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    Last edited by Adrian; 10-04-2013, 01:34 AM.
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    • I'm somehow not used to eat so much sugar. Since July till September I haven't touched almost any fruit.. So I'm really moving on. I just am confused, because Mark doesn't recommend higher carb.. It's pretty strange to me , thats only It. Also I Read a lot about carbs helping to develop muscles. But which statement is really true? about squats - I use two 10 kg dumbbells



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      • Originally posted by Adrian View Post
        I'm somehow not used to eat so much sugar. Since July till September I haven't touched almost any fruit.. So I'm really moving on. I just am confused, because Mark doesn't recommend higher carb.. It's pretty strange to me , thats only It. Also I Read a lot about carbs helping to develop muscles. But which statement is really true?
        Unless you diabetic or have some kind of blood sugar problem, there really is no problem with carbs.

        Carbs give you energy and help you fuel your workouts. Sure, some people do fine without them, but if you enjoy foods that contain carbs and if you perform well from eating them, then why wouldn't you eat them?

        If you don't like eating sugary things like dates, fruit or whatever, then maybe target starch - potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice, etc. Hell, ask ebrady about rice, she's got some pretty damn fine looking rice pudding and lamb curry going on over in her journal.

        You don't have to go all out and eat as many carbs as, say, I do (300-400 a day most days) or people like Zach and Derpy who down them like crazy, especially since you'e not counting, but eat as many as you feel the need. Eat carbs - fruit, potatoes, whatever - and eat fats, too (eggs, meat, dairy, avocado, fish). And eat plenty of protein.
        Just don't worry about macronutrients. Just eat foods you enjoy, lots of them, plenty of protein and lift weights and you'll do great.

        Originally posted by Adrian View Post
        about squats - I use two 10 kg dumbbells
        That's what I started with, too! Fairly good starting point, them! Are the adjustable!
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        • As you suggested, I had some carbs today I'll post pics later, as I just came back home from gym. Before workout I had some tuna and goat cheese (mmmm...) and afterwards I had dried figs, banana and bowl of cottage cheese!
          I did bench and deadlifts today
          Now I have to go to school, I'll post bigger post later!
          Have a nice day, thank you for your nice words, I really appericate that You are a really helpful person here!!!
          Good luck!
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          • Day Sixty Three

            Hello

            I woke up later than usually today! That made me really happy. But it was really cold outside - all flowers are down :< The temperature at night was around -2C.
            In the morning I was in the gym for an hour. Then I had to dress up in formal suit and I headed to the church, where the holy mass was. After it, our head teacher gave a long, boring speech about history of our school (imagine - 425 years...), famous people who graduated from it and many other "INTERESTING" things. And we were standing outside the building, like crazy people.. Then another speech, about famous student of our school, who died this year (Sławomir Mrożek).. Friend of mine was sleeping on my shoulder xd So it ended around half past three in the afternoon.
            When I got home I made myself dinner, learned chemistry for a while and that's all to be honest. Also I watched some nice TV series, called 'Volare'. Really great one!

            Foods today:
            breakfast 1 (before gym): tuna with aged goat cheese and onion
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            breakfast 2 (after gym): bowl of cottage cheese, banana and dried figs
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            dinner: honey glazed salmon + spaghetti squash (boiled)
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            supper: leftovers squash, tomatoes and onions, 2 hb eggs, some feta cheese and some goat cheese XD - REFRIGERATOR CLEAN! (no photos, because that would be around 10 pics)

            workout: deadlifts 5 x 10 / 65 kgs, 15 kg dumbbells incline bench press 4 x 15, 15 kg dumbbells flys 4 x 15, and some abs exercises

            Tommorow it's Saturday, but... I will have to learn. MONDAY - I'll have chemistry test, then geography, on Wednesday - computer science and Friday - mythology. A lot of work, but I have some time also.

            I think I'm gonna hit the gym AT LEAST twice a week from now. It's impossible to make good deadlifts with kettlebell or dumbbells at home so that is the reason of my decision

            Have a good night now everyone, thank you for your responses!
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            • With the amount of exercise you are doing Mark recommends more carbs then 150, I think it is something like up to 100 extra. So adding some is not wrong. And as long as you are not getting fat and feel good you are doing fine, don't stress about exact amounts and counting, trust your body.
              Sunflower seeds are primal and a good source of vitamin E. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/quick...#axzz2gml95eZv
              Cashews are also primal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-it...#axzz2gmmGCz4A

              Have a nice weekend

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              • Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                breakfast 1 (before gym): tuna with aged goat cheese and onion
                breakfast 2 (after gym): bowl of cottage cheese, banana and dried figs

                dinner: honey glazed salmon + spaghetti squash (boiled)

                supper: leftovers squash, tomatoes and onions, 2 hb eggs, some feta cheese and some goat cheese XD - REFRIGERATOR CLEAN! (no photos, because that would be around 10 pics)
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                DAT SALMON
                It looks amazing. Seriously, you made me want it like mad.

                As for the rest of your meals... Love it. Breakfast looks good. Is that raw onion? Your taste buds are... interesting :P Your post-workout cottage cheese dish sounds GREAT! How much better was it with the dried fruit mix ins? I love dried fruit, myself. Heavenly. I've never had spaghetti squash... before... and I like the consumption of goat cheese.

                My one criticism or comment I will make here is: I think you should have a had a greater carb source along with that salmon. Have you ever baked your own potato chips? That should be a mound of potatoes and starch alongside that protein, dude, especially after a day of deadlifts! You can do so many things with them. Boil them, bake them and top with cottage cheese, bake them into wedges/fries - lately I've been frying mine, and they're amazing! Sub out some of that squash for a good source of starch if you can next time. Not only does your body need the calories (especially after those lifts), but I get the feeling that - if you're anything like me, anyway - you'll really enjoy them.

                Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                workout: deadlifts 5 x 10 / 65 kgs, 15 kg dumbbells incline bench press 4 x 15, 15 kg dumbbells flys 4 x 15, and some abs exercises

                I think I'm gonna hit the gym AT LEAST twice a week from now. It's impossible to make good deadlifts with kettlebell or dumbbells at home so that is the reason of my decision
                Nice workout! And yeah, I agree with you - can't do deads with dumbells or kettlebells. Can't really do squats, either. Was in a similar situation with you and the dumbells, same weight and everything.

                What's you rgym like? What kinda equipment do you have?

                Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                I woke up later than usually today! That made me really happy. But it was really cold outside - all flowers are down :< The temperature at night was around -2C.
                In the morning I was in the gym for an hour. Then I had to dress up in formal suit and I headed to the church, where the holy mass was. After it, our head teacher gave a long, boring speech about history of our school (imagine - 425 years...), famous people who graduated from it and many other "INTERESTING" things. And we were standing outside the building, like crazy people.. Then another speech, about famous student of our school, who died this year (Sławomir Mrożek).. Friend of mine was sleeping on my shoulder xd So it ended around half past three in the afternoon.
                When I got home I made myself dinner, learned chemistry for a while and that's all to be honest. Also I watched some nice TV series, called 'Volare'. Really great one!
                The bolded text made me laugh.

                Damn, -2C? That's cold. The coldest I've ever been was when I was out hunting with my girlfriends stepfather in the mountains. Ended up somehow gettin glutened and puking and crapping everywhere. It was messy. But he said he could hav never imagined a little guy could puke so much. Compliment? :3

                I think I've heard of Volare, actually! I've been watching Luther with my sister. Well, I was, but now we finished it - I highly recommend it.

                Have a great one, Adrian, and keep it up!
                Dark chocolate and coffee, running through my veins...

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                • Is that raw onion? Your taste buds are... interesting :P
                  Eating raw onions is nothing strange in Poland xD Really, baby onions are very good raw too..

                  How much better was it with the dried fruit mix ins?
                  MUCH better. Really sweet Thank you for this idea!

                  Have you ever baked your own potato chips? That should be a mound of potatoes and starch alongside that protein, dude, especially after a day of deadlifts! You can do so many things with them. Boil them, bake them and top with cottage cheese
                  I'm not a big fan of potatoes, but I like yams a lot. But I was very unlucky this week and I couldn't spot them anywhere in shops. Tommorow maybe...

                  What's you rgym like? What kinda equipment do you have?
                  There are some benches, barabells, dumbbells, rowing machine, cycling machine, bars and a cable machine.

                  Ended up somehow gettin glutened and puking and crapping everywhere. It was messy. But he said he could hav never imagined a little guy could puke so much. Compliment? :3
                  That couldn't be funny xd I hope it was some kind of...

                  Thank you for posting here I really appericate your help!
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                  • With the amount of exercise you are doing Mark recommends more carbs then 150, I think it is something like up to 100 extra. So adding some is not wrong. And as long as you are not getting fat and feel good you are doing fine, don't stress about exact amounts and counting, trust your body.
                    Sunflower seeds are primal and a good source of vitamin E. Quick and Easy Mushroom Sauce | Mark&#039;s Daily Apple
                    Cashews are also primal Is It All Just a “Paleofantasy”? | Mark&#039;s Daily Apple
                    Have a nice weekend
                    Thank you for that links! I didn't know that sunflower seeds are so high in PUFA's O.o I have to learn to listen to my body again, as after some time with eating disorders it's somehow deconstructed : /
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                    • Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                      Eating raw onions is nothing strange in Poland xD Really, baby onions are very good raw too..
                      I personally prefer mine fried/caremilised in butter...delicious. I've had them raw in side salads before, I'll admit they have a nice tang to them.

                      Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                      MUCH better. Really sweet : D Thank you for this idea!
                      Glad you did! My fave sweet cottage cheese is with dried fruit and frozen blueberries/raspberries, maybe a drizzle of honey. Mixed in some apples, once, wasn't too bad.

                      Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                      I'm not a big fan of potatoes, but I like yams a lot. But I was very unlucky this week and I couldn't spot them anywhere in shops. Tommorow maybe...
                      I never like them, either, til I learnt how to cook'em. You can probably make yam chips, too. Do you like white rice? That would - no, that does go well with salmon.

                      You inspired me to have fish for dinner btw. Probably gonna do what I suggested with you and have a crapton of taters or something :P Nom, cheers.

                      Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                      There are some benches, barabells, dumbbells, rowing machine, cycling machine, bars and a cable machine.
                      Hmm, have you tried barbell squatting yet? Military press? IMHO Barbell = best piece of equipment. Can be used for just about anything... even a spear, if you were a homicidal murder or something.

                      Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                      That couldn't be funny xd I hope it was some kind of...

                      Thank you for posting here I really appericate your help!
                      Nah, it was funny later, but at the time it was hellish. Every time I get glutened I feel like I literally want to die. It's like gut's being torn up and thrown around, I hate it. But later her stepdad and I laughed about it.

                      It is my pleasure, Adrian, now you just keep up the good work, yeah?

                      BTW, how are the gains going? Gone up at all?
                      Dark chocolate and coffee, running through my veins...

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                      • Hmm, have you tried barbell squatting yet? Military press? IMHO Barbell = best piece of equipment. Can be used for just about anything... even a spear, if you were a homicidal murder or something.
                        Nope, idk how to do barabell squatting alone. I think some assistance would be needed. I love doing clean and jerks with it!

                        Nah, it was funny later, but at the time it was hellish. Every time I get glutened I feel like I literally want to die. It's like gut's being torn up and thrown around, I hate it. But later her stepdad and I laughed about it.

                        It is my pleasure, Adrian, now you just keep up the good work, yeah?

                        BTW, how are the gains going? Gone up at all?
                        Not carb, not fats, but GLUTEN is the real evil in our world ;/
                        I'll check my weight tommorow, I hope for smth around 68 - 69 kg

                        Looks like another awesome day of food Adrian! Agreed with Shadowknight - dat salmon. Mmmmm.

                        435 years of school history...wow. My school had a really boring one and only for 50 years. i imagine the atmosphere was a one of anaesthesia

                        Have a good day!
                        425 years of boring history is much worse than 50 years xd I bought more salmon today! The best fish ever : 3

                        Day Sixty Four (To be countinued later)

                        I woke up around seven in the morning. Again it was very cold outside (-1,5C). All the flowers are DEAD Only a few pink roses are still looking great! Anyway, I did some shopping in the morning. I mean a lot of. I bought some chicken livers, avocados, mango, bananas, pork hams, whole chicken for tommorow roast and 40 eggs! Also some salmon, rainbow trout and a lot of cottage cheese. But I haven't found yams... ..again. When I was back at home I had to learn. Like 4 hours. I had serious brain fog, so I fueled it with figs, chocolate and coffee... And now I'm considering learning or having a rest. But I think I'll have to spend some more time on mythology and geography today. Also I need to make some kettlebell exercises. But not yet.. : / School first...

                        Meals today (till 4 o'clock in the afternoon)
                        breakfast: goat cheese, sliced pork roast, pear, carrots
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                        lunch (a.k.a. brain fuel) - dried figs, around 25g of 90% chocolate
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                        • dinner: chicken livers with grilled chilli and spaghetti squash (I had WAY MORE liver ofc, I made nice looking portion just to make a picture of it )
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                          TO BE CONTINUED !
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                          • So later I learned geography till 6.30 in the evening... Then I had my daily workout - 30 minutes kettlebell conditioning this time!
                            And afterwards - post workout snack: cottage cheese with banana and dried figs
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                            Supper was very easy: hb egg, two pears (caught only one on photo rest was in my stomach too fast) and some raw carrots
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                            Tommorow I'm gonna hit the gym and make some bench press and clean & jerks!
                            I'll post my results tommorow!
                            Have a nice night everyone : 3
                            Last edited by Adrian; 10-05-2013, 01:24 PM.
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                            • The meals look amazing! Love the look of the cottage cheese and banana. Nice to see you're also showing some dark chocolate love that chocolate is pretty nice - the Polish girl in my school brought me some back when she went home to see her family. Have you ever tried Green & Black's 85%? Omggggg it's good.

                              Btw - geography sounds rough. Je deteste la geographie! So glad I didn't take it in school :') it's really boring when all you study is rivers....

                              Looking forward to see your meals for today!
                              Thank you It's such a pit that you can't eat those bananas... But you can eat figs & dates! They are MUCH MUCH sweeter !
                              Yeah, dark chocolate is pretty good thing.. No .. G&B is not in polish stores... ]

                              I hate geography, but today I had to study chemistry and German... Omg I hate school sometimes...

                              Day Sixty Five

                              How to easily overeat - simple guide by Adrian.
                              Hello there Today I ate pretty damn TOO MUCH. But I have some excuses.
                              In the morning I woke up at 7 o'clock. I slept pretty good, but idk why, it was really hot. I mean the temperature was ok, but my body.. it just burned. I had to drink a lot. I read some articles, about carbs causing strange behaviours like that. It didn't feel uncomfortable, just strange.
                              At 9 there was a holy mass. I went to the church with parents, the weather was pretty nice - around 12 C, but cloudy. Later we went to supermarket, and guess what... I BOUGHT SOME YAMS! Finnally. Also, we visited furniture store, because soon we are going to rent our apartment and we need some equipment. I hope we will find some people to move in there quite quickly. After shopping I had pre-workout meal and headed to the gym. What I've been doing there:
                              cleans & jerks: 40 kg - 5 x 10
                              deadlifts: 70 kg - 2 x 10
                              hanging leg raises: 5 x 10
                              chest press with dumbbells: 15 kg - 15 x 6
                              flys with dumbbells: 15 kg - 6 x 15

                              When I got home I saw a prety chicken in the oven, with some extra wings and spaghetti squash...... Also some boiled carrots were waiting to be eaten.
                              I ate too much. I know it and I feel some kind of guilt, coming from my previous eating disorders.
                              Argh... And mom bought some grapes, which I was snacking through entire day. But who cares. Nevermind : )
                              Anyway, tommorow I'll have a big chemistry test. I'm really afraid of it. I mean REALLY STRESSED. I know that marks in first class in high school aren't really important... but something in my head tells me that I've got to have only A's and B's... Idk how I'll manage.

                              Foods today:
                              breakfast: mango and goat cheese, topped with diced dried figs
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                              pre-workout: apple and hb egg
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                              dinner (way too big): whole chicken with 4-5 extra wings, spaghetti squash, boiled carrots
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                              supper: cottage cheese with banana, leftovers squash topped with melted cheese (not on pics : ( )
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                              It was so easy to eat too much lol But to be honest: I enjoyed munchin all this stuff. Don't judge me please : )

                              Have a nice night everyone! And le'ts start this week positively :3 !
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                              • Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                                Nope, idk how to do barabell squatting alone. I think some assistance would be needed. I love doing clean and jerks with it! : D
                                I'd recommend learning. They're really fun! And one of the best lifts.

                                Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                                Not carb, not fats, but GLUTEN is the real evil in our world ;/
                                I'll check my weight tommorow, I hope for smth around 68 - 69 kg
                                That made me giggle. Not carbs, not fats but a protein! is the evil in this word. :P

                                Lemme know how it goes. I myself weighed in at 62.2 this morning - don't let me gain the next kilo before you do! :3

                                Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                                lunch (a.k.a. brain fuel) - dried figs, around 25g of 90% chocolate
                                WAAAAAAANT!!!!

                                And hey, I notice we nearly cross-posted, so 'll reply to the latest



                                Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                                Thank you It's such a pit that you can't eat those bananas... But you can eat figs & dates! They are MUCH MUCH sweeter !
                                Yeah, dark chocolate is pretty damn good thing.. No .. G&B is not in polish stores... ]
                                *Fixed :P And while you don't have G&B, you seem to have 90% handy. Jealous much.

                                Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                                Day Sixty Five
                                After shopping I had pre-workout meal and headed to the gym. What I've been doing there:
                                cleans & jerks: 40 kg - 5 x 10
                                deadlifts: 70 kg - 2 x 10
                                hanging leg raises: 5 x 10
                                chest press with dumbbells: 15 kg - 15 x 6
                                flys with dumbbells: 15 kg - 6 x 15
                                Pretty solid workout! Do you enjoy deadlifts? What's your form like? I love'em myself. Never done a clean and jerk before, though.

                                Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                                Foods today:
                                breakfast: mango and goat cheese, topped with diced dried figs

                                pre-workout: apple and hb egg

                                dinner (way too big): whole chicken with 4-5 extra wings, spaghetti squash, boiled carrots

                                supper: cottage cheese with banana, leftovers squash topped with melted cheese (not on pics : ( )
                                Wow. Dude, today looks excellent! 10/10, I crap you not, best day yet. Solid eats - I mean - a whole chicken! I am miring hard, dude! And kinda jealous. Last time I got to do something like that was last Christmas, and even then it was at the end of the day and because everyone else was didn't want it (ie, cold leftovers).

                                Solid workout, solid eats. I love it. And that cottage cheese?... You inspired me to do stuff with that again :P

                                Originally posted by Adrian View Post
                                How to easily overeat - simple guide by Adrian...

                                ...When I got home I saw a prety chicken in the oven, with some extra wings and spaghetti squash...... Also some boiled carrots were waiting to be eaten.
                                ...I ate too much. I know it and I feel some kind of guilt, coming from my previous eating disorders.
                                Argh... And mom bought some grapes, which I was snacking through entire day. But who cares. Nevermind : )
                                Anyway, tommorow I'll have a big chemistry test. I'm really afraid of it. I mean REALLY STRESSED. I know that marks in first class in high school aren't really important... but something in my head tells me that I've got to have only A's and B's... Idk how I'll manage.
                                ...
                                It was so easy to eat too much lol But to be honest: I enjoyed munchin all this stuff. Don't judge me please :
                                !
                                No one's judging you, bud.

                                You're a sixteen year old boy. Not only that, but you're a sixteen year old active boy. It would be weird if you weren't eating lots of food. When I was sixteen I was chugging food down left and right - pre-coeliac diagnosis, so not the best food choices, of course, which already puts you "ahead" of others your age.

                                Some teenage boys eat whole pizzas, gorge themselves on buttered popcorn and crisps in the movies and devour chocolate bars. Do they care? Nope. So why in the world feel guilty about snacking on some grapes and eating a chicken? When you put it in context, it's quite silly. :P

                                Like I said: today was your best day yet. Keep it up, Adrian, you're doing awesome
                                Dark chocolate and coffee, running through my veins...

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