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  • Now, it's my time to recover.

    I’m starting this journal following all of the helpful advice I received over the past few months in response to this: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread84039.html (this initial post covers the very starting points of going Primal)

    I’m going to keep it short and get straight to the points.

    Bloated when waking, after eating or drinking so pretty much all the time!

    Severe constipation. Often don’t pass more than a few ‘pellets’ a day and have dihorerra about once a week.

    Extremely cold feet all the time. I’ve tried a few things such as Gingko Biloba to try and improve circulation but no avail.

    Dark under eye circles. Again tried a lot of home remedies, creams, massages and neti pot but they just don’t shift. I find they get worse when I’m at work (retail) and have to go 5 hours until I can have something to eat (also very stressful at work, dealing with a few thousand customers in the 10 hour shift) Also the fluorescent lighting doesn’t help but again, this worsens them, not causes them since I'm only working twice a week.

    Zero energy to do anything, both physically and mentally. I don’t feel like a 22 year old male, but rather someone on the decline. I don’t really care that much about my life (career) right now and I want to get better so that I can focus on getting my career, having graduated last year. This means I don’t exercise very much. 1 hour of running in a nearby wood and maybe 30 minutes of strength training with no equipment per week.

    Low libido.

    Mild acne, which was the reason for eating a wholefoods diet. Overall skin looks dull and blotchy with some scars. Cutting out meat and vegetables did initially help with constant jawline acne, but it's starting to come back, mildly. I’m ordering a derma roller to help with this since no amount of natural products has helped me.

    4 years ago I changed my diet from SAD to more fruit and vegetables. 2 years ago I became primal and the past 4 months I’ve been eating:
    Fruit – mostly nectarines, which I’ve eaten to the point of becoming bored of them.
    Goat dairy products having avoiding all dairy for over 5 years.
    Animal produce – minced lamb, chicken breast and salmon 2-3 times a week at most. I eat as many oysters as my local stores stock, usually 10 per week at most.
    Some junk food but not a lot anymore. (mostly to get over orthorexia and obsessions with "health" food. I'm over that now)

    I spend a lot of time in the garden (bare feet) and no longer obsess about "health". Obviously doing so for the past half a decade hasn't exactly helped me.

    I’ve tried Matt Stone’s program but it made me gain 20lbs in the space of 3 weeks. I now weigh around 162lbs at 6’ 2”.

    A few weeks ago I visited my GP explaining my symptoms and concerns and how as a 22 year old, I should not be feeling like this. I managed to get a full blood test for what I suspect is low testosterone and hypothyroid. Below are the results.

    The Doctor was a little hesitant to give me the results due to “legal and confidentiality” reasons (and he probably thinks I’m a hypochondriac). I managed to get them anyway but after leaving I realised my testosterone was not printed out. Although my symptoms are extensive, the Doctor noted that the request for bloods was because I’m “tired”. Today was the follow up after bloods and he said to work on my “lifestyle” (even though I explained what my situation is) and that he doesn’t want to give me any drugs, which I’m pleased with.

    Figures in (brackets) are the given ranges where applicable.

    TSH – 1.1 mU/L (0.35 – 4.94)

    Blood Haematinic Levels
    Vitamin B12 – 343 ng/L (187 – 883.0)
    Folate – 9.5 ug/L (1.8 – 18.3)
    Ferritin – 33.6 ug/L (22.0 – 275.0)

    Serum Lipid Levels
    Cholesterol – 4.1 mmol/L
    Tryglyceride – 1.9 mmol/L
    HDL Cholesterol – 1.1 mmol/L
    LDL Cholesterol – 2.1 mmol/L
    Total Cholesterol: HDL ratio – 3.7

    Urea and Electrolytes
    Sodum – 140mml/L (133.0 – 146.0)
    Potassium – 4.1 mmol/L (3.5 – 5.3)
    Urea – 3.3 mmol/L (2.5 – 7.8)
    Creatinine – 82 umol/L (64.0 – 110.0)
    GFR calculated abbreviagted MDRD - >90mL/min (60.0 – 200.0)

    Plasma Glucose – 4.9 mmol/L (3.0 – 6.0) Note: I fasted for 15 hours

    Bone Profile
    Calcium – 2.52 mmol/L
    Albumin – 46 g/L (35.0 – 50.0)
    Corrected Serum Calcium Level – 2.40 mmol/L (2.2 – 2.6)
    Alkaline Phosphatase – 75 U/L (30.0 – 130.0)
    Serum inorganic phospale level – 0.74 mmol/L (0.8 – 1.5) Note: This is recorded as below range

    Liver Function
    Total Protien – 75 g/L (60.0 – 80.0)
    Globulin – 29 g/L (20.0 – 34.0)
    Alanine aminotransferase – 15 U/L (<37.0)
    Bilirubin – 18 umol/L (< 21.0)

    Blood Count
    Haemeglobin concentration – 153 g/L (135.0 – 169.0)
    Total white blood count – 4.7 10*9/L (4.5 – 13.0)
    Platelet count – observation – 207 10*9/L (140.0 – 400.0)
    Red Blood Cell Count – 4.80 10*12/L (4.25 – 5.77)
    Mean Cell Volume – 90.0 fL (84.0 – 99.0)
    Haematocrit – 0.433 (0.41 – 0.51)
    Mean Cell Haemoglobin Level – 31.8 pg (27.5 – 32.5)
    Mean Cell Haemeglobin concentration – 353 g/L (209.0 – 348.0) Note: This is recorded as above range
    Neutrophil count – 2.53 10*9/L (2.0 – 7.5)
    Tissue Transglutaminase LgA Level – Negative (For celiac disease)

    Most of these results are “within (a very wide) range” but I’m sure they are not optimum. I wish I had my testosterone levels but I’m not making an appointment just to get those results.

    Hopefully some of you will be able to interpret these better than I (or my GP) can and advice me on the next steps to get better. I know it’s not an overnight transition.

    Thanks to everyone in advance. I greatly appreciate your time and knowledge.

    EDIT: Testosterone was missing but here it is now:

    Testosterone
    31.0 (9.1 - 34.3)
    Last edited by Nstocks; 08-07-2013, 05:29 AM.

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    Whole Blood Serotonin (5-HT)
    Prolactin (PRL)
    Parathyroid Hormone (PTH)
    Vitamin D 25-Hydroxy

    You need these as well. It's not enough, what he gave you.
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    • #3
      Yup and the Thyroid level is quite useless, I think. There's no chance I'm going back to the Doctors. I don't understand where he gets the idea to advice me on my issues. He says I'm shy and as long as my personality works for me, I shouldn't worry about what other people think! I'm sorry but for someone whom has seen me all but 30 minutes in the past 3 years, I have no idea why he said that. I'm more confident than the last time I went to see him;, I speak us, I keep the conversation going, look him in the eye, shake his hand etc. etc. I think dealing with thousands of people (literally) each weekend from the general public has helped my social skills too. He did say though that these are "common traits" when someone comes in and doesn't know what they want to do with their life. Not quite true and I couldn't be bothered to explain to him my career desires.

      I've been looking online at private blood tests, some look like a scam, like thyroid test for 25. Some require me to go to the clinic which is 100 or more miles away. (and I'm selling my car this month). Hmm, maybe someone from the UK knows of a good private and affordable place to get tests. (I might email BUPA but I know they require one's presence to get the tests done and are not cheap).
      Last edited by Nstocks; 08-06-2013, 09:45 AM.

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      • #4
        Some of your results are pretty good though. Deducing what is there, your PTH might come back OK, because an indication of high PTH is increased calcium and lower phosphate. Though, this is speculation.

        Having increased confidence is also indication that your 5HT is on the decline, too.

        What you probably just need is a little bit of t3, increased protein, and a carrot salad daily.
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        • #5
          How does confidence reduce 5HT? (the neurotransmitter for happiness is it? Doesn't that go up with confidence?) I don't mean confidence as in, being cocky or arrogant, but just not being afraid to speak up and accept who I am. My good cholesterol isn't very good is it?
          T3 from a supplement/drug?
          Last edited by Nstocks; 08-06-2013, 10:01 AM.

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          • #6
            Not a direct reduction, but a sign:

            ALCOHOL-INDUCED DEPRESSION: INVOLVEMENT OF SEROTONIN

            Keep in mind everything modern medical says about serotonin is wrong, and that alcohol usually makes people more open and less inhibited.

            Cytomel is what I take. Having labs for rt3, and the rest would be useful, but judging by your symptoms of temperature and pulse, you need some.
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            • #7
              Your cholesterol is normal. My cholesterol levels are hovering around 130, but this is because it's being used rapidly to create steroid hormones.
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              • #8
                Derp, with the Dermaroller, how do you prepare the skin? (unless you just use it on your scalp). Some say just wash face with water, others say to use a "skin disinfectant". Also, to clean the roller what do you use? I've found this but it seems expensive for a small bottle: http://www.amazon.co.uk/STERILIZER-I...roller+cleaner

                My roller arrives tomorrow, 0.5mm which is apparently the minimum to stimulate collagen. http://www.derma-rollers.com (I paid 55 since it has discount. These are used by the NHS are are certified sterile and medical grade. I figured it's worth paying for a good one, even if it needs replacing after the recommended 3 months.)

                I plan on applying aloe vera gel afterwards, then going to bed. Should I also get a vitamin E cream to apply after the aloe because it apparently helps with collagen.
                Last edited by Nstocks; 08-06-2013, 11:56 AM. Reason: Link wasn't working

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                • #9
                  I clean it with cheap alcohol, a cloth, and hot water. Water works well, unless your face is really greasy. Vitamin e would be good, but check to make sure it's pure vitamin e.
                  Make America Great Again

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                  • #10
                    There doesn't seem to be any good vitamin E creams out these so I'll just use aloe. Is there any point taking Vit E as a supplement?

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                    • #11
                      Hey Nstocks, Congrads on starting a journal

                      Where's the rest of your thyroid panel - you mean he didn't take T4?? Your TSH is good though.

                      Also, your ferritin is pretty low. I know Derp will disagree with me about men and iron, but have you considered that you might be mildly anaemic?
                      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                      - Ray Peat

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                      • #12
                        I know, yay me!

                        Nope, no T4 or T3. I specifically went in saying that I want a full thyroid test but I didn't know what they were testing for until I got the results today. I understand that lower TSH is a good thing but unless I have other tests, it doesn't really conclude any issues. I'm certain the Doc thinks I'm a hypochondriac, even though I don't even go in that often. Why would a 22 year old go to the Docs unless there was really a problem (Embarrassing bodies anyone?)

                        The range for ferritin is huge and I'm on the very low side of that. I went to the Doctors several years ago with suspected anaemia (cold feet, dark circles and tired) but again, the Doc said I'm fine. (I couldn't get those test results though) Since that visit several years ago, I've always though I'm mildly anaemic but again, Doc wouldn't do anything or run more tests.

                        Did you get better tests done privately, but outside of the UK? I'm looking at BUPA but it's not going to be cheap and there's no way around not telling my parents since I'd have to travel. (well I'm sure I could make something up). I know health is priceless but putting down several hundreds 's for something to go either way is risky when I have little money.

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                        • #13
                          Hey, I know you don't want to go back to the doc, but you should really get your testosterone result. Perhaps you can call them and ask them to tell you over the phone?

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                          • #14
                            I don't know why I didn't mention the anaemia thing to you before... I meant to say it. It would explain a lot. And the fact that your ferritin is so low could indicate an issue there.

                            Dude, I feel your pain. My doctor had the exact same attitude to me. I kept going in, FIGHTING for different tests. They gave me T4, but refused me T3. I managed to get thyroid antibodies out of them, but they are kind of pointless.

                            Eventually I went to Poland and got EVERYTHING checked. It's way cheaper over there - I paid 100 for literally every test you can imagine. And I got my diagnosis. When I went back to my doctor he was a bit humbled by the fact that he fobbed me off, and it transpired I have a serious condition, completely fixed by medication

                            Anyway, it doesn't look like you got a good range of tests... If you're adamant you don't want to go back, I'm not quite sure what to advise...
                            "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                            In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                            - Ray Peat

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by diene View Post
                              Hey, I know you don't want to go back to the doc, but you should really get your testosterone result. Perhaps you can call them and ask them to tell you over the phone?
                              I think I'll try this tomorrow. I remember someone else on here (Yogabare maybe) whom asked for results over the phone but they had to go in. It's worth a try anyway.

                              Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                              I don't know why I didn't mention the anaemia thing to you before... I meant to say it. It would explain a lot. And the fact that your ferritin is so low could indicate an issue there.

                              Dude, I feel your pain. My doctor had the exact same attitude to me. I kept going in, FIGHTING for different tests. They gave me T4, but refused me T3. I managed to get thyroid antibodies out of them, but they are kind of pointless.

                              Eventually I went to Poland and got EVERYTHING checked. It's way cheaper over there - I paid 100 for literally every test you can imagine. And I got my diagnosis. When I went back to my doctor he was a bit humbled by the fact that he fobbed me off, and it transpired I have a serious condition, completely fixed by medication

                              Anyway, it doesn't look like you got a good range of tests... If you're adamant you don't want to go back, I'm not quite sure what to advise...
                              Wow, what made you go to poland in particular? Did someone recommend it or did you just find out that they are cheaper over there?

                              I take it your tests concluded hypothyroidism? Was you prescribed levothyroxine under NHS? Didn't the UK Doc want to test bloods again in the UK? I'd imagine things are different in poland. (If I went to poland it would cost 40 to get to airport. 80 passport and 60 for flight, plus the inner city transport and accommodation.) (BUPA also have an email I could use to get costs)

                              I know, it's really tough. Whenever I go the the Doctor, I get this feeling that he knows that I know more than I may let on and that I know he's not going to cure me. Like today, he was just saying "work on lifestyle" which may be true, but I bet if I was 40 or something he would do more for me. Also, when I leave the appointment, I just feel like I've used the Doc for some tests and that his advice is complete garbage, knowing that people like those on here are going to be able to help me way more than he is. It's like we both know that it's solely and completely down to myself to fix my issue which he thinks are due to social anxiety and the fact that I don't really get out much. He went on about those things more than my actually symptoms. Maybe this is the homework reading he likes to do - psychology.

                              Whilst I was waiting, this old woman (70 ish) was venting her frustration towards my Doctor at reception having just changed Doctors. The receptionist completely understood her frustration and couldn't provide answers for a missing letter noting that this woman had already been seen, but my Doctor denied seeing her. I doubt that changing Doctors will do me any good - any thoughts my Doctor has on me will only be passed onto someone else and I don't want the hassle of changing. (I'm in two minds to get a copy of my medical history which by law, I think we are entitled to now. Maybe this will give me the previous blood results from several years ago) Doc told me today that by 2014 everyone in the UK will be given a card to check medical records etc. digitally. This is fantastic! Right now it takes 21-40 days to get medical records and may cost 10. I think the Doc has to approve my application though which might be awkward but who cares, it's my legal right. http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/thenhs/...scription.aspx

                              I wonder what the chances are of the receptionist booking me a blood test for some other things. When I called up several years ago about anaemia I asked if I need to see the Doctor for a iron blood test. The receptionist told me I don't need to and booked it. When it was "clear" (I had to ring up and they told me straight away) I made an appointment to see the Doctor and he said there more than just iron to test... Again, they came back "clear".

                              I've got a lot of calls to make tomorrow about selling my car (I don't use it very often and I can walk the 2 miles to work), plus the insurance, MOT and tax all expire at the end of the month. I should get 2K which I wanted to save for when I more out but things take priority.

                              Technical question: How do they actually test bloods for these type of things? Is it like testing the PH of water or something where they use different solutions? I don't understand why they don't like giving test out yet they will give drug addicts stuff to help them, or even build specialist places for them to go. (I know I shouldn't get political - there are 2 sides to every story)
                              Last edited by Nstocks; 08-06-2013, 04:18 PM.

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