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  • #76
    I didn't see this in any of the replies but how effective is magnesium ascorbate? Mineralsinc.com states that it is more bioavailable and has a better gastrointestinal tolerance due to it being more natural.

    Link: Magnesium Ascorbate....WRITE UP

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    • #77
      Originally posted by zizou View Post
      I think i am finally magnesium deficient. To the point i think i need to take action and quickly. I have only my symptoms to go off, no formal diagnosis has been done but worryingly i posses a funny/annoying heart rythm, interrupted sleep, slight cramp/stiffness in my calves and don't know if slow nail growth is another factor.

      So obviously i'm most worried about the heart thing. I need some advice regarding on how should i approach my situation.
      I have never posted here, just lurked this last year or so, but saw this post and had to reply because I have this exact issue as well.

      The heart thing is so disconcerting isn't it? If I feel my pulse I can feel it skipping beats and beating erratically. For me it is at its worst in the summer and tapers away in the fall when the weather cools off.

      If I take 750mg of magnesium all at once my heart rhythm will usually fall back to normal within the hour. If it's been especially wonky the magnesium will make me very relaxed and sleepy once my heart has calmed down.

      I'm currently trying to take smaller amounts of magnesium throughout the day to see if I can just maintain. Nothing works to get my heart rate back to normal like a large dose though. I can tell when I'm really deficient when it doesn't affect my intestines at all.

      My sleep is very interrupted as well. I try to take 500mg at night to help with that, but I'm inconsistent about it and don't always notice a difference. I think my sleep issues are more due to stress or a combination of the two.

      Also, FWIW, my brother suffers from the heart thing too and what works for him is to sprinkle salt in his hand several times a day and lick it off. I joke that I am going to buy him a salt lick.

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      • #78
        the heart issue could just as easily be a sodium or potassium deficiency. I've started eating taking Celtic gray sea salt throughout the day with my water, and i think it's helping. there's really no way of knowing without lab tests. A relative of mine eats out frequently, and consumes a lot of salted nuts and other processed foods; yet he was sodium deficient.
        my primal journal:
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Primal-Journal

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
          Iirc, it's around 6 cups of raw chard (they cook down quite a bit) to get enough magnesium.
          Isn't this entirely dependent on the type of soil it was grown in though? thereby making the estimations just guesses at best? I mean, if you're seeing benefits from the whole foods and the supps don't agree with you then by all means, that's the better alternative. I just don't know if you can confidently say how much mag would be in chard/etc and always trust that. Especially if it's always coming from a different source and what not.

          Personally, I take about 400mg/day on average. I have just begun bringing mg citrate to work to take 200mg while I'm sitting here doing very little else. Then I take a larger dose post-workout, 400mg, and this time it's mg chelate (glycinate) per the suggestion of somebody I had a few training sessions with, who got his info from another reliable source (Ido Portal, who got it from Charles Poliquin - yeah he sells supps, I get it, but he presents studies and I don't buy from him so I don't care) then sometimes another 200mg before bed, but this is rare. I have certainly noticed improvements in muscle soreness and recovery. I can train more frequently which is great.

          As far as the loose stool goes, not a lot of that really. Spreading it out is the trick for me, if I had 800mg at night (never have, scared to!) it would be horrible the next morning.
          I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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          • #80
            Has anyone found that after a month or two of taking magnesium, your tolerance decreases? When I first started taking magnesium glycinate, I could tolerate 700mg (800mg = loose stools, ew). Then I had to back it down to 600mg, and now even 500mg is giving me side effects. What gives?? Is this indicative of having had a deficiency before, but now that I'm no longer deficient I can tolerate less supplemental magnesium?

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            • #81
              Originally posted by KimInGA View Post
              Has anyone found that after a month or two of taking magnesium, your tolerance decreases? When I first started taking magnesium glycinate, I could tolerate 700mg (800mg = loose stools, ew). Then I had to back it down to 600mg, and now even 500mg is giving me side effects. What gives?? Is this indicative of having had a deficiency before, but now that I'm no longer deficient I can tolerate less supplemental magnesium?
              Oh wait. I think I just figured it out. I just started keeping a perpetual batch of bone broth going and drinking two mugs per day, and bone broth is supposed to be a good source of magnesium (among many other things). Apparently this is enough to be giving me ~300mg magnesium? Wow. That's pretty impressive. Duck bones, who knew?

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              • #82
                I hate it that there is no reliable info on the nutritional content of a homemade bone broth. I'd like to think it has good calcium and magnesium levels. I think i need to limit to 1 cup though as i don't think more than that goes down too well with me, which is hard because i make a mean vegetable soup with beef broth.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by desertmama View Post
                  I have never posted here, just lurked this last year or so, but saw this post and had to reply because I have this exact issue as well.

                  The heart thing is so disconcerting isn't it? If I feel my pulse I can feel it skipping beats and beating erratically. For me it is at its worst in the summer and tapers away in the fall when the weather cools off.

                  If I take 750mg of magnesium all at once my heart rhythm will usually fall back to normal within the hour. If it's been especially wonky the magnesium will make me very relaxed and sleepy once my heart has calmed down.

                  I'm currently trying to take smaller amounts of magnesium throughout the day to see if I can just maintain. Nothing works to get my heart rate back to normal like a large dose though. I can tell when I'm really deficient when it doesn't affect my intestines at all.

                  My sleep is very interrupted as well. I try to take 500mg at night to help with that, but I'm inconsistent about it and don't always notice a difference. I think my sleep issues are more due to stress or a combination of the two.

                  Also, FWIW, my brother suffers from the heart thing too and what works for him is to sprinkle salt in his hand several times a day and lick it off. I joke that I am going to buy him a salt lick.
                  It is indeed, We're in winter now and i'm noticing it, don't know whether it'd be worse in summer. Do you feel safe taking the magnesium supplements? Have you had any diagnosis/confirmations on your magnesium levels? The stress will definitely affect your sleep aswell. I just hope to avoid permanent damage to the heart, so i will try act on this ASAP. Will begin monitoring potassium and magnesium intake from my diet to establish a pattern and throw in some variety into my diet to help get it from all sources.

                  Hope your feeling better.

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                  • #84
                    I've got something interesting to report and i would love if someone with knowledge on the issue cna chip in with advice!

                    Basically this morning for breakfast i had 1 cup of chopped chard, 3 boiled eggs and a can of sardines and 1/4 avocado. Now one other symptom i have is bubbly urine, in that there is always foam in the bowl when i go for a leek. I thought it was protein, but urine tests couple months ago came back clear. I then suspected acidic urine, and have been testing with strips, most days i'm normal and others i'm slightly acidic according to them.

                    I just came back from toilet and noticed the foam was considerably less, to the point of it just being normal as streak of urine hits water causing foam. I'm happy to have noticed this as it could be my first clear indicator. Could the meal i had for breakfast contributed this, as i was aiming for a higher than normal calcium and magnesium intake on purpose (i believe my diet would reveal i am low in calcium aswell). Any thoughts? I've seen there are quiet a few members on here who are booksmart adn know their minerals/vitamins so i hope someone can comment on this correlation!

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by zizou View Post
                      It is indeed, We're in winter now and i'm noticing it, don't know whether it'd be worse in summer. Do you feel safe taking the magnesium supplements? Have you had any diagnosis/confirmations on your magnesium levels? The stress will definitely affect your sleep aswell. I just hope to avoid permanent damage to the heart, so i will try act on this ASAP. Will begin monitoring potassium and magnesium intake from my diet to establish a pattern and throw in some variety into my diet to help get it from all sources.

                      Hope your feeling better.
                      Thanks, you as well. Please post back if you are able to fix the issues through diet, I would much prefer that as well.

                      No, I haven't (I embarrassingly admit) been to a doctor in years. Partly because I have a special knack for putting off things like that and partly because we live in an area with abysmal healthcare.

                      I feel safe taking the magnesium supplements 250mg at a time once or twice a day. I don't like taking 750mg all at once, I do that rarely (when my heart is really going crazy) but it does work nicely.

                      Oddly, I don't recall ever having the heart issue until I started going primal last year. Other than giving up grains, it wasn't a huge change for me as I had a pretty wholesome diet previously. But it might also just be coincidence. My mother had an arrhythmia that she had to have fixed with minor surgery and my brother has these issues as well. So perhaps it would have cropped up regardless.

                      This is motivating me to go to a clinic and request a blood work-up.

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