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  • Is it possible that you just have some kind of food intolerance that you're not aware of? I know Derp and Zach don't believe in food intolerances, but...

    I think getting your gut bacteria tested is a good idea.

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    • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
      Gut issues

      Derp gave J3nn some suggestions for her gut health: activated charcoal, cascara sagrada, and periactin. The charcoal sounds like something I could try, but the cascara sagrada is a laxative (not good when you already have the runs ). The periactin appealed to me cos' Derp said it's anti-estrogenic too, but it's a hay fever sup and seems to have a lot of side effects?

      Derp, if you're reading please help me!
      Same side effects with all antihistamines. Periactin(cyproheptadine) is low risk, especially in small doses. It would be worthwhile to take a choline supplement with it though.
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      • Monitor symptoms closely if you decide to take activation charcoal. If you are already experiencing problems with constipation it will only back you up further.
        Is it weird in here, or is it just me?

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        • Originally posted by ombat View Post
          OJ gets to me too. Is it fresh squeezed (by you) or store bought? Someone on a Peat forum commented that their stomach handled fresh squeezed but not store bought and I have noticed the same.

          Anyway, I think you should get lab work to see whats going on in your gut. That's what I'm trying to do....
          You know, I actually read on the RP forum that Mr. P said that any kind of OJ is fine, hence I was just buying cheap stuff I couldn't be bothered juicing for one person...

          Originally posted by diene View Post
          Is it possible that you just have some kind of food intolerance that you're not aware of? I know Derp and Zach don't believe in food intolerances, but...

          I think getting your gut bacteria tested is a good idea.
          That's kind of the approach I've taken thus far, but now I'm thinking that I can't keep cutting out all these foods. I'm basically only eating dairy, fruit and meat now - what else is there?! And it's not even just those food groups, because I don't eat pig or fowl, I stopped eating persimmons cos they bloat me, now OJ, now milk...

          Better to find out wtf is wrong with my gut.

          Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
          Same side effects with all antihistamines. Periactin(cyproheptadine) is low risk, especially in small doses. It would be worthwhile to take a choline supplement with it though.
          Okay - thanks! I'll see if I can buy it...

          Originally posted by ombat View Post
          Monitor symptoms closely if you decide to take activation charcoal. If you are already experiencing problems with constipation it will only back you up further.
          This made me LOL. You sound like a constipation manual
          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

          - Ray Peat

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          • + 1 on getting your gut bacteria tested. As I might have mentioned (7 thousand times) before

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            • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
              You know, I actually read on the RP forum that Mr. P said that any kind of OJ is fine, hence I was just buying cheap stuff I couldn't be bothered juicing for one person...
              Well if Peat says it's fine then obviously there's something wrong with YOU I would still experiment and use your own n=1 to decide what's right.

              This made me LOL. You sound like a constipation manual
              Activated Charcoal isn't for everyone. Consult your doctor if you have a history of constipation or if you experience any side effects such as headache, nausea, seizures, limb loss, or spontaneous lobotomy- wait, sorry, I was reading from the wrong list. Hold on while I find my notes...

              P.S. I've gotten a little ways into Waking the Tiger and I am really enthralled. Just wanted you to know that Let you know what I think when I'm done
              Last edited by ombat; 07-28-2013, 11:23 AM.
              Is it weird in here, or is it just me?

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              • i use activated charcoal to whiten my teeth and add a little dark to my mascara (which is honey, cacoa powder, and activated charcoal). it works nicely for such things.

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                • I tried activated charcoal... It's supposed to be good if you have an upset stomach. I don't remember if it helped or not.

                  I've tried slippery elm bark before. It helps to lubricate the digestive tract. It worked good but I need mag citrate no matter what. That's what I use now. I usually take up to 800 mg at night.

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                  • Originally posted by ombat View Post
                    P.S. I've gotten a little ways into Waking the Tiger and I am really enthralled. Just wanted you to know that Let you know what I think when I'm done
                    Really glad you're enjoying it!

                    Originally posted by CiKi90
                    To you and Batty, I don't recall seeing you post anything about aloe? I know, YB, you said you were drinking the juice. Did that not help anything? I'm still taking my Aloe capsules, but I used to have to take 3 of them every night. Now I only have to take 2. ... But I still have to take, like, 960mg of Magnesium Citrate. Even still, this is sooo much better than the bullshit I used to take with no results or just worsening of my problems.
                    I've used it a few times - I think it helps the formation of the stool... maybe? I haven't taken it consistently enough to really notice...

                    Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                    i use activated charcoal to whiten my teeth and add a little dark to my mascara (which is honey, cacoa powder, and activated charcoal). it works nicely for such things.
                    Never heard of it for teeth whitening! Interesting. I use coconut oil

                    Originally posted by brooke.S. View Post
                    I tried activated charcoal... It's supposed to be good if you have an upset stomach. I don't remember if it helped or not.

                    I've tried slippery elm bark before. It helps to lubricate the digestive tract. It worked good but I need mag citrate no matter what. That's what I use now. I usually take up to 800 mg at night.
                    Mag is one of those things that never worked for me... I guess it means by issues are not caused by a deficiency.


                    And, in case anyone was wondering what my new avatar was...



                    I'm weird, I know
                    Last edited by YogaBare; 07-29-2013, 03:08 PM.
                    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                    - Ray Peat

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                    • Knowing me, knowing you... AH-HAAAAAAAAA

                      Remember those internet questionnaires that friends used to email each other in the 90's?! Cheesey as they were, I used to love them, and it was cool to learn new things about people. I chose ones that weren't too deep, otherwise we'd be here all day (well, I would ) You know the drill...

                      What subject do you wish you had paid more attention to in school?

                      What is your idea of heaven?

                      What music do you and you father/mother have in common?

                      In what way are you superstitious?

                      What musical interments do you wish you could play?

                      What is your favorite book?

                      What is the worst flavor of ice cream?

                      What is the furthest north you have traveled?

                      Where were you in life 10 years ago?

                      What is the best costume you have worn?

                      Did you ever want to change your name? If is to what?

                      What was the first concert you went to see?

                      What book have you attempted to read several times but have never been able to finish?

                      If you could have a drink with someone from history who would it be?

                      What is the worst physical pain you have ever been in?

                      What color underwear are you wearing?

                      What do you do to impress someone you are attracted to?

                      What do you miss from your childhood?

                      What is the saddest movie?

                      What is the longest you have been without sleeping?

                      What word do you love the sound of?

                      What is the best adaptation of a book to a movie?

                      What movie can you watch over and over again?

                      What do you have an irrational fear of?

                      If you had to move what city would you like to live in?


                      Obviously just answer as many as you want!
                      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                      - Ray Peat

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                      • Hey, where are your answers??? Hmm, should I answer in your journal or mine?
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                        • What subject do you wish you had paid more attention to in school?
                          None, it's all taught through textbooks from one side that can either lie, ignore important details, or don't teach nearly enough. If anything, I wish I paid even less attention in school. I paid quite a lot of attention to the few subjects that cannot lie(math, mostly)

                          What is your idea of heaven?
                          Space

                          What music do you and you father/mother have in common?
                          N/A
                          In what way are you superstitious?
                          Certain things I do in order to set the tone for the day's course
                          What musical interments do you wish you could play?
                          Piano
                          What is your favorite book?
                          Nadja
                          What is the worst flavor of ice cream?
                          Mint, or most things by Ben & Jerry's
                          What is the furthest north you have traveled?
                          NorCal(sad, I know)
                          Where were you in life 10 years ago?
                          Location? OC.
                          What is the best costume you have worn?
                          my clothes
                          Did you ever want to change your name? If is to what?
                          N/A
                          What was the first concert you went to see?
                          Tool
                          What book have you attempted to read several times but have never been able to finish?
                          Primal Blueprint
                          If you could have a drink with someone from history who would it be?
                          Hitler
                          What is the worst physical pain you have ever been in?
                          Being stabbed
                          What color underwear are you wearing?
                          Black
                          What do you do to impress someone you are attracted to?
                          Be myself, it works every time
                          What do you miss from your childhood?
                          My friend
                          What is the saddest movie?
                          The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
                          What is the longest you have been without sleeping?
                          5 days
                          What word do you love the sound of?
                          Poof
                          What is the best adaptation of a book to a movie?
                          IDK
                          What movie can you watch over and over again?
                          Before trilogy
                          What do you have an irrational fear of?
                          Aging
                          If you had to move what city would you like to live in?
                          No city
                          Last edited by Derpamix; 07-30-2013, 06:11 AM.
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                          • What subject do you wish you had paid more attention to in school?
                            I don't think there were any that I regret not paying enough attention to. I was a pretty good student until I got really depressed.
                            What is your idea of heaven?
                            I don't really have any beliefs as to "places you go", but I like to think it's just peace.
                            What music do you and you father/mother have in common?
                            The Beatles.
                            In what way are you superstitious?
                            Probably no ways. I can't think of anything.
                            What musical interments do you wish you could play?
                            The piano. I played from '97-'01 and I enjoyed it, but disliked practicing. I miss it now and keep wanting to get a keyboard & re-teach myself. I can't read music very well anymore.
                            What is your favorite book?
                            The first thing that comes to mind is Sabriel, by Garth Nix.
                            What is the worst flavor of ice cream?
                            Coffee is the first one that comes to mind (don't kill me).
                            What is the furthest north you have traveled?
                            Somewhere in Maine, unless Seattle is farther north.
                            Where were you in life 10 years ago?
                            I was between freshman and sophomore years in high school. This time of year, I was probably living at my friend's house and in the pool, or on my family's annual vacation to the beach. My depression was just starting to get really bad!
                            What is the best costume you have worn?
                            I used to have pretty sweet home-made costumes, but I think my favorite was Livewire originally from Superman: The Animated Series.
                            Did you ever want to change your name? If is to what?
                            See my username? In my mid-teens, I started feeling like neither of my names (legal & nickname) suited me. I started using nameless- as a format for usernames. It stuck, but I feel pretty concrete in my names now. I purposely started using my legal name at my jobs post-college since nobody ever called me that because I wanted to actually associate with the name.
                            What was the first concert you went to see?
                            I went to some with my family when I was younger (including Rockapella), but My Chemical Romance was my first w/o parents.
                            What book have you attempted to read several times but have never been able to finish?
                            Can't think of one, I like to finish books.
                            If you could have a drink with someone from history who would it be?
                            My grandfather. I don't really care that much about dead celebrities.
                            What is the worst physical pain you have ever been in?
                            That's hard to say because I've never been seriously injured. I've never even broken any bones.
                            What color underwear are you wearing?
                            White with some flowery things. They're very girly ><
                            What do you do to impress someone you are attracted to?
                            Movie trivia?
                            What do you miss from your childhood?
                            Being oblivious to bad things. Wow, that's pessimistic. I miss sleeping in my 101 Dalmatians bedsheets and the feeling of waking up on a cold morning and knowing there's no school. It's not the same now. There's always work.
                            What is the saddest movie?
                            Hmmm, The Green Mile made me cry.
                            What is the longest you have been without sleeping?
                            No longer than 24 hrs. I don't function well without sleep and caffeine doesn't sit well with me.
                            What word do you love the sound of?
                            Nothing comes to mind =\
                            What is the best adaptation of a book to a movie?
                            Shit, this is a good question and we see a lot of movies so I really should be able to answer this. I'm blanking. I fucking love the LotR trilogy. I know it's not super faithful to the books (have read them, but not for a long time), but they're just fucking good.
                            What movie can you watch over and over again?
                            I have seen Hellboy a lot. I watched the LotR trilogy over and over in high school, along with Pirates of the Caribbean, but I can't watch those too frequently anymore.
                            What do you have an irrational fear of?
                            The only thing I feel like I'm really afraid of is being physically assaulted, but I don't think that's irrational.
                            If you had to move what city would you like to live in?
                            Seattle. The rain might kill me, but I've always wanted to live there. Hulky was stationed in Washington for a year and loves the area. My parents met there while working after college.
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                            • What subject do you wish you had paid more attention to in school?
                              Math.

                              What is your idea of heaven?
                              I don't really have one.

                              What music do you and you father/mother have in common?
                              None. (immigrant parents.)

                              In what way are you superstitious?
                              I think I might believe in ghosts.

                              What musical interments do you wish you could play?
                              Harp

                              What is your favorite book?
                              A Song of Ice and Fire--I love the entire series although books 1-3 are better than 4-5. And when is book six going to come out?!

                              What is the worst flavor of ice cream?
                              I agree with Derp here--mint is gross, and Ben & Jerry's usually too sweet.


                              What is the furthest north you have traveled?
                              Either Boise, Montana or Seattle, Washington. Not sure which one is further north.

                              Where were you in life 10 years ago?
                              College (Berkeley).

                              What is the best costume you have worn?
                              Halloween of 2002, I dressed up as a vampire. Even had the plastic fangs glued to my teeth. They hurt, but it was a good look.

                              Did you ever want to change your name? If is to what?
                              Yes, and I did. My mom named me Michelle. I subsequently changed my name, and you know what I changed it to. I kept Michelle as my middle name though, and sometimes I still go by it, just to confuse others and myself.

                              What was the first concert you went to see?
                              Not sure. Possibly Phish.

                              What book have you attempted to read several times but have never been able to finish?
                              If on a winter's night a traveler

                              If you could have a drink with someone from history who would it be?
                              Oh, this is hard. Can't decide. Richard Feynman--but only if I also get to have sex with him (and, obviously, it would have to be Feynman when he was in his thirties or early forties, not when he's an old man ). If it's strictly drinks, I'll have to think more about it. Woodrow Wilson--but only if I get to shoot him.

                              What is the worst physical pain you have ever been in?
                              When I had severe abdominal pain caused by following instructions given to me by a doctor (never trust doctors). It wasn't the most pain I've ever been in, but it was the worst because it lasted 12+ hours at one point.

                              What color underwear are you wearing?
                              Oh, this is embarrassing. You couldn't have asked this on a day when I was wearing more normal underwear. Well, it's white with red ladybugs on it.

                              What do you do to impress someone you are attracted to?
                              Depends on the person.

                              What do you miss from your childhood?
                              Being young/having my whole life in front of me.

                              What is the saddest movie?
                              Conversations with Other Women. Not sure if it's really the saddest, but I remember crying a lot during it. I don't really pay much attention to movies.

                              What is the longest you have been without sleeping?
                              More than 2 days but less than 3.

                              What word do you love the sound of?
                              phenethylamine

                              What is the best adaptation of a book to a movie?
                              Not sure, but I guess Lord of the Rings was okay.

                              What movie can you watch over and over again?
                              Star Wars.

                              What do you have an irrational fear of?
                              Spiders. Bugs in general but especially spiders.

                              If you had to move what city would you like to live in?
                              Berkeley.
                              Last edited by diene; 07-30-2013, 08:42 AM.

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                              • We used to do something similar at school, where everyone would pick a picture on a scrapbook type of thing and write down the answers.
                                I'm old enough to have clear memories of the prehistoric days of no internet.

                                What subject do you wish you had paid more attention to in school?
                                None, really. I wish I had studied less in those days and had more fun instead. I'm yet to find any practical use to anything I had learned in school.

                                What is your idea of heaven?
                                On Earth - living in total bliss with not a thing to worry about

                                What music do you and you father/mother have in common?
                                None

                                In what way are you superstitious?
                                I cross my heart sometimes, although I'm not religious.

                                What musical interments do you wish you could play?
                                Harp? I find the sound very relaxing.

                                What is your favorite book?
                                I have too many. I enjoyed "The Long Rain" by Peter Gradol a lot The Long Rain: Peter Gadol: Amazon.com: Books

                                What is the worst flavor of ice cream?
                                As much as I like chocolate, the ice cream tastes yuck to me. Vanilla all the way


                                What is the furthest north you have traveled?
                                Germany

                                Where were you in life 10 years ago?
                                Physically as in location in pretty much the same place. Mentally, I feel in a worse place

                                What is the best costume you have worn?
                                My (now diseased) favorite aunt's clothes and high heels, when I was like 5. Imagine the self applied make up too.

                                Did you ever want to change your name? If is to what?
                                Yes. Something more English sounding.

                                What was the first concert you went to see?
                                Don't remember, but it was too loud and I was too far away from the stage.

                                What book have you attempted to read several times but have never been able to finish?
                                "Les MisÚrables"

                                If you could have a drink with someone from history who would it be?
                                Lenin. But let me slip some cyanide into his drink first.

                                What is the worst physical pain you have ever been in?
                                Never really was I in too severe of a pain.

                                What color underwear are you wearing?
                                Right now - none. I have my spandex jeggings on, as I'm about to do my exercise (but I'm goofing on the internet, instead )

                                What do you do to impress someone you are attracted to?
                                I wanted to say - being myself. But I guess nothing too impressionable about that . Ha!

                                What do you miss from your childhood?
                                My innocence and naivete.

                                What is the saddest movie?
                                "Born on the 4th of July".

                                What is the longest you have been without sleeping?
                                About 24 hrs.

                                What word do you love the sound of?
                                Eeeeeew.

                                What is the best adaptation of a book to a movie?
                                I've been disappointed by most so far. I imagine things so much differently than movie directors, I guess.

                                What movie can you watch over and over again?
                                N/A

                                What do you have an irrational fear of?
                                Death

                                If you had to move what city would you like to live in?
                                No city, really.

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