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  • Originally posted by peril View Post
    That would be a great pity, but I know what you mean. One wouldn't want heavy handed moderation here, but they are making the forum a place in which Mark would not be comfortable. Newbs must be so confused
    Yes. We can't just ban all of them (even if I would like to) but anyone starting out must get massively turned around when trying to ask a question since they are the most vocal presence around right now. Not the most numerous. Just the loudest.

    Originally posted by peril View Post
    Perhaps you're just hypothyroid
    Isn't that the cause of every malady known to humanity?

    Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
    Peat-arians = followers of Ray Peat. I am really good at ignoring people, especially when they are at least being nice.
    Some of them are substantially less than nice.

    Originally posted by Finnegans Wake
    You just need to eat some sugar. Pixie stick?
    Heh! Thanks, FW.

    Originally posted by honeybuns View Post
    Okay. I know I sound uninformed, but who is Ray Peat and why would people follow him?
    He's a third rate has been college professor who passes himself off as a doctor to sell progesterone cream (aka snake oil) as the cure all for every problem. You would follow him if you were scientifically ignorant and wanted someone to tell you that it is good for you to eat lots of sugar.

    Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
    He's another diet guru, bashing paleo/primal and probably WAPF diets. I guess he still believes that saturated fats are healthy, but basically thinks that all body problems are based on thyroid issues, and that it should be treated with more starches & sugars (including refined, not just fruit & natural sources) and less fat & meat. Or something like that. I don't care too much to figure it out
    The thinks salmon is unhealthy (OMG, the PUFAs) fermented foods are unhealthy, etc. But getting half of your calories from dairy then adding lots of sugar and coffee and OJ is great for you.

    Originally posted by CarbDodger View Post
    jeez- jeez-don't go-what about people like me- id likely have been having chemo by Christmas if it weren't for you. possibly dead in 2 years
    do not underestimate your influence or advice. shit- i still need you about... why isn't there a frigging sad face!
    Oh, CD. You continue to amaze me with your progress. Don't worry. Even if I go, we will keep in touch.

    Originally posted by DCarr10760 View Post
    So I Googled "Ray Peat"
    In the search box as I typed it auto-filled suggested topics. There were:
    Ray Peat Diet
    Ray Peat Forum
    Ray Peat Quack
    I'm not sure I need to research any further.
    Please stay, Paleobird!
    Now I'm picturing a bunch of ducks quacking on the RP threads.

    Originally posted by Sabine View Post
    In the interest of fairness, I did the same thing for 'Mark Sisson'. I was relieved to find
    Mark Sisson Diet
    Mark Sisson P90x
    Mark Sisson Protein Powder.
    Not too scary. And the pictures that popped up were pretty nice, too! Ray Peat's scared me a little.
    Ray Peat is quite elderly and has a habit of ignoring any research that has been done since WWII. He goes back to old source material as "proof" for his ridiculous claims.

    Originally posted by quelsen View Post
    fads come and go
    truths are eternal
    so are you
    Awwwwwww. Honey Badger! Stop that or I'm going to cry.

    Originally posted by excursivey View Post
    Please don't go! (clings to your pant leg...wait is that creepy?...)
    You guys are all the best.

    I will see what I can do about this situation. Perhaps write a letter to Mark.

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    • Adding my voice to your fan-chorus PB .

      Although I have to admit I toyed with the Peat idea - after all, he gives approval for me to eat sugar, and I dearly love sugar . Fortunately I overcame that brief temptation, lol.

      I do worry for the newbs, though - this forum can lead people a very long way from the primal vision .
      Started Feb 18 2011

      Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

      Journalling here

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      • Originally posted by Jac View Post
        Adding my voice to your fan-chorus PB .

        Although I have to admit I toyed with the Peat idea - after all, he gives approval for me to eat sugar, and I dearly love sugar . Fortunately I overcame that brief temptation, lol.

        I do worry for the newbs, though - this forum can lead people a very long way from the primal vision .
        Thanks , Jac.

        Sure, when you tell legions of junkies that their drug of choice is really a health food, you are going to get popular quickly.

        I wonder if Mark monitors things around here much. I wonder if he realizes how far off the message things are. This forum is going to lose anything resembling credibility if this goes on much longer. The basic message of *ancestral* health is getting lost when refined sugar is being touted as a healthy food and dairy makes up 50% of one's calories.


        Maybe we should organize a counter-attack. Have a bunch of us go over to the RP forums and start "trolling" with our Primal "nonsense". Muhahahahah..................

        Nah, better things to do.

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        • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
          Maybe we should organize a counter-attack. Have a bunch of us go over to the RP forums and start "trolling" with our Primal "nonsense". Muhahahahah..................

          Nah, better things to do.
          Exactly. I read somewhere recently where someone was wondering why haters have so much more energy than the rest of us do - but being a troll takes up valuable living time.
          Started Feb 18 2011

          Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

          Journalling here

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          • Still, it could be fun to start a profile, make some inane comments and then drop some bombs in a month about how your trigs are now off the chart and your migraines now require narcotics or something. That might keep their in fighting busy for long enough to clear the crap out of here!
            Last edited by Mud Flinger; 08-01-2013, 08:08 PM. Reason: Trigs, not trips! Darn auto correct!

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            • Originally posted by Jac View Post
              Exactly. I read somewhere recently where someone was wondering why haters have so much more energy than the rest of us do - but being a troll takes up valuable living time.
              One wonders how they manage. I'm retired and I don't have time for that. How does someone who works do it (unless of course they are trolling on work time)?

              Originally posted by Mud Flinger View Post
              Still, it could be fun to start a profile, make some inane comments and then drop some bombs in a month about how your trips are now off the chart and your migraines now require narcotics or something. That might keep their in fighting busy for long enough to clear the crap out of here!
              Hehehehehe. You're evil. I like you.

              I sometimes suspect that some of the "I tried Primal and <insert horrible physical reaction here>" posts are exactly this in reverse.

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              • Where do you think I get my evil ideas from? I always wonder if these people are authentically looking for help, trolling or just trying to get attention!

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                • Maybe the Peatarians will spill their (weight loss) colas in their keyboard and knock it off.
                  Last edited by Emofedom; 08-01-2013, 10:07 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Mud Flinger View Post
                    Where do you think I get my evil ideas from? I always wonder if these people are authentically looking for help, trolling or just trying to get attention!
                    It's really rather sad. Pathetic I guess is the word I'm looking for.

                    Originally posted by Emofedom View Post
                    I've only been reading marks daily apple for just a month now and I can say as a some what newbie, Ray Peat, is a hack. Just in five minutes looking at his site and forum tells me that. How in the world can a person get confused and fall for the hog wash? It's common sense people. For instants he said he was a follower of Paleo yet he is an advocate for sugar. Want to lose weight, drink more Cola! (Seriously!?!?) The sugar will make your metabolic system speed up and you'll drop the weight! (Who would buy into this).
                    I wonder what percentage of the world actually thinks Cola isa good weight loss drink!

                    Sorry...Getting off my soap box now!


                    Em
                    "Adapt and Overcome"
                    Hi Em. Good to know there is a sensible newbie out there who can tell science from BS. There are a lot of people who are serious sugar junkies though and, if you tell them sugar is a health food, they will follow you anywhere, even jumping right off the side of the big rock candy mountain.

                    Hopefully this whole thing is like the spudfest, a phase that passes.

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                    • Lol I figured my post might be a little too harsh so I edited.... Lol I didn't think anyone would catch that!


                      Em
                      "Adapt and Overcome"

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                      • Originally posted by Emofedom View Post
                        Lol I figured my post might be a little too harsh so I edited.... Lol I didn't think anyone would catch that!


                        Em
                        "Adapt and Overcome"
                        I was checking before signing off for the night.
                        What you wrote wasn't harsh at all. It was the truth. Ray Peat needs to be called out for the charlatan and snake oil salesman that he is. And his followers need a splash of cold coca cola in the face to wake them up.

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                        • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                          I am about ready to give up on this forum.
                          ..... sniff, sniff... wipe wipe......

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                          • if you leave, we need to be on facebook together. *need*

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                            • There's giving up on the forum, which pretty much I have done, and then there's giving up on individual (and individuals') threads, which I resolutely refuse to do. No point battling with peeps, you'll never change their mind (if they even have functioning higher organs - I sometimes find myself doubting this).
                              I like badgers, books and booze, more or less in that order.

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                              • Can I join the please don't go party, please? It would be tragedy if you departed.

                                They 'Peaters' may be an irritant, but I'm sure a girl as strong as yourself can put them to one side and just ignore um, I do!

                                And if they want to suck that shit up, let um, leaves more proper chow for us....

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