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  • Soy as a source of protein

    I have been eating the Clif builder bars as a protein source and would like opinions on soy as source of protein. I have seen many conflicting studies on whether soy decreases testosterone or not.

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    Tempeh, miso, natto, etc. are fine. Stay far away from anything that hasn't been fermented - soy milk, tofu, cliff bars, etc.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/025513_so..._soybeans.html
    “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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    • #3
      Almost all soy products available in western supermarkets (including those that imitate the real versions of traditional, fermented soy foods) are dangerous.

      The Vegetarian Myth and The Whole Soy Story are a couple books that address this.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by BarbeyGirl View Post
        Almost all soy products available in western supermarkets (including those that imitate the real versions of traditional, fermented soy foods) are dangerous.

        The Vegetarian Myth and The Whole Soy Story are a couple books that address this.
        +1

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        • #5
          endocrine disrupter... bad...bad...bad.

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          • #6
            I am just waiting for the day that the " Media" announces that Soy has been linked to all the Breast Cancers out there....... Scary Scary Stuff.....

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            • #7
              Clif bars are not food

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              • #8
                No.




                I do find tempeh tasty though....................... but I rather not grow tits.
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                • #9
                  I remember fondly those cool fall nights, sitting around the campfire after a long day of hunting and gathering. We would stretch out our toes towards the warmth of the campfire and listen to the elders tell tales of their exploits. Our favorite was always the story of how the mighty hunter, Passes the Dinner Rolls, managed to kill not one but THREE Clif Bars in a single hunt. His quiver was full, his lance was razor tipped and his will was as hard as the mountain.

                  Oh, how the tribe feasted on Clif Bars that day, bathing in their blood, shouting war cries to the sky and praising the name of Passes the Dinner Rolls.

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                  • #10
                    I'm looking at the Clif Bar website. Are you aware that a single Clif Bar has 45g of carb, 21 of which come from sugar? The soy question aside, why would you put that trash in your mouth?

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                    • #11
                      Passes the Dinner Rolls. hehe

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                      • #12
                        Jefferson, you made me laugh today Nice one.

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                        • #13
                          Just have a Snickers and a scoop of protein powder, pretty similar nutritionally.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jefferson View Post
                            I'm looking at the Clif Bar website. Are you aware that a single Clif Bar has 45g of carb, 21 of which come from sugar? The soy question aside, why would you put that trash in your mouth?
                            Specifically the builder bars have 31 g carbs (20 sugar) and 20 in protein. Anybody have a protein bar alternative?

                            Ingredients: Soy Protein Isolate, Beet Juice Concentrate, Organic Brown Rice Syrup, Organic Evaporated Cane Juice, Palm Kernel Oil, Unsweetened Chocolate, Organic Rolled Oats, Cocoa, Organic Soy Protein Concentrate, Organic Sunflower Oil, Vegetable Glycerin, Natural Flavors, Organic Dry Roasted Almonds, Rice Starch, Evaporated Cane Juice, Inulin (Chicory Extract), Cocoa Butter, Organic Milled Flaxseed, Organic Oat Fiber, Soy Lecithin, Salt, Red Cabbage Colo

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jefferson View Post
                              I remember fondly those cool fall nights, sitting around the campfire after a long day of hunting and gathering. We would stretch out our toes towards the warmth of the campfire and listen to the elders tell tales of their exploits. Our favorite was always the story of how the mighty hunter, Passes the Dinner Rolls, managed to kill not one but THREE Clif Bars in a single hunt. His quiver was full, his lance was razor tipped and his will was as hard as the mountain.

                              Oh, how the tribe feasted on Clif Bars that day, bathing in their blood, shouting war cries to the sky and praising the name of Passes the Dinner Rolls.
                              I envy you your wonderful primal experience around that fire, feasting on the reward of the hunt.
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