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  • Do you feel like salt is helping at all? I gave better digestion when im hydrated and dont overdo salt/fat. Those two really dry things out and could make you constipated. So much conflicting stuff, i know.

    There are really two ways i would tell you to go if you were to listen to me. One, follow Matt Stone diet. Calorie dense, high carb, highly palatable food. Or two, follow my diet pretty strictly, mostly fruit, low fat, food amount of protein, etc.

    The first would prob help with your temps but maybe not so much with digestion and you will gain fat. The second mifht keep you cold, its hard to say but it should help with digestion and hormones. Either way you need to pick a plan and stick to it.

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    • Well my pee isn't clear anymore and I don't feel as "watery" - if that makes any sense and I'm not peeing every 2 hours like I use to. I don't eat a tonne of salt a day, probably 1-2 tea spoons on fruit days, and 3-4 on days I have meat. That's added salt though so if I eat cheese or chips,I;m getting a little amount from them.

      I do listen, Zach! I did Matt Stone's diet and stuffed my face to get the calories in, ignoring how I felt (huge stomach and fat) and I didn't feel as constipated, just large. Your diet is easier to follow and the only issue I have, following Matt's advice is apparently fruit is too cooling and not good for thyroid but good for digestion. (but I didn't feel warm on Matt's diet either) Also my protein is very low most days and I tend to eat some junk food. That doesn't bother me, but if mixing two approaches is 'bad', then yes, I need to prepare more and really understand where I can get protein from. Also, with your low fat diet, how are you counting meat into that, since minced lamb is quite fatty? OR do you mean low fat from dairy and junky food?

      Do you think it would be useful to post what I eat either here on in a new journal? Not super detailed with timing etc. but just so that I'm accountable if I'm not sticking to the plan? I haven't written a food journal for weeks because I personally didn't give myself any feedback and it's just left on my desktop.
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      • Originally posted by Nstocks View Post

        Gaining a lot of weight fast and I eat well with no change in caloric intake (MDA Note: I've lost 7 lbs in the past week though, should I mention that? I've been under eating due to loss of appetite and constipation. I've gained about 14lbs since my last visit to the Doctors 3 years ago, and that was within the past 2 months)
        Don't mention the weight loss. That will just confuse the doctor. Just say that you gained 14 pounds within a short period of time even though you didn't change your diet.


        Originally posted by Nstocks View Post
        Testosterone

        Low levels of testosterone affect overall energy and mood. I feel like there is no sense of wellbeing and my life isn’t going anywhere. No sexual desire and problems maintaining an erection.
        I don't think you should tell him that you're life isn't going anywhere. You want to avoid saying things that make him think you're depressed. Just say that you have low energy, no sexual desire, problems maintaining erection, and that you just don't feel great in general. This has got to be enough for him to give you a testosterone test.



        Originally posted by Nstocks View Post
        If I have the tests done and there are signs of Low thyroid and/or Testosterone, it's likely the Doc will give me something, don't you think? I really don't want to take meds because they probably have bad side effects and I could be on them for years. Should I tell the Doc, after the tests, that I want to try and recover naturally, or just take his prescription but never collect the meds? Obviously his response will depend on what the tests tell him in terms of severity.
        I think you should worry about this part after you get your test results. Make sure you ask for a copy of the results, and don't just take his word for it (even if he tells you that everything is fine). In general, I think if you're really hypothyroid, it is recommended that you take synthetic hormones because having low thyroid hormones actually cause a lot of problems. It would be better to take replacement hormones and do dietary/lifestyle adjustments at the same time. But, in the end, it's up to you, of course. Still, no need to worry about it until after the test.

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        • Yea matts approachusually helps people on extreme diets get over their ED but it doesnt really fix smaller issues like hypo/digestion because its too vague. I also dont believe fruit to be cooling unless its all you eat and dont eat any salt/drink tons of water.

          No you dont have to journal if you dont want, its time consuming and stressful. I think you should write out a plan and then follow it for a month straight and then reevaluate. Take detailed before/after marks and maybe follow trends like weight/temp/energy.

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          • diene, Good points there, I think it's easy to overcomplicate these symptoms to really get my points across to get the tests I need. The medication thing is after becoming educated in Paleo lifestyle and approaches to better health (though I didn't get healthier really)... I think it's hard to accept when one has to rely on drugs, but like you said, we'll see how the tests go first.

            Zach, the plan is good for shopping which I still do a little bit. Things like knowing how long it's going to take the fruit to ripen can mean the difference between eating for 3 days or not. (sticking with the plan that is). I still journal but it's not a specific food breakdown journal. It's just a place to write how I feel, what I ate etc. (Dayone app)
            Last edited by Nstocks; 07-22-2013, 11:59 AM.

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            • OHMAGURSH

              I think Cici should send that pic you requested as a birthday gift. HEY HEY.
              Is it weird in here, or is it just me?

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              • Oh yeah, happy birthday, Zach!!! You're almost as old as I am.

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                • Originally posted by diene View Post
                  Oh yeah, happy birthday, Zach!!! You're almost as old as I am.
                  Ditto what Diene wrote. All of it

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                  • Happy birthday man !

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                    • Happy 30th Zach my main bro
                      Make America Great Again

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                      • Yea yea thanks guys. Fuck im old.

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                        • 30 is the new 20

                          plus you lookin' fine gurl
                          Make America Great Again

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                          • I've just come back from the Doctors and I think it went fairly well in some respects. Here's the story:

                            I went through my symptoms (which I don't even think he really listened to, he just kept saying "Hmmm") and went on to say that I spoke to a friends Dad whom is a Doctor and he suggested that I could be hypothyroid and have low testosterone.

                            After speaking about my issues, he took my blood pressure, weighed me, looked in my eyes, had me lie on the bed and breathe in and out as he felt my stomach. Altough I said my temp is always low, he didn't take it. We then sat down and spoke about a few things. He made suggestions that I'm depressed which I denied because my mind is optimistic and I don't let my mind slip into a slump of negativity, feeling sorry for myself or blaming other things. I said that I'm often sad because of how I feel (so body, not mind) and honestly my mind isn't the issue.

                            He asked how my diet is, if I smoked or consumed much alcohol. I said my diet is good, little processed foods but I eat the majority of the food groups. I don't smoke and alcohol makes me sick - haven't drunk any in 5 years.When we spoke about bloating, he specifically asked if I avoid and food groups and I just said that I don't really eat much gluten. We spoke about social issues and anxiety where he suggested I have no self confidence and that I should make friends. The confidence thing isn't true - I'm much more confident than the last time we spoke and I actually think my retail job has helped with that. (I don't understand how he concluded I lacked confidence sine I'm spilling my guts with issues here and I spoke out when I disagreed with something he said) I agree that I should get out more with people my age but mentioned that I don't have common interests with many people and that those who seem to socialise more are typically the ones whom drink in order to socialise. (he agreed but said there are other things to do. Sure, but when one feels like I do, meeting people isn't a priority and I've always preferred my own company)

                            I had plenty of friends at uni, but we all know those friendships end once uni ends, unless you live closely to those people. I have some friends at work, my age, and they just moan about how shit the job is and that they can't wait for the weekend to get drunk! I don't have a problem with that, and of course, at work they are bound to just talk about work stuff. If we really had things in common, we would talk about other stuff. (for instance a older woman I work with has a Son in law whom is an architect. I graduated in architecture so we had something to talk about!) I'm not the type to please people just so they will like me - hey, that's probably why I don't have any real friends. I completely know that I'm limiting myself in terms of social interaction but believe me, if I could travel, I would go to conferences, events, shows all with my interests at heart - design. (I can't afford a train ticket to London for instance. I know it looks like an excuse, but there's a point where some things really do require money. I speak to a few people online about things I'm interested in and read about those interests. It's always been a dream to actually get out and meet the people in real life. Perhaps when i sell my car I can. Having a car and studying for 3 years with a tiny income isn't easy but those are the choices I made to gain education in what I was looking to be a career. I've learned a lot from uni and don't regret it one bit. If I did it again, I would definitely stay on campus (at 5,000 a year) so that I would be people whom are doing the same things as me.

                            Anyway, he said that I should have a "full blood test" including thyroid, testosterone, bone marrow (?), glucose, liver and some other things I can't remember. Whilst looking at my medical history, he said "I doubt the bloods will be negative", referring to some tests I had done 3 years ago for anaemia. He said that if the bloods come back fine, there's nothing he can really do for me, other than a few drugs to relax the body and improve my mind. (probably anti-depressants and beta-blockers) He also said that I'm stressed out which is causing the bloating. Clearly he didn't listen to me when I said I work 2 days a week and the rest of my time is spend either in the woods, gardening or just moving around doing chores - hardly stressful. I know there are many types of stress, but honestly, I just think he trying to put me in a box so he can give my psychological advice, which he did. Things like going to a counselling group, therapy in order to boost my confidence (which isn't the problem here.). I said that those things don't interest me at all and I wouldn't feel any better talking to a bunch of mildly depressed people in a circle. (or something of that effect) When I mentioned ED, he asked if I have a girlfriend (I don't) and he said as a young man, I should be " having the the sexuals". (He's indian and putting it like that made me laugh inside)

                            So that's it. Some good, some not so good. The blood test is booked for tomorrow and I need to make another appointment to see the doc in 10 days. (I need to remember to ask for a copy of the results. Something tells me this won't sit well with the idea that I'm anxious.)

                            In other news, look at the size of this spaghetti squash, it's the size of a mango - 10 days ago it was barley the size of a kiwi!

                            EDIT: I wasn't told to fast but I will naturally fast for 15 hours anyway (appointment is 11.35). Do you think this will be ok?

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                            • I'm a little late but...

                              ...welcome to your DIRTY THIRTIES, ZACH! Hehehe.
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                              Do not allow yourself to become wrapped up in a food 'lifestyle'. That is ego, and you are not that.

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                              • It's good that he's giving you the tests.

                                Originally posted by Nstocks View Post
                                When I mentioned ED, he asked if I have a girlfriend (I don't) and he said as a young man, I should be " having the the sexuals". (He's indian and putting it like that made me laugh inside)
                                Reading that made me laugh out loud. "Having the sexuals"? Is it just him, or is that an actual phrase in Britain?


                                Originally posted by Nstocks View Post
                                In other news, look at the size of this spaghetti squash, it's the size of a mango - 10 days ago it was barley the size of a kiwi!

                                EDIT: I wasn't told to fast but I will naturally fast for 15 hours anyway (appointment is 11.35). Do you think this will be ok?
                                That's a nice squash! Yes, 15 hours is long enough. Usually, you want to fast for at least 12 hours.

                                Are you looking for a job in your chosen field (architecture/design?) at all? Sometimes people are stressed out when they have a job that they don't want/like.

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