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  • PaleoMom's Diet Recovery

    I don't plan on posting a ton, but wanted a more appropriate place to put updates about how this is going for me. I'll edit this post later and put more details about what I'm doing and trying to accomplish.

    I'm 5 weeks in today. I weighed in at 146.4 ( a new high) and my waist at 78cm (also a new high). I had been excited about my temp being .5 higher than what it was last month but today forgot that halfway through last month I had switched from the digital thermometer (reads lower) to the glass one. That makes me .2 higher than last month if I'm lucky.

    My appetite had dropped off a cliff when I started my period and still hasn't really come back. I'm wondering if I'm not eating enough now to get my metabolism up further. My morning temp was 97.9-98.2 for the cold half of my cycle and now I'm just past ovulation and it is back up to 98.5. Not bad but about the same as last month. I was hoping to get the cold half up to 98.6 and the warmer half closer to 99.

    I've been having tons of heart palpitations that I didn't have before. I thought it was caused by some sprouted potatoes I had been eating but those have been out of my diet for over a week now and I still have them. I had an odd 2 day break from fatigue and the palpitations after cutting out the potatoes and thought that was the reason, but now it doesn't seem like that was enough to get rid of it.

    My energy is so very low. I cleaned up the kitchen and vacuumed on those days that I felt better but nothing since then. I just want to lay down all day. After 5 weeks of this it is rather concerning. I feel like I should be starting to feel better now or at least see some improvement in energy. It is time to start my garden for the year now. If I miss out now I may be skipping the whole season and growing my own food is rather important to me. I can't imagine doing any physical labor right now though and I need to do much more that just plant a few seeds in the ground.

    On the good side, my sleep is great and I get tons of it. My cellulite is improved even though I'm bigger and with higher bodyfat%. My skin looks nice. I have no food cravings of any kind. I'm really feeling peaceful about food. I think I might eat more if I wasn't too tired to cook though. I'm rather bored with the yogurt, fruit and yams I've been living on out of laziness. Hardly any meat and I don't think it sounds good either.
    PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

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    I think what is happening is your body is attempting to return to its normal state of equilibrium, at a lower weight. This has been stressful for you. Take it easy and listen to your body.

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    • #3
      What exactly are you eating? How many calories are you averaging? Keeping track like YB is doing might be a great idea. Are you getting the palps all day or just certain times? How much fluids and salt are you consuming?

      Your fatigue is concerning since you are getting so much sleep.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
        I think what is happening is your body is attempting to return to its normal state of equilibrium, at a lower weight. This has been stressful for you. Take it easy and listen to your body.
        This is my highest weight ever actually and I've never been underweight but I have been very undernourished.
        PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Zach View Post
          What exactly are you eating? How many calories are you averaging? Keeping track like YB is doing might be a great idea. Are you getting the palps all day or just certain times? How much fluids and salt are you consuming?

          Your fatigue is concerning since you are getting so much sleep.
          Part of this was I stopped tracking to get my attention away from food but with such problems I probably should log in at least a few days a week. I put in today's info and post it tomorrow.

          I'm getting the palps all day but especially after eating. Doesn't matter if I'm standing, sitting, laying down. Happens after everything from a piece of fruit to an omelette.

          Fluids are greatly cut pack per Matt Stone's rec. I drink some milk and get fluid from fruits but haven't been thirsty beyond that. I salt to taste, lately that is mostly on my eggs and yams and from cheese.
          PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

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          • #6
            Hmm, this journal already has me thinking more clearly about what things have changed. The fatigue has been overwhelming enough that I haven't noticed all the changes. I've been too tired to make fermented veggies, which I used to eat before each meal. I've slowly stopped taking the HCl and digestive enzymes. I've stopped drinking water/tea. I'm practically vegetarian out of laziness which also brings me to increased dairy consumption. Also out of laziness is a complete lack of veggie consumption except for starchy ones. None of this is typical for me but without a cook it has become my default. I suppose this is quite a bit of stuff that I should really try and get back to how it had been. I had been eating well when the fatigue started but perhaps it wouldn't have stayed around if my diet hadn't changed.
            PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

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            • #7
              First things first i would start drinking some water, add a pinch of salt to it to avoid the dilution. I used to get palps as well and i believe it was brought on by dehydration. I dont really follow Matt Stone in this respect.

              Also could be a lack of magnesium or potassium.

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              • #8
                Thanks, I will do this all day today and see what happens. I've already had a few glass today and so far have more energy than in quite some time.
                PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
                http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

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                • #9
                  Hey Paleomom, good on you for starting the journal! For what it's worth, I've been incredibly thirsty and have been drinking a lot (I didn't listen to Matt on that). There was one day I had two litres of coconut water! Sometimes water doesn't quench the the thirst so I try to get a lot of my fluids from fruit. I don't really know why, but my body is craving a lot of fluids, and I've been giving my body whatever it needs.

                  I agree with Zach about the food log. As you know, I'm logging what I eat, but it's not with a calorie counting mentality. In fact, the calories are off a lot of the time, as I don't measure anything, and I forget things that I ate. I don't even look at the macros! BUT, I think in a few weeks, once the emotional and physical side has become less intense, that log is going to be a really useful resource for me to track my sleep, digestion, and how I was feeling, with how I was eating.

                  Just a thought as well: it does sound like your diet has become very basic... I know you're tired, but maybe you could incorporate some raw veggies in? Im only suggesting raw cos you wouldnt have to cook them Raw bell peppers are amazing - and full of water, which would help rehydrate you. Also raw carrots are meant to be a super elixir.

                  Keep us posted!
                  "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                  In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                  - Ray Peat

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                  • #10
                    Raw ripe fruit as well! I really do think that too much heat/heavy foods without enough cool foods/liquids will slow you down significantly. Matt Stone talks about this, if you go to far in the other direction, you will feel like your fighting against a heavier gravity and something. I experienced this when on the RRARF and very low fluids.

                    Heres my main suggestions for anyone. Drink a few litres of water a day, add a pinch of sea salt to them. Try for a couple hours of digestion time in between meals and before bed. If digestion is weak give betein hcl and pancreatin a try.

                    Those things changed my life significantly and i believe i could eat just about anything as long as i follow these rules.

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                    • #11
                      Yesterday went so much better! Thank you all for the advice. I hadn't been ignoring my thirst before but had tried to drink less for just the pleasure of it (warm tea) which seams to have led to practically no drinking at all. Yesterday I drank probably a few liters worth of water, tea and juice. I found the more I drank the thirstier I became. I added salt and trace mineral drops and took a bit extra magnesium too.

                      I had enough energy to do a 2 hour egg hunt with my girls and no get tired. Probably walked a few miles in that time (we're on 5 acres). I wasn't super energetic but never hit a wall either. I'm going to see where this goes a few day before tracking foods again. That was a real problem for me and I'm finding myself in this wonderful place mentally thanks to not tracking. I'll go back to it if things don't continue to improve.

                      Thanks to feeling better I also started a fresh batch of kombucha, fermented carrots and made coconut bark (my favorite CO delivery system). I might even do some beef jerky today.

                      Amazing what a little water can do! I never drank a ton in the first place so I suppose I wasn't really the type of person to benefit from cutting it back more.
                      PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

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                      • #12
                        Yea just like anything, his advice can be taken too far. I think he directed that book on the average clean eating dietsr who carries a nalgene bottle everywhere they go and wonders why the constantly feel cold and have energy crashes.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PaleoMom View Post
                          Yesterday went so much better! Thank you all for the advice. I hadn't been ignoring my thirst before but had tried to drink less for just the pleasure of it (warm tea) which seams to have led to practically no drinking at all. Yesterday I drank probably a few liters worth of water, tea and juice. I found the more I drank the thirstier I became. I added salt and trace mineral drops and took a bit extra magnesium too.

                          I had enough energy to do a 2 hour egg hunt with my girls and no get tired. Probably walked a few miles in that time (we're on 5 acres). I wasn't super energetic but never hit a wall either. I'm going to see where this goes a few day before tracking foods again. That was a real problem for me and I'm finding myself in this wonderful place mentally thanks to not tracking. I'll go back to it if things don't continue to improve.

                          Thanks to feeling better I also started a fresh batch of kombucha, fermented carrots and made coconut bark (my favorite CO delivery system). I might even do some beef jerky today.

                          Amazing what a little water can do! I never drank a ton in the first place so I suppose I wasn't really the type of person to benefit from cutting it back more.
                          That's so great you're feeling better!!! I definitely noticed my thirst increasing when I upped my cals - it makes sense I suppose. Do you like coconut water? I think it's the most amazing, rehydrating substance there is! Plus I love the taste. I'm suffering a bit in Ireland cos' you can't get it here and I'm reduced to drinking water which just doesn't have teh same effect. I'm going to take Zach's tip and start adding salt, and maybe lemon too.
                          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                          - Ray Peat

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                          • #14
                            I'll have to try the coconut water. I've seen it but over here it comes in horrible packaging so I thought I'd rather not know if I liked it or I might be tempted all the time! We have horrid recycling in my town so I have to be more careful what I buy. Perhaps there is some in glass now, it has been awhile since I've looked at it. We have coconut water kefir at the health store that I LOVE like crazy. KeVita is the brand. I would love to make gallons of that at home!
                            PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
                            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

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                            • #15
                              You could just buy coconuts and drink it from the source.

                              Baby coconuts, the ones in the white fiber are completely full of water, prob 8-16oz in each one. The older coconuts (brown circles) have like 3-8oz in them.

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