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  • Is A Calorie A Calorie?

    Simple statement... You say either True or False. Feel free to elaborate if you want.

    Hurley consumes exactly 1800 calories every single day and burns exactly 2000 calories every single day. Hurley is losing weight every single day. The type of food does not at all matter.

    So, true or false? Elaborate if you wish.
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  • #2
    Even if we assume weight loss is all about calories in/out, it's still intellectually bankrupt to say "a calorie is just a calorie," since you're not factoring in satiety. 2000 calories of white bread and sugar is just going to make you hungry enough to eat another 500,000,000,000 calories. 2000 calories of real food will leave a lot of people satisfied for hours on end.
    “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dosenberry View Post
      Simple statement... You say either True or False. Feel free to elaborate if you want.

      Hurley consumes exactly 1800 calories every single day and burns exactly 2000 calories every single day. Hurley is losing weight every single day. The type of food does not at all matter.

      So, true or false? Elaborate if you wish.
      Hurley obviously doesn't have any degree of insulin resistance;-)

      FALSE. There truly are "good calories" and "bad calories". Pretty simply put, bad calories are from foods which provoke an insulin response. Or inflammation. Both of which will contribute to weight gain (and brain deterioration, disease and all that fun stuff).
      I read about a rat study where two sets of mice ate the same amount of calories but one group ate them in the form of high-fructose corn syrup. Those mice gained weight and the other mice didn't. In fact, those poor mice continued to gain even after their calories were reduced!
      http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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      • #4
        Leptin fucking resistance

        /thread
        Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

        Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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        • #5
          No.

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          • #6
            The term itself is an oversimplification:
            Nutritionists usually talk about the number of calories in a gram of a nutrient, but this implies that the food actually 'contains' energy. It's better to say that each gram of food (fuel) is associated with a particular amount of energy (released when the food is respired) source

            “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” -Oscar Wilde
            "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw
            "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." -Martin Mull

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            • #7
              No.

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              • #8
                Technically, yes. A calorie is simply a unit of measurement for the energy in food. So, a calorie is a calorie, what else would it be?

                But, when it comes to how that calorie acts in the human body with regards to whether the calorie came from fat or protein or carbohydrate, which I think is what you're asking... then my answer is

                NO (or false)

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                • #9
                  Absolutely not...aka NO
                  I grok, therefore I am.

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                  • #10
                    I LOVE the responses so far. I asked this "question" because I had an argument with my dad. Keep your thoughts coming!!!!!!
                    Find me at aToadontheRoad.com. Cheers!

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                    • #11
                      Basically my dad says a calorie is a calorie. Its simply a measurement. He learned this while he went to school.

                      He is correct. But, I tell him it just is not that simple....
                      Find me at aToadontheRoad.com. Cheers!

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                      • #12
                        A calorie of sugar vs. a calorie of fat will illicit a COMPLETELY different hormonal response.
                        I grok, therefore I am.

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                        • #13
                          Dad gets an A+ for physics and a sharp rap on the knuckles for a failure to understand biochemistry.

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                          • #14
                            Keep them coming guys! I love every response so far!

                            So basically one can lose weight by consuming very little fat and protein and a lot of carbs as long as they burn more calories then they consume, right? Its just not the healthiest calories, but one will still lose weight... thats what he says...
                            Find me at aToadontheRoad.com. Cheers!

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                            • #15
                              Have any of you looked at studies that examine the affects of different macronutrient diets and their results?

                              It's been found that different macronutrient diets produce statistically similar results in weightloss/gain. Now, there are differences. Such as how lean the weight gain/loss was, statiety, overall wellness.

                              However, those affects are not under scrutiny. In this context, whether a calorie is a calorie, is YES it is. You will lose/gain roughly the same amount of weight on different calorie diets if all other factors are held constant.

                              This is why you see success with all types of diets out there. People respond differently to different diets. Environment/behavior is also a big influencer.

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