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    So...I've been slowly going primal over the last few months, and then switched to pretty much 100% primal within the last month. The last few periods have been okay; not as bad as they have been in the past, but not symptom-free or anything. This time around I had been having a really good cycle so far, with very little in the way of PMS symptoms. I was so excited! Then I started on this new protein powder a couple of days ago and on the first day of my period I got REALLY bloated, and had the worst cramps I've had in a long time, along with bad nausea for about an hour. I had to take a half-day from work because I was in so much pain! I'm really annoyed.

    I do have a strong sensitivity to dairy, but didn't seem to be reacting to the first whey protein I tried. Maybe I was having a cumulative reaction to that protein powder too, and it just showed up now? Not sure. I guess I'm off whey protein for a while...boo.

    Does this make sense to anyone? Or is there another side effect of going primal that might have caused this?

    Stats as of 3/1/12:
    5'10" female, 38 y/o
    Currently 140 lbs., approx 25% body fat
    WEIGHT GOAL: lose a bit more body fat and tighten up the rear end...basically, I want to look great naked. Everywhere else is looking great, but my ass/hips/thighs are being a bit stubborn. TMI?
    DAILY MACRO TARGETS: Cal: 1,857. Protein: 100g (400cal). Carb: 75g (300cal). Fat: 128g (1156cal).
    EXERCISE GOAL: incorporate 2-3 strength training sessions and 1 sprint session per week.

  • #2
    Wish I could help, but I'm on the shot. I'm sure some of the girls here can relate. This topic has come up a couple times.

    Sorry to hear you're having such trouble. Doesn't sound like any fun at all.

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    • #3
      I don't have any suggestions or advice for you, but I do sympathize. That does suck! It's funny how foods affect our periods so differently. I used to date a guy who argued up and down with me that all my PMS symptoms were "in my head" and that he'd read about aboriginal tribes that didn't have any PMS. (Not a very smart choice of male partners there for a while). I think it is true that there are probably many tribes women who don't experience the same things we do...but it's because of diet, not because it's all in our heads, or it's a convenient excuse (which is something I've heard other guys say). Between old herbal remedies (read: modern supplements) and their diets, they probably don't experience hardly any mood swings, bloatedness, tenderness, or cramps.

      In watching a video about vitamin D deficiency over at grassroots.com, I was surprised to learn that nutrition was such a new science, and still so very very misunderstood. It's a real shame that the connection between women's cycles and nutrition hasn't been better studied.

      If you're going off of whey, is there another type of protein powder that you'll be trying? I've seen egg whites and brown rice and I've been trying to figure out why everyone goes for the whey. What's the differences between them. I need to pick some up myself.

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      • #4
        Thanks for the empathy, ladies. I'm really surprised that I had such a strong negative reaction...but then again, maybe not. Maybe I was just hoping that I could tolerate the whey. Fyrespryte, I'm thinking about trying the egg white powder because plant-based proteins have historically not satiated me the same as animal protein, but I have not been tolerating eggs well lately, either. Sheesh! The whey powder was nice to break up all the meat I was eating to get my protein ratios. Maybe I'll stay off it for a couple of weeks and then try the old brand again.

        BTW, the 1st brand I tried was Jay Robb, and the 2nd brand was Tera's Whey.

        Stats as of 3/1/12:
        5'10" female, 38 y/o
        Currently 140 lbs., approx 25% body fat
        WEIGHT GOAL: lose a bit more body fat and tighten up the rear end...basically, I want to look great naked. Everywhere else is looking great, but my ass/hips/thighs are being a bit stubborn. TMI?
        DAILY MACRO TARGETS: Cal: 1,857. Protein: 100g (400cal). Carb: 75g (300cal). Fat: 128g (1156cal).
        EXERCISE GOAL: incorporate 2-3 strength training sessions and 1 sprint session per week.

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        • #5
          Totally Off Topic: Have the eggs that you haven't been tolerating been store bought, or farm fresh? I have a problem with eggs too, (a BIG one) but I recently think that I found a way around it. I'm still just in the beginning phases of trying it, and it's seemed to work so far but no guarantees about the future...I started buying farm fresh eggs that were laid more recently than store bought ones and I seem to do a lot better with them. Once they start to get a little older and I notice a difference in digestion of them, I tossed the whites and just ate the yolks as the research that I did seemed to point to a bigger problem with the whites for people with egg intolerance's. I hope if you have to switch that it'll be ok for you!

          Since you switched brands maybe it was some other ingredient in it other than the whey that gave you such issues? Perhaps something in their process, or where they get their whey from...maybe try going back to the first one?

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          • #6
            I think it would be interesting to go back to your old brand and see how you feel. Then if you are ok compare the ingredients list to see if there was something specific.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by fyrespryte View Post
              I used to date a guy who argued up and down with me that all my PMS symptoms were "in my head" and that he'd read about aboriginal tribes that didn't have any PMS. (Not a very smart choice of male partners there for a while). I think it is true that there are probably many tribes women who don't experience the same things we do...but it's because of diet, not because it's all in our heads, or it's a convenient excuse (which is something I've heard other guys say).
              And you know if men had a period they would be lying on the sofa for a week straight in agony and wanting as much sympathy as they can get. LOL.

              OP, maybe you are just reacting to that particular brand of whey. Is it a different brand then the first you tried? (yes it was...I never read far enough before I posted)

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              • #8
                did your sodium intake change at all? i know if i'm eating things higher in sodium around the RagTime, i bloat up like whoa and it sucks all kind of butt.
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                • #9
                  Fyrespryte, I have recently tried farm fresh eggs as well as duck and goose eggs - I seem to have the same reaction to all of them. And here's a weird one: now I'm noticing that after I eat eggs my hands smell awful for a few hours afterward! It's not a matter of washing, I wash and wash them and the smell pervades. I have to keep scented moisturizer on them. Gross, right???

                  So y'all are right, I think I'm back to the Jay Robb whey and I'll see how my body does on that. It's so weird because by rights, Tera's Whey should be the cleaner of the two products ingredient-wise, but maybe her whey is less denatured or something. Anyone want a half-used box of blueberry-flavored organic whey? :/

                  Batty - I don't think my sodium intake changed at all, but I can go back through my pb journal and check.

                  Stats as of 3/1/12:
                  5'10" female, 38 y/o
                  Currently 140 lbs., approx 25% body fat
                  WEIGHT GOAL: lose a bit more body fat and tighten up the rear end...basically, I want to look great naked. Everywhere else is looking great, but my ass/hips/thighs are being a bit stubborn. TMI?
                  DAILY MACRO TARGETS: Cal: 1,857. Protein: 100g (400cal). Carb: 75g (300cal). Fat: 128g (1156cal).
                  EXERCISE GOAL: incorporate 2-3 strength training sessions and 1 sprint session per week.

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                  • #10
                    I dunno, frankly going Primal has done nothing for PMS symptoms that I can see. Well maybe in the lead-up, but not in terms of the short term but bad cramps I get, that got worse when I hit 40 or so. At any rate, it could be that the whey or anything else you're eating is just coincidence, you know.

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                    • #11
                      I noticed that my PMS and length of periods greatly improved when I cut out all commercial crap faux food from my diet. I recently have leaned more to the primal and have increased my protein. This last period was by far the worst! I almost could not function, I was in so much pain....but that only lasted about 6 hours and over all my period has gone from 6 days down to 2 1/2-3 days.

                      I had not been taking my vitamins last month as well as I should, I am hoping that is what made me period so bad...trying to be better this go around!

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                      • #12
                        Oh man, I am SOOO sorry.

                        I suspect that the new whey may have done you in.

                        That said, are you taking any fish oil? Cilikat suggested that I take Krill oil along with my other supplements because it helps to regulate hormones. I bought some and could NOT beleive the difference.

                        Here is what I wrote in her food journal:

                        I'm taking 2000 of fish oil and 2000 of krill oil. Totally worth it.

                        I didn't have my usual 2 days of crying, misery, anger and emotional eating mid cycle, I did have a *tiny* bit of anxiety (totally controlable) and a touch of mopeyness (also easy to overcome). I also didn't have my two day migraine just before my period started - a sinus headache, or I thought it was, anyway I was able to NOT use my heavy drugs on it. AND it seems to have shifted back a few days from 37 to 31. I'll be interested to see if it winds up going to a normal 28 day cycle.

                        UNfortunately it didn't control my 2nd day misery, and I'm having seriously wicked carb/sugar cravings. I did give in, in a low key way. Still satisfying the craving without doing too much damage. Have any of your wonderful suggestions?
                        +++++++++++++++++++++

                        I also wanted to add that I normally have at least 1.5 days of heavy heavy flow, while curled up in a fetal position popping midols like candy. Not this time. I was pepared for that yesterday, and I didn't need the midol, I stayed home because of my normal worries, but by supper time the "worst" was over and I was so full of energy that I spent the evening making soap. Of course that could have been the Choco-cherry love blizzard I had LOL!
                        SW: 235
                        CW:220
                        Rough start due to major carb WD.

                        MWF: 1 hour run/walk, 1.5 hours in the gym - upper/lower and core
                        Sat/Sun=Yard/house work, chasing kids, playing
                        Family walk every night instead of everyone vegging in front of the TV
                        Personal trainer to build muscle mass & to help meet goals

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                        • #13
                          I'll look into the krill oil - thanks! I don't know anything about that supplement. I'm also trying to get more info about magnesium - for some reason I have an intuition that my calcium/potassium/magnesium triangle is off kilter. Dacec, sorry that you are still having so much pain! I was really surprised to have it myself, after a few months without it I thought it was gone.

                          Stats as of 3/1/12:
                          5'10" female, 38 y/o
                          Currently 140 lbs., approx 25% body fat
                          WEIGHT GOAL: lose a bit more body fat and tighten up the rear end...basically, I want to look great naked. Everywhere else is looking great, but my ass/hips/thighs are being a bit stubborn. TMI?
                          DAILY MACRO TARGETS: Cal: 1,857. Protein: 100g (400cal). Carb: 75g (300cal). Fat: 128g (1156cal).
                          EXERCISE GOAL: incorporate 2-3 strength training sessions and 1 sprint session per week.

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