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    I'm starting a new thread because I'm recommitting to tracking my food for a while. While my sugars are still under control, my weight loss seems to have slowed way down, and that seemed to coincide with the cessation of tracking my food.

    So, my 30-day challenge for the spring: track my food for a month and see if doing that makes a difference in my weight. Today I tipped the scales at 319 - not terrible, but a little higher than I'd been a month ago. I'm also not sleeping as well as I'd like to be now that the days are longer (sunlight and I don't get along very well) so I'm hoping that keeping better track of my food intake will let me say "no" when I need to.

    The hardest thing for me is not going to be avoiding carbs, but keeping protein intake to a reasonable amount. Almost all carbs hurt me directly and near-immediately: grains and beans cause my arthritis to come back, and other carbs make my blood sugars spike. I've got control of those, but my protein intake has been kind of out of control. Too much protein and I might as well be eating carbs because of gluconeogenesis. A diabetic body doesn't give up the fight to force you to eat carbs easily, and gluconeogenesis can be one of its main lines of backup if you restrict all other carb sources. So I'm going to keep my protein intake below what my best-guess is for my LBM (about 170#), and have no more than .7 gm per pound of LBM for the next month, each day. That means no more than 120 grams of protein per day (and a trip to the health food store to buy another jar of coconut oil!) and going back to weighing and measuring, which I haven't been doing. No more by-eyeball stuff (except in restaurants, for which I'm just going to have to Deal) for at least the next 30 days.

    So, there it is. For those looking for my previous Primal Challenge Journal, it's here: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...(Griff)/page38
    Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

    Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


    Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

    My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

  • #2
    Griff,
    Great! I'm basically doing the exact same thing- even with keeping protein moderate.

    I will be following along with you for sure- I'll imagine we're doing this challenge together so I have a partner in crime!

    :-)
    Besos

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    • #3
      Ditto here. Exactly the same. I stopped tracking a while ago and weight loss almost stalled for a few months. Started tracking again and realized I was eating too much protein. Some days it's a little hard to keep my fat ratio up to 80%, but I'm getting better at it. Coconut cream! It's delicious and helps keep the fat ratio up. I'm interested to see how this goes for you, Griff, and as usual, I'm impressed with your logical approach.

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      • #4
        Griff, have you read the book by Nora Gedgaudas? She is probably the worrywart of the century, but she describes some interesting theories about moderating protein. The TOR pathway -- the sirtuin genes --

        She thinks that very moderate protein (well under 100 gm./day, more like 45-70? I should look it up) with adequate fat, can get us into that underfeeding/longevity mode without starving ourselves. Got me interested. The idea that my sore muscles might heal with less protein instead of more and more was counter-intuitive for me, but I already knew gluconeogensis does keep one sugar-burning. I hadn't come across the idea before that with lots of protein we're into baby-making (and to heck with longevity), while with less we are playing a waiting game -- better repair and rejuvenate, times too hard for making babies, maybe they'll improve later.

        Since I've never had a baby and now am 64, there is some irony to all this ...

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        • #5
          You bring up a really good point, Piano-etc., about the moderate protein. I've read Nora's book and she resonated with me. I hate this site with all of its advertising, but nevertheless it has some great content along these lines: http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/fat-not-protein.html.

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          • #6
            Thanks Griff. I also have committed to tracking again. While I've not experienced weight loss, I do know I feel better VLC. I'll have to make sure and keep my fat up but that's tough.

            Keep it up...am supporting you!
            Even if you fall flat on your face, at least you're moving forward!

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            • #7
              Griff, I'm delighted to see a new journal from you and I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines. Grow or die is the biological mandate; we carboniferous lifeforms can never reach a state of grace. Every day we start from scratch and step into new frontiers -- or we drift backwards, standing still. Your passion leaves no doubt for me that your progress has still only just begun. Carpe verem!

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              • #8
                So yesterday:

                I was within 10 grams of my fat and protein goals so I'm not going to worry about that. And dinner was fantastic - a four-egg scramble with sautee'd mushrooms and onions in butter, and six strips of Trader Joe's applewood smoked uncured bacon. I'm still full.

                And my BG average was in the 90s the whole time.
                Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

                Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


                Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

                My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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                • #9
                  Well played, Griff!!!

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                  • #10
                    Hi Griff, I haven't posted to you before but I've lurked around on a few of your posts. How's your training plan looking at the moment?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by stevew View Post
                      Hi Griff, I haven't posted to you before but I've lurked around on a few of your posts. How's your training plan looking at the moment?
                      Hi Steve,

                      I don't train. I just walk. A lot. I have no intention of ever training.
                      Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

                      Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


                      Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

                      My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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                      • #12
                        Still hitting within 10 grams of my fat and protein goals. Still keeping my BG in the 90s. It's all good.
                        Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

                        Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


                        Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

                        My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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                        • #13
                          Was well below my protein goal today, and even though slightly over caloric limit, it wasn't much over. Today's average BG: 92.5.
                          Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

                          Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


                          Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

                          My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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                          • #14
                            Griff,
                            Just a quick question for you: How are you calculating your protein goal?
                            I'm just wondering, cause I'm doing an experiment on myself...

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                            • #15
                              Hey Kuno1chi - Since I posted, I adjusted a bit. I was doing a best-guess of my LBM and boy, was it off. I used the YMCA formula calculator (at http://www.webcalcsolutions.com/Fitn...y-Fat-YMCA.asp) to calculate my body fat and lean body mass, then multiplied LBM by .7 to get the approximate number of grams of protein that I can have per day, which is about 165g/day. (I rarely go over that - most protein foods, like meat and cheese, are 7g of protein per ounce.)
                              Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

                              Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


                              Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

                              My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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