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  • Hoping for a new life at mid life...from eating disorder😞

    Hi, this is my first ever attempt in my life to join a forum or start a journal, so pardon me if I sound a bit too long winded or I've broken any forum rules!

    I've decided to start this journal, hoping it will help me get out of my eating disorder! A little background about myself - I'm a 35 year old female residing in South East Asia - where grains are the staple food everywhere 😓. As far as I've ever known, I've been having a yoyo relationship with food since I was 13.....from surviving only on diet coke everyday to gorging cycles. In these recent years, my disorder had been secretly gorging (mindlessly) for hours non-stop and bingeing in the middle of the night. My weakness is sugar, so I can stuff myself with 8 to 10 scoops of ice cream or multiple desserts at one seating.....then I'll feel sick from all the sugar and start on a savory binge....then crave for sugar again....this cycle all in a non-stop 2 hour fashion! After that, I'll feel so disgusted and ashamed and I'll take laxatives at night to make myself feel better!! 😡. I'm so angry at myself - cos I feel like a failure at 35!

    I chance upon this site and forum and have been following it for a month...everyone is so encouraging...so I've decided to take this challenge to come out of my closet of secret bingeing & hope to start a primal lifestyle...hoping to get a new lease of life again at mid life....

    Any feedback, advice, help would be so greatly appreciated! 😊. And if there is anyone out there from the little island of Singapore, would be great to hear from you too....at least I know I'm not alone from this part of the world!

    So let today be the beginning of my primal lifestyle discovery. Fingers crossed that I can keep those sugar & carbs cravings monsters away....


    From a little island in S.E.A.

  • #2
    I just wanted to send you strength and encouragement!
    I also struggle with BED and am attempting to get back into recovery through primal eating after allowing life stress to throw me into a sugar void. We can do this!

    Sent from my LG-E617G using Marks Daily Apple Forum mobile app

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    • #3
      Hi Justme, thank you very much for your support! You don't know how glad I am when I saw your reply..that I'm not alone! Pardon me for overreacting cos it's my first time doing this journal thingy!

      Yes, we can beat BED together!


      From a little island in S.E.A.

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      • #4
        No problem
        I am still trying to figure out what works for me, but personally, here is what I would do in your position.
        Stop the laxatives. They are only hurting you.
        Cut out the garbage. Focus on real food. Nourish your body.
        Surround yourself with support. In person or here!

        Sent from my LG-E617G using Marks Daily Apple Forum mobile app

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        • #5
          Hi hi....I've made myself a "primal" scrambled eggs breakfast this morning with the following ingredients...1tsp coconut oil, 2 whole eggs + 1 egg white, onions, garlic & leftover chicken meat (no skin) from last nights fried chicken dinner - a good 300 calories! (Don't know if this is considered primal enough?)

          But I felt very bloated after consumption & I got hungry after 2 hours, my stomach started rumbling after about 1 hour!

          Where did I go wrong???? I thought this high fat high protein breakfast is supposed to keep me full & satisfied. I used to not eat breakfast or just eat oatmeal (less than 200 calorie breakfast).

          Please advise....😫

          By the way, here are my stats n lifestyle....dunno if it'll help with any "diagnosis"...

          Height: 164cm / 5ft 4
          Weight: 48kg / 106lbs
          Activities: running avg 25km per week / 1 yoga or 1 strength training (60min).
          Medical condition: high cholesterol (330 points) / haven't had my period since May 2012

          Thanks


          From a little island in S.E.A.

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          • #6
            Just had the following for lunch.....stomach is super cramps & bloated but I don't feel satisfied?

            - plain grilled salmon fillet (asked for no sauce)
            - steamed cauliflower / carrots / French beans (about a cup in total)
            - fried boneless chicken thigh strips (removed the batter)
            - mustard & Tabasco for seasoning

            😣


            From a little island in S.E.A.

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            • #7
              Hi Loka! The advice I'm going to give you is not what teh general forum would suggest... but it works. I suffered from BED for 13 years. What cured it for me was changing my diet to high fruit, low fat, and allowing myself ot eat sugar when I needed it. By "sugar" I mean pure, white, refined sugar: if I get a sugar craving I have a few spoons in my tea and I dont crave it any more.

              HIgh fat did not satiate me either, and eating low carb actually triggered the worst case of BED I've ever had and caused me to gain 20 lbs. I really believe that some people need a lot more carbs than others, and if you are craving sugar there's a chance that your body simply needs the carbs.

              Not going to write too much more but I hope this is of some help. THere are many people like me who overcame BED simply by allowing themselves to eat sugar and fruit.
              "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

              In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

              - Ray Peat

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              • #8
                Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                Hi Loka! The advice I'm going to give you is not what teh general forum would suggest... but it works. I suffered from BED for 13 years. What cured it for me was changing my diet to high fruit, low fat, and allowing myself ot eat sugar when I needed it. By "sugar" I mean pure, white, refined sugar: if I get a sugar craving I have a few spoons in my tea and I dont crave it any more.

                HIgh fat did not satiate me either, and eating low carb actually triggered the worst case of BED I've ever had and caused me to gain 20 lbs. I really believe that some people need a lot more carbs than others, and if you are craving sugar there's a chance that your body simply needs the carbs.

                Not going to write too much more but I hope this is of some help. THere are many people like me who overcame BED simply by allowing themselves to eat sugar and fruit.
                OMG! Really?!? Sounds great (to be able to eat sugar & carbs!) 😆😋. Cos I've just had a mad rushed day and just cancelled my gym plans, feeling the need for some comfort food again!

                But well I guess what you're trying to tell me is I need to monitor and understand my own body & most importantly my brain, to know what I really need and not force myself to go VLC or high fat?(cos I still can't put a piece of fatty pork belly or chicken skin past my mouth yet &#128534

                I will try to make a conscious effort during dinner tonight to listen to my body.....fingers crossed I don't end up bingeing on desserts after!

                Cheers!


                From a little island in S.E.A.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Loka View Post
                  I will try to make a conscious effort during dinner tonight to listen to my body.....fingers crossed I don't end up bingeing on desserts after!
                  You're welcome!

                  If you're craving something sweet after your dinner, it's possibly because your blood sugar has dipped after eating, and you need something to bring you back up. I found eliminating starch was a big help in managing my blood sugar (in SE Aisa that might be tough ) If you want sugar after you eat: try sweetened tea, or sorbet. Anything high sugar, low fat. It's the combo of fat and sugar that get people addicted to food, and make them gain weight. Choose one or the other

                  Good luck!
                  "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                  In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                  - Ray Peat

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                  • #10
                    Sigh.....didn't do well today for the night (again!) . I'm always good in the day and find that it's always the night that I cannot control my BED.

                    I had Korean buckwheat noodle & scallion seafood pancake for dinner. After an hour, my friend and I shared Gelare ice cream on waffle! I had a quarter of the waffle (😱 wheat!) and had coconut milk ice cream & frozen yogurt. It triggered my sweet tooth again and I raided the fridge back home for more comfort food! Logged in at about 180g of carbs today!!! 😱


                    From a little island in S.E.A.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                      You're welcome!

                      If you want sugar after you eat: try sweetened tea, or sorbet. Anything high sugar, low fat. It's the combo of fat and sugar that get people addicted to food, and make them gain weight. Choose one or the other

                      Good luck!
                      I must always remember your quote in my head....choose one or the other (fat or sugar)! 😜


                      From a little island in S.E.A.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Loka View Post
                        Hi hi....I've made myself a "primal" scrambled eggs breakfast this morning with the following ingredients...1tsp coconut oil, 2 whole eggs + 1 egg white, onions, garlic & leftover chicken meat (no skin) from last nights fried chicken dinner - a good 300 calories! (Don't know if this is considered primal enough?)

                        But I felt very bloated after consumption & I got hungry after 2 hours, my stomach started rumbling after about 1 hour!

                        Where did I go wrong???? I thought this high fat high protein breakfast is supposed to keep me full & satisfied. I used to not eat breakfast or just eat oatmeal (less than 200 calorie breakfast).

                        Please advise....😫

                        By the way, here are my stats n lifestyle....dunno if it'll help with any "diagnosis"...

                        Height: 164cm / 5ft 4
                        Weight: 48kg / 106lbs
                        Activities: running avg 25km per week / 1 yoga or 1 strength training (60min).
                        Medical condition: high cholesterol (330 points) / haven't had my period since May 2012

                        Thanks


                        From a little island in S.E.A.
                        Hi,
                        You sound very skinny, I am 163cm and 57 kg, when I was 53kg bones were sticking out and I did not look good. The fact that your period has stopped is also a sign of being to skinny.

                        I would stop the running, cronic cardio is not primal, if you want to run sprint once a week.
                        And eat more. Eat chicken with crispy skin, get fattier kinds of meat and fish, eat more whole eggs and if you tolerate dairy eat cheese, cream and put butter on your vegetables.
                        Snack on nuts, olives, fruit, pieces of coconut. Add white rice or potatoes to your meal for carbs but not so much that it fills you up to much for eating calorie dense food, and eat plenty of fruit like berries and bananas.

                        And 1 tsp of coconut oil is not high fat, take a tablespoon, you can also add it to your coffee. It might take some getting used to.

                        White sugar is not good for you, no minerals or vitamins in it and it might trigger your binges, and spike you insuline.
                        And get into the other primal things like sleeping enough and playing. Have you read the PB book yet? It is the best place to start together with the getting started section of this site and the main (blog) site.

                        Give your body time to heal and health will follow. Good luck, glad you found this site.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by paleodutch View Post
                          Hi,
                          You sound very skinny, I am 163cm and 57 kg, when I was 53kg bones were sticking out and I did not look good. The fact that your period has stopped is also a sign of being to skinny.

                          Hi paleodutch, thanks for replying! . Actually I'm not skinny for an Asian, I look lean, but not skinny . I'm not looking to lose weight on this new primal diet, more like I'm trying to find a lifestyle to curb my years of BED.

                          I would stop the running, cronic cardio is not primal, if you want to run sprint once a week.

                          Ah....this is the part I'm trying very hard to adapt to . Cos I love running, it's like the only thing that helps de stress me (my life is a complete messy stress now....)

                          And eat more. Eat chicken with crispy skin, get fattier kinds of meat and fish, eat more whole eggs and if you tolerate dairy eat cheese, cream and put butter on your vegetables.
                          Snack on nuts, olives, fruit, pieces of coconut. Add white rice or potatoes to your meal for carbs but not so much that it fills you up to much for eating calorie dense food, and eat plenty of fruit like berries and bananas.

                          Been educated on low fat for years....so am trying to undo this and slowly learning to eat that piece of chicken skin! However, I've monitored on my past attempts on VLC diet, I'll crave very badly for ice cream n cakes after a couple of days and then give in n binge on them uncontrollably? Even after a high fat meal of fried chicken with the skin? What is wrong with me?!?!

                          And 1 tsp of coconut oil is not high fat, take a tablespoon, you can also add it to your coffee. It might take some getting used to.

                          White sugar is not good for you, no minerals or vitamins in it and it might trigger your binges, and spike you insuline.
                          And get into the other primal things like sleeping enough and playing. Have you read the PB book yet? It is the best place to start together with the getting started section of this site and the main (blog) site.

                          Give your body time to heal and health will follow. Good luck, glad you found this site.
                          Thanks once again for your tips! Will try to start reading this site section by section! Cheers 😄


                          From a little island in S.E.A.

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                          • #14
                            👎 woke up at 3am and had ice cream sitting in the kitchen by myself AGAIN!


                            From a little island in S.E.A.

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                            • #15
                              Don't stress over it, count it as the 20% . You can not change overnight.
                              You could try eating frozen blueberries or a frozen banana (guess you'll have to put it in a blender for a short time) as a primal substitute for icecream. I really like the frozen berries, sometimes with some cream on it.

                              Didn't realise the build difference between Europeans and Asians.

                              I guess you could see your running as play, but try searching matka blog a bit about what is cronic cardio and what is healthy.

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