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  • Struggling with weight and new way of eating

    Hi there you lovely primal humans,

    ok so I'm not loosing weight and I think I know why and I just wanted to talk about it so I can see if I can figure out why. So thanks in advance for any thoughts and support I love reading this forum.

    I've given up grains, sugar, processed foods in general but I have a really hard time eating meat. I don't often find it appetizing. After the first week I lost some weight but I was so over eggs, meat and avocado that I started craving kefir and nuts. I love nuts and think this may be a problem. I don't want to count calories but some days I do and i stay in line (1600 cals and I'm 5'6 female 132 lbs trying to loose the 10lbs gained while studying abroad this last year due to lots of oatmeal/honey/almond butter bowls from emotional/stress eating:-) My muscles are not easily sustained and I love fruit. I know as I write this that the nuts, fruit and dairy are a problem. I love yogurt though and have been eating full fat goat yogurt and kefir. I've cut way back in the fruit dept though. I'll have an apple and then some berries (except for tonight's pile of strawberries, dried coconut and fistfuls of almonds.) I like fish but am concerned about toxins and I can't stand any more canned tuna or lox. I was doing turkey bacon but am not enjoying it. I just bought some chicken sausage and chicken hot dogs yesterday so I'll see how they go over. Still can't wrap my head around bacon.
    I think my problem with meat is 2 fold: 1) I raised animals and could never bare to eat what I couldn't kill (never got any further then slaughtering fish and fowl) and sometimes have a mental issue eating flesh, 2) I ate red meat almost 2 weeks and it made me sick for about 5 days. I got very backed up, was nauseous and have not been interested in consuming meat since.
    Ok so I'm rambling here but I want to believe this will work for me. I'm also living with a skinny girl (not muscular) who eats salads with mozzarella cheese for dinner which I don't think is helping me.

    All I want is more nuts now too Sigh. Tomorrow is a new day and I'll see if I can stay away from the nuts. Thanks for reading this guys. I so want my body back!
    In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. -- Albert Camus

  • #2
    Well I can't offer too much advice on the meat, except that I *think* that if stop eating meat for a while your body stops producing the enzymes that help to digest it, I would try to take it easy and go more slowly. I could be wrong though. I am not a huge fan of protein powders, but perhaps a quality one will help yo get thru this transition.

    My other suggestion would be to bump up the size of your meals so that you are not so snacky.

    I go thru periods where I can barely choke down eggs....never been a fan. I find that if I add some sauted veggies and cheese or some clean sausae (Jimmy Dean has a Natural Style sausage that is pretty clean)

    I also make a smoothie with my kefir, add some spinach, kale, blueberries and a small piece of banana or apple to sweeten a bit. Or you could add your protein powder, or drop in a couple eggs.

    I think the combo of : not enough protein and meals that may be too small is making you too snacky and that is driving the weight.

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    • #3
      A 5'6" female at 132lbs doesn't have very much weight to loose... At 122 lbs, 10 lbs lighter, I think you might look almost sickly. What makes you think that 122lbs is your "happy" weight? Just because you were that weight before? I would focus on feeding your body quality foods (including meat, but also some fruit and nuts and other whole foods that you like) and doing solid workouts to tone your body as opposed to focusing on loosing weight.

      For a point of reference, I am 5'5", 129lbs, a size 2 or 4 in most stores. I have been 120 - 122 lbs in the past, but I almost have to starve myself to get to that weight. Even when I can reach that weight, one splurge pushes me up. For me, what seems to be most effective is to eat quality foods, work out intensly (I am in love with CrossFit), and be proud of what my body can DO (gaining 12 lbs on my deadlift max yesterday, doing 150 burpees in a workout, etc.), not how much it weighs.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MMS131 View Post
        A 5'6" female at 132lbs doesn't have very much weight to loose... At 122 lbs, 10 lbs lighter, I think you might look almost sickly. What makes you think that 122lbs is your "happy" weight? Just because you were that weight before? I would focus on feeding your body quality foods (including meat, but also some fruit and nuts and other whole foods that you like) and doing solid workouts to tone your body as opposed to focusing on loosing weight.
        I would just like to point out that the OP says ' My muscles are not easily sustained' so I interpret that as that she is on the more petite side.

        I am 5'7" and went from 136 (quite porky for me) down to my current 120. I still don't have abs...and perhaps never will. I swim and do bodyweight exercise to ward off the scrawnies. We all have different body types so she and I may just be that type that does not carry weight well....ie muscular!

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        • #5
          Do you like fish? I would try and add in more fish if you arent a fan of the mammal flesh. Pricey tho...
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          • #6
            dacec - that's definitely a valid point, we all do have different body types and look good at different weights. I guess that I just see so many females focused on being ultra thin and what the scale says as opposed to how healthy they are, how they feel overall, etc. I can completely relate to that struggle, because I have been there before myself. My point was more that our bodies are designed to do many things, not just to hit a number on the scale that we have pre-determined is the right number for it to weigh, and that possibly examining the reasons for the focused weightloss might be a good place to start.

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            • #7
              MMS131.... I completely agree that the number on the scale is meaningless!
              How one feels really should be the focus. I started on this path in an effort to lose a few pounds but it quickly became a health focus not a weight focus.

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              • #8
                Another fan of staying off the scale here. Being at a low weight can be much less healthy than being more tone at a higher weight.
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                • #9
                  What types of meat are you eating?

                  If it's ckinless chicken breast or super lead steak... well yea that sucks.

                  Start to transition to dark meat, medium rare fattier steaks... grill them, etc.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dacec View Post
                    I would just like to point out that the OP says ' My muscles are not easily sustained' so I interpret that as that she is on the more petite side.

                    I am 5'7" and went from 136 (quite porky for me) down to my current 120. I still don't have abs...and perhaps never will. I swim and do bodyweight exercise to ward off the scrawnies. We all have different body types so she and I may just be that type that does not carry weight well....ie muscular!
                    Yes that is how I would describe myself dacec. I was lean and strong 10 months ago and 122 lbs looked great on me and I felt super buff. I went through a lot of stress studying abroad. I've had low estrogen for quite some time but have just started a low estrogen birth control patch. I have to supply the hormone this way because the problem is in my hypothalamus and I will never be able to change that no matter how good my diet is. I will have to monitor my hormone changes carefully with my doctor but my energy is suffering and depression is palpable. How long did it take for you to loose that weight? I have the book and I'm trying to do the math right now as to how many calories I need, fat grams, protein etc. and then to figure out the exercise part. If you have the time, I would really love to hear about your experience. thanks
                    In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. -- Albert Camus

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                    • #11
                      MMS131 I completely agree with you. I provided the stats just to give some context to my story but please know that this weight gain and muscle loss was over the last year while I was studying abroad. The scale can say whatever it wants but in the end I just want to fit back into my clothes
                      In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. -- Albert Camus

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                      • #12
                        Hermanda....

                        Happy to share my story. I did not start out here with the PB. I started last year looking at the way my family ate and was not happy....way too much processed garbage. So I went on a mission to clean things up, made a lot of changes, mostly cooked everything from scratch...including plenty of sweets.

                        Then I ramped up and put myself on a more low glycemic diet and cut out simple carbs...no sugar, minimal grains, no bread, pasta etc. minimal fruit. I started to see some great results. I from November thru March I lost about 13 lbs...which made a big difference to me. In Feb I started swimming 3x per week and that, coupled with more of a primal approach (more protein and less overall carbs) helped me to fine tune and drop a few more.

                        I have learned to eat enough at each meal to carry me thru to the next, I no longer have the need or urge to snack, which is great. I keep my carbs at around 50-70g and my protein at 70-90g and fill in with fats at around 70-100g. I try to keep track but often am lazy...well, busy

                        I am not a die hard, I mean I have a beer or glass of wine on occasion, enjoy dark chocolate here and there and on the weekend my favorite treat is freshly whipped cream (a little honey to sweeten) and fresh berries. For me this is a great lifestyle and I love it, we are healthier than we have ever been. My Hubby has lost 33 lbs since Dec (mostly since March when he got more serious) and in this process I found out that three of my kids and Hubby are gluten intolerant (varying degrees) so we have had major changes and major benefits in health. Me:weight loss, moodiness gone, shorter periods, achy hips gone. Hubby: reflux gone, along with the meds he took everyday for about 13 years, daily headaches gone, digestive issues gone. 16 yr old: migraines gone, frequent diarrhea gone and she put on a much needed 10pounds! 7 yr old: daily tummy aches gone, leg aches gone and better sleep. 19 yr old: just got on board and has lost 6 lbs this week and has suddenly learned she can go 5 hours between meals! Ha! My 14 yr old is a work in progress...he gets the healthy concepts however he is extraordinarily finicky and the execution is a bit harder for him.

                        You will find you way, don't waste energy fretting about it though. You can look online to see how many calories you NEED to consume, but rather than focus on calorie restriction, just focus on eating enough at all three meals, include plenty of protein (I know that one is hard right now) which just based on your weight is probably about 80g. Find an exercise that you actually enjoy I think that makes all the difference. Try to get some weight bearing stuff in there too...even if it is just bodyweight exercises, helps to build muscle and lose weight.

                        Lastly, don't obsess over what you can't have, eat till you are full and eat when you are hungry....the kinks will all work themselves out as you move thru the learning curve!

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                        • #13
                          Perhaps I missed it but is there a reason you don't like meat? Were you previously a vegetarian or vegan?

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                          • #14
                            Yes but I also seemed to have a hard time digesting it. Small amount only for now. But there is also a mental factor here i admit it. I've worked with animals my whole life and have a hard time with the thought of eating their flesh.
                            In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. -- Albert Camus

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                            • #15
                              Does the thought of knowing that they were ethically raised & killed help? A lot of ex-vegetarians I know, will only eat ethically raised meat. As far as having trouble digesting meat, you may have low stomache acid &/or a few mineral deficiencies. Unfortunately, some some of the best minerals that help you digest meat are in meat so the slow and steady process is the way to go.

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