did my first primal shopping trip last week and although I had fatty food in my cart, I also had a ton of vegetables, so I didn't feel overly self-conscious about it. Plus, I have to consider the fact that I don't often pay attention to what other people are buying, so they are probably not paying attention to me... You know what you are doing is right for you, especially considering the PCOS, so anyone who might be judging can go jump in a lake of high-fructose corn syrup.

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          • #6
            I actually feel a rush of pride when I hit the checkout stand with beef, fish, coconut milk, bacon, eggs, raw milk, some veggies, etc.

            It's great.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Roach View Post
              I actually feel a rush of pride when I hit the checkout stand with beef, fish, coconut milk, bacon, eggs, raw milk, some veggies, etc.

              It's great.
              +1.
              It's pretty cool to have my fatty cart rolling around while wearing size 2/4 pants. I always sort of snerk and giggle a bit at the looks of dumbfoundedness I get.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Harry View Post
                We would worry less what other people thought if we realized how seldom they do.
                +1

                @ imasin - I have learned over the years that I often would project my anxieties/fears onto others and think "what will they think", but as Harry rightly points out, THEY rarely notice or care what I was most concerned about. You should examine your concern about the people in the grocery store, it may be more that you are concerned what your mother may think.

                If you have really committed yourself to the primal lifestyle, then you will have to deal with your concerns. Get educated and be assertive.

                The community here is terrific; supportive but frank. There are very knowlegable people with the answers you are looking for.

                I wish you well and sucess on your jouney to health.
                "I am a member of PETA...People Eat Tasty Animals"

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                • #9
                  What really throws people is when they notice you losing weight while eating such wonderful fatty foods. They can't seem to understand it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by meepster View Post
                    I have found that a good phrase to repeat to yourself every so often is "What other people think of me is none of my business."

                    This is great! I love it...
                    Heather and the hounds - Make a Fast Friend, Adopt a Greyhound!

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                    • #11
                      I am over 50 and grew up eating bacon and eggs, whole milk, real butter, and butter on all vegetables. My mom kept a coffee can into which she poured off all the bacon grease after cooking bacon, so we always had a ready supply of bacon fat to use for frying and seasoning. My favorite sandwiches for lunch were peanut butter and BUTTER. I ate all the fat on my porkchops and the chicken skin was the best part. AFter reaching adulthood, I changed my diet to conform to all the low-fat health dictates put out by our medical and government agencies. I drank skim milk, carefully cut off the fat from steaks and chops, and bought boneless/skinless chicken. Now that I am eating primally, I am back to eating the way I grew up eating (minus the bread and pasta) and it feels NORMAL!!!! It is like waking up from a nightmare. I just want you to know that eating butter and bacon and fried eggs and cream was the completely normal way to eat in the not too distant past. I know you are too young to have any experience with this so it must feel especially abnormal to you. You body knows it is normal and nourishing to eat high fat, whole, unprocessed foods. Just pay more attention to your body's responses to your primal diet than to your mind's concerns about being out of step with the mainstream thinking on this. Look at how much obesity and diabetes the conventional SAD is causing and think more about that as you shop and pay for your food. Think about how delicious your food is going to taste instead of about what the checkout person might be thinking. They are probably thinking that the bacon looks mighty tasty anyways!!

                      Learning to make the choices that are best for us and disregarding the potential judgements of others is a key task of becoming your own person. We all have to learn to do this, and if it weren't around the weight and diet issues for you, it would be around something else. The freedom we experience when we get past worrying what other people think is worth it.

                      "What other people think of me if none of my business." Best advice given.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Harry View Post
                        We would worry less what other people thought if we realized how seldom they do.
                        +1

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by imasin View Post
                          Hi everyone,

                          But then there's going to the supermarket on my way home from a yoga class, in what kind of looks like workout clothing, with bacon, eggs, and butter in my cart and feeling self-conscious. I feel like people must be thinking, "No wonder she's so fat!"
                          I don't need to lose anymore weight, and I still feel people giving me looks at the grocery store when looking in my cart, however its more of the "that stuff'll kill you" look. Sometimes it's frustrating when the person is overweight and holding a loaf of bread, low fat cereal, low fat milk, low fat fat even.

                          I just smile, and secretly hope they say something.

                          Point being, it's their problem, not yours.

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                          • #14
                            I worked the checkout line at a grocery store during college for a while, and I can honestly tell you that most of the people working there don't notice what you buy. Your fellow shoppers are also usually so absorbed in their own world that they don't notice what other people are buying.

                            However, since I turned Primal I notice what other people are buying much more often than I used to.

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                            • #15
                              I always wondered if the people at my local grocery store saw me as the creepy meat guy or something because for a while every night I would go there and purchase some form of meat or eggs and that was it. I stopped shopping there for a few months and when I came back the only person that noticed i had stopped shopping there was the butcher! And only cuz I pestered him whenever I could for more organs.

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