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  • Disturbing symptoms -- sudden-onset weakness, clumsiness -- possible causes???

    Seemingly out of nowhere today, I began to have serious coordination problems and pronounced weakness. Activities that had been routine suddenly became extremely challenging and dangerous. I have been able to think of 3 changes that I've made in my diet and supplementation regimen in the last few days, which *may* (or may not be) the cause of this problem (which happened in late afternoon, after a normal morning):

    a) I had been taking 12.5 mg of iodine every day, but after reading Mark's recent MDA blog post on the dangers of taking such a high dose without having diagnosed thyroid problems, I stopped taking it (3 days ago).

    b) I began taking Primal Defense probiotic 1-2x/day (on an empty stomach, as recommended by the packaging) (3 days ago). Before I started this brand, I had been taking a different brand (Healthy Origins), 1-2x/day.

    c) I attended a party yesterday, at which I ate certain foods that likely contained MSG, and had some of the leftovers for breakfast this morning. Note that I've never experienced serious MSG sensitivity at any point in the past, except for one headache, once. I don't make a habit of eating MSG-laden foods, of course, but I do use my "time off" from primal eating to indulge in certain foods that do contain it (e.g. major-chain pizza, etc.). Again, I've never had a serious reaction to MSG in the past (although, now that I think about it, I *did* stop eating Chinese food because my finger joints would swell up noticeably after eating it...).

    I'm just hoping to hear people's thoughts about this. I'm hoping to hear that it's impossible/very unlikely that it's the new probiotic that would be causing these symptoms, as I've read many glowing reviews of this product. Is there a chance that these symptoms could be a "healing crisis" from the probiotics? From what I've read, healing crises tend to have more cold- or flulike symptoms, rather than mimicing the onset of a multiple sclerosis attack... I'm just really hoping that this problem resolves by itself. It would be good to know how to avoid a recurrence in the future.

    Thanks for your input.
    Last edited by healthseekerKate; 07-12-2010, 06:04 PM.

  • #2
    Sudden "serious coordination problems and pronounced weakness" ...

    Soooooooooooooo not something to mess with. Get to an ER.

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    • #3
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      • #4
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        • #5
          Yes, go to the doctor right away.

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          • #6
            Im more inclined it has to do with that high of an iodine intake and then suddenly dropping it. Could of had some effect on the thyroid.

            How long were you on that 12.5 mg dosage, and damn that is high. But I shouldn't criticize without more info.
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            • #7
              And if you are going to the doctor, don't drive yourself. Get a cab or something.
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              • #8
                this sounds WAY too much like a stroke for my tastes. please get a ride to the ER. even if it turns out to be from the dietary changes, better safe than dead.

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                • #9
                  Going to the doctor is not an option. As someone who already has a degenerative neuromuscular disorder, I am well aware of how useless modern medicine is, unless you have a traumatic injury that requires surgery or other mechanical solution.

                  Thanks for the advice, but my symptoms are not life-threatening. They appear to be neurological in nature (and not the typical characteristics of my other disorder), hopefully temporary, and the more I think about it, my guess would be that it's MSG sensitivity.

                  Fyi, I had been taking the 12.5 mg of iodine because I had suspected, based on several symptoms, that I had a thyroid deficiency. I had read about the diets of the Japanese, who *do* ingest these levels of iodine every day (via seaweed)... but what I didn't know, until Mark's blog post, was that soy products block the absorption of iodine, so that these high levels in their diets were likely not being processed by their bodies the way they would in someone such as myself who eats no soy.

                  I am going to see how this plays out. I'm hoping that with a good night's sleep, these symptoms may disappear by tomorrow. I'll report back.

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                  • #10
                    yep. cab to the doctor. go.

                    ps. be careful about self medicating. Just cos you can buy something from the health food store and it's 'recommended' doesn't mean its right for you. You could easily have undiagnosed thyroid issues that you've just screwed with. These 'harmless vitamins' are often in fact quite powerful and create significant metabolic changes. (vitamin D case in point.)
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                    • #11
                      I guess Im not worried as much about the dosage as I am as going from that much everyday consistently to something much lower. I feel like that would be a severe shock to the thyroid gland, but I might be underestimating its' efficiency.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by healthseekerKate View Post
                        Going to the doctor is not an option. As someone who already has a degenerative neuromuscular disorder, I am well aware of how useless modern medicine is, unless you have a traumatic injury that requires surgery or other mechanical solution.

                        Thanks for the advice, but my symptoms are not life-threatening. They appear to be neurological in nature
                        WTF? Sure modern medicine is useless for some conditions, but if I'm having an MI or a stroke GET ME TO AN ER! Heaven's above. 'Not life threatening' and 'neurological in nature' in the one sentence?

                        FFS.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by EGYnutrition View Post
                          I guess Im not worried as much about the dosage as I am as going from that much everyday consistently to something much lower. I feel like that would be a severe shock to the thyroid gland, but I might be underestimating its' efficiency.
                          I'd have to agree.

                          Has anyone ever been on prednisone then tried to taper off?

                          I have. I thought I was literally going to die from the depressed adrenocortical function even though I was tapering as directed. Finally I was able to call to dh to run downstairs (I couldn't really even move let alone walk) and get my prednisone.

                          Dropping that much iodine that rapidly is signficant.



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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by healthseekerKate View Post
                            Thanks for the advice, but my symptoms are not life-threatening.
                            I'm sure you can see why using describing it all as disturbing, sudden, serious, pronounced and dangerous made people think it could be life threatening. I'm glad you're better than you made it sound. Truly.

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for your input, everyone. I was hoping I'd hear from you, cillakat. I will have to rethink the cold-turkey approach to stopping the iodine...

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