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  • #76
    Originally posted by Jac View Post
    Now coffee - I never really got the hang of drinking it! It makes my heart jump around, interfering with sleep, and gives me the jitters, as well as tasting awful. I do love the smell though, lol.
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    • #77
      So I finally did the sensible thing . I emailed my doctor last night to ask about the sugar thing. I had expected that the desire/need/cravings for sugar would resolve as I 'progressed' and was disappointed that it wasn't happening. Turns out that I was supposed to still be taking the adrenal/thyroid supplement, which ran out about 10 days ago. Why, I had to ask, did he give me a 2 week supply and then an appointment in 6 weeks?? I assumed it was one of the 'short course' supplements but apparently not.

      When I look back, when I was taking the supplement I was feeling good. Very unstressed, happy, and not overly interested in non-nutritious food. Sigh. He's posting me out some more, and I stay on them for the foreseeable future. He is still confident that the cravings will resolve as I get better.

      He also asked how I was, and in replying I realised that stomach aches aren't a part of my daily landscape any more!! I can't remember the last time I took any pain relief of any sort .
      Started Feb 18 2011

      Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

      Journalling here

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      • #78
        Ahhh, the report is almost finished!! What a bizarre way to spend my weekend . . . but next weekend I'll take Friday off as well, and I have nothing major planned.
        Started Feb 18 2011

        Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

        Journalling here

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        • #79
          Back for another check-up today. But to back it up a little bit, I decided to do a bit of experimenting over the last week.

          Alcohol (cider) - aching joints and puffiness in all joints and belly for a couple of days after.

          Dairy - nothing. Not a twinge, not a spasm.

          Rice - bloated belly and that's all.

          Fruit - a bit of lower belly griping if I have too much.

          Onion - gas but nothing else

          Nuts - nothing

          Caffeine - palpitations and jitters - not worth it

          Grains - this was only some breadcrumbs around some rice appetisers, and I was up half the night with belly pains and gas. I needed pain relief to get any rest at all. Buckwheat, oats etc are all fine.

          Back to the appointment today: I was retested for grains and corn, and I was fine on all of them except for gluten. I still get a really strong allergy reaction to the stuff.

          Oestrogen is back where it should be, thyroid and adrenals are still under par but lots better than they were. So I have no new supplements (yaaaay), and can stop the mega B. I'm on the protein supplement, adaptan, probiotic and digestive enzymes fairly long term - maybe another year but definitely at least another few months. Oh, and O3 as well. Vit D levels are good.

          I have an appointment with the nurse for next Thursday to start the diet. Steve reckons that the next level of health requires the weight loss, and now that I'm not toxic/inflamed any more I should get good success at it. I go back to him for the next checkup in 3 months.

          It's time to kick the sugar habit. I definitely don't want to start the diet with a sugar crash, so . . . .
          Started Feb 18 2011

          Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

          Journalling here

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          • #80
            Not much to add today. I'm working on reducing the pain I get when I walk, and also want to build up my glutes and thighs to improve my balance. It's not that I can't balance, but it's like my body doesn't access the right muscles automatically so it's harder to stand on one leg or climb ladders. Plus I don't want to lose my butt when I lose weight . The sight of friends who've lost weight and don't fill out a pair of jeans any more is just plain sad.

            In other news - we're finally finishing the house reno! We did the kitchen and main bathroom when we moved in 3 years ago, then the bedrooms, ensuite and lounge last year (huuuuge project), and now have started the dining room and hall. Then the inside will be fully updated and decorated. The first job was pulling down a huge chimney and hearth - all done.

            I've been watching The Block - a reno competition based in Auckland - and feel jealous of the amount of money they're spending. Last week it was around $60k for the kitchen and dining!! Holy crap, that's almost my total budget for the house! Mind you, I don't get to update the furniture or appliances, much less add 'art work' to the rooms. The structural work and painting etc has to be done first, then maybe some new furniture when the sales are on. At the same time, we've tamed our garden . Now we can add new gardens and quirky things to the outside, because most of the big weeds are out and the pruning is finally done. It took about 6 truckloads to get rid of it all over the last 3 years!
            Last edited by Jac; 10-07-2013, 02:12 PM.
            Started Feb 18 2011

            Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

            Journalling here

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            • #81
              Hi Jac, I just found you mentioning leaky gut in another thread & thought I'd poke around. Your progress with healing the leaky gut is very encouraging! I'm self-diagnosed (with leaky gut & IBS-C), but probably gong back to my holistic doctor next month for more testing/complaining. I have joint pain from excess sugar & break out in pimples usually, and starches give me bad gas and make the constipation worse. Magnesium citrate is the only thing working for me right now for motility . If this doc doesn't have any more answers for me, I'm going to have to save up for a naturopath.
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              • #82
                Hi nameless! Yeah, this is my third PB journal - pretty much one per year from when I started trying to heal myself. I've experimented with almost all the protocols here, but have had very limited success. This time it's like all the pieces of the jigsaw are coming together at the same time, and it's great . My doctor said that everything I did was really useful, and probably without primal I'd have moved into chronic fatigue by now, but the mega supplementation along with the food is what's making the difference now. When I first went to him I had reactions to heaps of foods, but now it's only gluten that's left. He thinks in a year or so I'll be able to relax about the gluten as long as I don't have it frequently.

                The difference I've found with this doctor is that he totally believes that the body can heal itself, so his position is that it should also be able to manage all the toxins we are exposed to. He's had a really strong focus on all the elimination organs - gut, kidneys and liver - to get me back into balance. I didn't really think it was possible, and inside I'm still a bit skeptical! I'm waiting to see if the weightloss programme works.
                Started Feb 18 2011

                Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                Journalling here

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                • #83
                  Things are going pretty well. I'm still eating sugar though. I go on the prescribed diet next Thursday, so I'm not sweating it til after the weekend. Then detox from it, do the diet, and have a plan for staying off it once the diet phase is over. I'm impatient for the diet to start - which is a good space to be in, I think.

                  The good stuff - I'm energetic, calm, focused, and laughing. I'm also sleeping OK, although we're in that funny season where the winter blankets are way hot, and it's not warm enough for the summer blanket. I keep waking up to throw them off, and then pull them over me again. There's gotta be a better way, lol. I'm also getting more interested in exercise - which is a good indicator that my energy levels are up.

                  We've been taking both dogs to obedience classes, and I'm absolutely delighted that I've been able to get our older hound to sit!! It's not comfortable for her, so I don't ask her to do it for long, and she's been actively trained NOT to sit, so this is a real milestone. Makes me feel like a champion dog trainer
                  Started Feb 18 2011

                  Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                  Journalling here

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                  • #84
                    This morning I got both dogs to sit before I fed them. It wasn't a fast process, lol. But they did it.

                    Working at home today - it's raining again, and not at all warm. Still feeling good. I've ordered a swiss ball and a balance board from trademe - was hoping to get at least one of them today, but I guess it's going to be next week. I'm going to take the swiss ball to work, to sit on at my desk and to use against the wall for squats. I need to get up and move around more, so that's the perfect place for it. Not sure about the balance ball - I'll have to see how it works on carpet. The living room could be good for that one.
                    Started Feb 18 2011

                    Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                    Journalling here

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                    • #85
                      Jac, perhaps you can join my Movember challenge!!!!

                      Well done on the dog training. I always make my two sit and "wait" before they can have food. Once they get the ok its like wathcing a vacuum cleaner

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                      • #86
                        Hmmm - not sure about Movember, depends on the diet and how energetic I am. I'll know soon!

                        The dogs sitting is a huge achievement for all of us . They're actually taught not to sit for their racing lives, and their hindquarters are so muscly that it's not comfortable for them at all. I don't ask them to do it for any length of time, just a few moments is fine. We're getting the hang of 'down' as well, from a stand rather than a sit. It is funny, though, when we're eating and turn around to see the dogs sitting and waiting for a reward. Sorry girls, it doesn't work that way!!

                        Had a truly crap weekend. I'm pretty positive it was from dairy!! Aching joints, stomach ache, constipation, brain fuzz. I also had gluten, though, the weekend before. I think there's a cross-reactivity there - if I'm totally grain free, I can eat some dairy, but if I've had gluten it makes my gut inefficient and therefore I can't digest dairy. I had wine, too. Not good at all.

                        Tony has decided he's going to do the diet with me. He is probably about 10-15kgs over his best weight, and tends to lose it easily when he chooses to. One of my worries was how I'd cope with all the little extras he brings into the house, like heaps of fruit, iced tea etc. Hopefully it'll work for him, and then he'll stay supportive when he's lost all his weight and I've still got a bucket load to go.

                        I was reading this morning about the process of metabolic healing, and about the expectation of weight gain and sugar cravings while it happens. I found out that the time it takes for thyroid and adrenal hormones to increase, and insulin resistance to decrease, is when it's logical for the body to store fat. Once the hormones go to their healthy levels, weight loss starts to happen. Interesting stuff. Rather than waiting for it to 'just happen' though, it is useful to push a bit so the insulin sensitivity improves faster. God, I really hope this is a healing thing - otherwise even if I do lose weight I'll just gain it again. I keep flashing back to the 'microdiet' when I had only these horrible diet drinks for over 2 weeks and I didn't lose a single ounce.

                        So now I'm waiting to feel healthy again after messing up, and waiting to start the diet, and waiting for my swiss ball and balance board to arrive . . . and waiting for summer to arrive as well!! I guess I could do some work while I wait
                        Started Feb 18 2011

                        Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                        Journalling here

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                        • #87
                          OK, here I go. I have the drops and the instructions. Today is day 1 - today and tomorrow I load on high fat and calorically dense foods. I weighed in at 99.4kg on the surgery scales this morning - that's horrible, and is about 14kg heavier than I got on the ketosis diet . I cried.

                          I gave the nurse a pretty hard time this morning. Then I eased off, because her understanding of the programme just isn't at the level I need. I bought a book by Shaun Watson, an Australian naturopath, who is the author of the programme and he sells his own product. I get it. I don't necessarily believe it, but I get it. There is a huge focus on the period of time immediately after the low calorie diet, and an equally big focus on lifetime eating to maintain health afterwards. It's all very paleo, so I can quite easily imagine my lifetime eating. What I can't imagine is the getting there.

                          They have these horribly exposing scales. They involve 4 footpads and 2 handheld thingies, and showed my weight, body fat percentage of 49.4% (sob), total body water of 37.9% (it should be closer to 60%, so I'm quite dehydrated), visceral body fat of 13 (I don't know if that's a percentage - but it's just in the high risk range for metabolic disorders), muscle mass of 47.8 (again, not sure quite what this is, but it's to measure changes over time rather than an absolute), bone mass of 2.5kg (light for my weight, but would be perfect if I weighed around 70kg), a bmr of just over 1500cal (good to know for maintenance) and a metabolic age of 65 years. fuck.

                          The diet is for anything between 21 and 40 days - yeah, I'll be on the 40 days. It's possible to lose between 10 and 15 kgs in that time, and I have to stop the diet if I lose 15kgs and go onto maintenance. Maintenance is the same amount of time as the diet, and involves higher fat and more protein, but no starches.

                          The actual diet is 2 meals a day (but they can be split into 4 smaller meals if I want). Each meal is 100g of lean meat, one type of low/no carb vege from a specified list, one rice cracker (the only gluten free option), and an apple, handful of strawberries, orange or 1/2 grapefruit. No added fat, but no restrictions on spices etc. Apple cider vinegar is allowed. The total for the day is 500 calories.

                          The idea of the drops is that they shift the hard-to-mobilise brown fat stores from belly, ass, thighs, rather than the easily accessible subcutaneous fat. The diet is planned so that there is just enough protein to spare muscle mass but not enough for energy.

                          I will weigh myself every morning, and I think I might do blood ketosis measurements as well (because I'm very curious about how this works). I'm expecting to be hungry for the first couple of days - perhaps until ketosis kicks in???
                          Started Feb 18 2011

                          Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                          Journalling here

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                          • #88
                            Wow, Jac, that all sounds pretty damn extreme. I hope it works for you. You've come a long way in healing, wishing you much success in the next phase.
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                            • #89
                              Thanks GS . I'm glad I don't have a really popular journal, since there will be plenty of people who don't agree with what I'm doing . . . but it's lovely to have people like you and seas comment on the healing. It puts me in a different place, mentally, where I can see the difference between the sick and confused start to this journey and where I am now. I was taking anti-inflammatories just to survive, several times a day. So yeah, this is extreme but it feels positive.

                              I weighed in this morning at 97kg. I've just had creamed rice for breakfast - I used to crave this stuff, but I don't think it will stay on my list of memorable foods! Today I need to shop for the diet food - this is not going to be an expensive shop, lol. Rump steak, chicken breast, lamb steak, rice crackers and leafy greens. I'm pleased that the first 2 days of the diet will be the weekend, so hopefully by the time I go back to work the hunger pangs will be gone and I'll be in ketosis. The last day of doing this is 27 November, which means I'm in the high fat, more protein phase for Christmas day - excellent .

                              I've been reading the motivational pics thread, and there are all these women who are around my age doing chin-ups, hikes, handstands etc. Every step towards getting healthy is a step closer to being able to do something like this for myself.
                              Started Feb 18 2011

                              Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                              Journalling here

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                              • #90
                                Hi Jac. I wish you well on the diet. that sounds like so little food to me. but then i do exercise alot. i know the time before last that i stuffed my ankle, i just lay in bed for a week and drunk coffee and took painkillers. i wasnt hungry so i hardly ate a thing and i lost about 5kgs. so hunger i think is often related to activity level and also proximity to the pantry.

                                I've been reading the motivational pics thread, and there are all these women who are around my age doing chin-ups, hikes, handstands etc. Every step towards getting healthy is a step closer to being able to do something like this for myself.
                                the world is your oyster!

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