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  • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
    You did! But actually eating close to bed time is better for me. I rarely do it though, too hungry earlier on...

    And lol - I posted on your journal at exactly the same moment you posted here!
    Then never mind! I have the same problem when speaking to people to. There's a lot of, "you've told me this already..."

    Is this the internet version of synchronized menstrual cycles?
    Is it weird in here, or is it just me?

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    • FTF
      Entry Four:


      Sleep:
      11.30pm - 6.30am: 7 hours. Realising that even getting more sleep, I still don't feel refreshed. Actually I woke up today with huge bags under my eyes - even my mum commented on them.

      Temperature:
      Feet are burning right now.

      Energy and mood:
      Energy wasn't bad today, got things done. Still neurotic about my skin

      Food / Hunger / Cravings:
      Again, consciously tried to eat less today and not snack. I wasn't massively hungry and I ate well, but it's nighttime now and I'm starving. I seem to burn off food really quickly, but not lose fat. If I go to bed hungry I just wake in the night. Weird that some people sleep better when they fast, but I can eat 2K cals a day and wake up hungry.

      7am - Breakfast: Leftover Goan fish curry, rice (moderate portion).
      1.30pm - Lunch: Bone broth, cooked carrots, some beef.
      3pm: Raspberries
      7pm - Dinner: Roast potatoes, ratatouille, 3 x slices striploin beef
      8pm - Snack raspberries.
      One raspberry tea, one cuppa with honey, two big coffees.

      Cravings: Meat (during the day), Slight sugar craving in the evening.

      Supps:
      Mg x 1
      Milk thistle 20 drps x1

      Body:
      Still very bloated, including my face now. I wonder if it's the milk thistle? Apparently it can cause bloating.
      Hair - Okay.
      Skin - on hands is better since I started using really thick balm on them. Skin under eyes is a disaster Using the balm a little under there.
      Lips - Chapped. Better with the balm.
      Keratosis pilaris: Smooth.
      Eyes - puffy.
      Digestion - Good.

      Fitness:
      50 min walk with the dog.

      Stress:
      Nope.

      Final thoughts:
      I use food for energy, but I don't seem to be able to access the energy it gives me. Maybe I should try using exercise for my expresso? I used to do that back when I was in good shape - would do 15 burpees if I felt a bit tired. It worked really well, but then I ended up having one of the worst bouts of ED I've ever had. I seem to go insane every time I try to push myself.

      On a separate note, I read an interesting article about Orthorexia that Neckhammer posted. One sentence in it stuck out: that the danger in using food for healing is that you can end up becoming obsessive about it. It's true, and perhaps a better approach for me would be to start looking at food in a different way? I know this sounds odd, but I think I rely on it too much psychologically as a substance that's going to make me feel better. It's not a miracle worker - there's only so much food (like sleep) can do. There's clearly some other piece to the puzzle missing for me...
      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

      - Ray Peat

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      • Aren't you just about out of that fish curry yet?

        Have you noticed that coffee bloats you? I've read here and elsewhere that some people had relief from giving it up.

        The reason food is so tough is because, unlike other substances, you can't just give it up. How do you propose to look at food now?
        Is it weird in here, or is it just me?

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        • Then never mind! I have the same problem when speaking to people to. There's a lot of, "you've told me this already..."
          Aspie trait. I can't remember to whom I've said what, either!
          Crohn's, doing SCD

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          • Originally posted by ombat View Post
            Aren't you just about out of that fish curry yet?
            Ha - yes That was the final portion. I went nearly two weeks without eating fish due to fear of PUFA. I had to make up for lost time
            Have you noticed that coffee bloats you? I've read here and elsewhere that some people had relief from giving it up.
            Not at all actually. I gave up coffee twice in my life - for a year each time. Still bloated! I know that dairy is a definite culprit for me, but then so is everything...

            The reason food is so tough is because, unlike other substances, you can't just give it up. How do you propose to look at food now?
            I've either looked at food as an enemy or a god. Somewhere in between? Something necessary, but also something to enjoy? Easier said than done...

            Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
            Aspie trait. I can't remember to whom I've said what, either!
            It's also a symptom of food intolerances, thyroid conditions, being stressed, vitamin b12 deficiencies...
            Last edited by YogaBare; 09-26-2013, 10:58 AM.
            "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

            In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

            - Ray Peat

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            • I wonder how people can claim to sleep better while fasting, with compounded stress from low blood sugar and night time. If I even lie down while in a "fasted" state, my body is like "nope, feed me motherfucker" and I just thrash around; or, if I'm able to doze off I wake up within 30 minutes and then I just eat a pint of ice cream and fall asleep like a baby.
              Make America Great Again

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              • My song:

                Make America Great Again

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                • Ha, I'm not a big fan of metal, but that was quite cool!

                  Sugar themed songs I like:

                  This


                  And this (I shared with you before)


                  Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                  I wonder how people can claim to sleep better while fasting, with compounded stress from low blood sugar and night time. If I even lie down while in a "fasted" state, my body is like "nope, feed me motherfucker" and I just thrash around; or, if I'm able to doze off I wake up within 30 minutes and then I just eat a pint of ice cream and fall asleep like a baby.
                  I have a really skinny friend who doesn't eat much (often goes to bed without dinner) and she says she sleeps pretty well...

                  I wonder if it's metabolism?
                  Last edited by YogaBare; 09-26-2013, 10:59 AM.
                  "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                  In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                  - Ray Peat

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                  • Probably not, I bet hers sucks, she probably just can't help but sleep from being fatigued due to lack of calories

                    Lemme roll your tunes right now
                    Make America Great Again

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                    • Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                      Lemme roll your tunes right now
                      Ha - you're definitely not going to like the first one! It's about as 60's as you get.
                      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                      - Ray Peat

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                      • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                        Ha - you're definitely not going to like the first one! It's about as 60's as you get.
                        Yup, very cool. Sugar is a very beautiful thing. ♥
                        Make America Great Again

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                        • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post

                          Final thoughts:
                          I use food for energy, but I don't seem to be able to access the energy it gives me.

                          It's true, and perhaps a better approach for me would be to start looking at food in a different way? I know this sounds odd, but I think I rely on it too much psychologically as a substance that's going to make me feel better. It's not a miracle worker - there's only so much food (like sleep) can do. There's clearly some other piece to the puzzle missing for me...
                          This is me, too. I'm always thinking that if I eat the perfect thing it will make me feel all better. I have yet to find it though. I really eat a lot more when I'm tired though and find my appetite disappears when I'm full of energy, or is at least delayed.
                          PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

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                          • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                            I've either looked at food as an enemy or a god. Somewhere in between? Something necessary, but also something to enjoy? Easier said than done...
                            I feel like I'm finally getting to this place, or am in it at least temporarily. If I knew how I got there, I'd tell you.

                            On another note, I find myself mildly obsessed with SOAD at times. Saw them perform live once, and while I'm compelled to openly make fun of and convey a distaste for them at all times, I hide a secret... Mrr. YB, I actually liked that second song.
                            Is it weird in here, or is it just me?

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                            • Originally posted by ombat View Post
                              I feel like I'm finally getting to this place, or am in it at least temporarily. If I knew how I got there, I'd tell you.

                              On another note, I find myself mildly obsessed with SOAD at times. Saw them perform live once, and while I'm compelled to openly make fun of and convey a distaste for them at all times, I hide a secret... Mrr. YB, I actually liked that second song.
                              Please do share the secret The first part of it is always recognising polarity anyway, so at least I've made one step!

                              And whaddya mean " actually liked that second song"?! It's an awesome tune! Loooove the video.

                              FTF
                              Entry Five: Rise


                              Sleep:
                              12.00am - 7am: 7 hours. Not the most restful sleep, but woke up feeling pretty good.

                              Temperature:
                              In transit today so didn't keep as warm.

                              Energy and mood:
                              Today, I distinctly felt my energy starting to rise. I started off fine in the morning, and then by mid-morning I was starting to buzz. When I went for my walk I literally felt my heart opening, and all these feelings of love and bliss flooded my senses, and I was filled with gratitude. The energy just kept getting higher all day, and now I'm sitting back at home feeling strong.

                              Hormones eh?!

                              Seriously, the more I look into all this, the more I'm sure we're all ruled by these subtle energies that we don't understand.

                              Food / Hunger / Cravings:
                              Again, was conscious of portion sizes, and tried not to eat between meals. Didn't eat dinner til really late, but didn't panic from the hunger - instead got that nice clarity that sometimes comes with fasting. Fat burning?

                              7am - Breakfast: Strawberries, banana, drizzle of honey, coffee.
                              11am - 2 x hot waters with lemon and a pinch of sugar.
                              1.30pm - Lunch: Bone broth, cooked carrots, veal with gravy (4 slices).
                              5pm - Coffee.
                              9pm - Dinner: Roast potatoes, ratatouille, veal.
                              8pm - Snack raspberries.

                              Cravings: None.

                              Supps:
                              Milk thistle 20 drps x1

                              Body:
                              Bloat - gone down
                              Skin - Better, but prob cos' I've been using very thick balm.
                              Rosacea: Was really red today. And hot. IS there a connection between my energy and my flushing? Is it hormonal?
                              Lips - Solidifying.
                              Keratosis pilaris: Smooth.
                              Digestion - Good.

                              Fitness:
                              50 min walk with the dog (fast), 20 mins yoga. Out of nowhere, I've made huge gains with my flexibility - I can nearly do the straddle splits! I wonder if the aching I was feeling in my muscles over the last two weeks was deep healing and reduction of inflammation? I've also made strength gains, but not as dramatic as the mobility gains.

                              Stress:
                              Normally when my energy starts to rise, I immediately throw myself into work. I go into "fight" mode. I want to try something different this time, but I'm not sure what it is...

                              Final thoughts:
                              Aiming for balance.

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                              Last edited by YogaBare; 09-26-2013, 11:02 AM.
                              "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                              In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                              - Ray Peat

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                              • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                                I've either looked at food as an enemy or a god. Somewhere in between? Something necessary, but also something to enjoy? Easier said than done...
                                Yes! Because it's not about the food really - is it? Food is not the enemy, nor is it going to fix or save me.

                                I have been vey aware of my potential for orthorexia since starting this woe, but in actual fact it hasn't happened. I've learned gradually that grains do upset my digestion and I'm slowly, very slowly, learning which foods I really do like and which ones I don't like. That might sound daft, but I still don't really know. I might snort a packet of choc chip cookies, but I don't really like them. I do know I like eggs, I like lamb, I like peppers. I'm not sure what else I genuinely like

                                I did start this because I wanted Primal to fix me. It hasn't - sadly, and I can't fix myself either until I accept that I need to surrender my weight and my fear of gaining it and start eating 3 meals a day. I think the biggest danger for my with Primal/Paleo is the endorsement of IFing, legitimate starvation for health reasons. It's a hateful thing and the worst thing about primal for me. I never used to do it at all (actually, I did sometimes) but now I do it most days and it has interfered with my natural hunger responses and actually taught me to override them more easily.

                                If you could take a pill that would give you the exact calories and nutrients you needed for the day and you wouldn't feel hungry till the next day, would you take it? I don't think I would, but sometimes I think it would be easier to get rid of the food.

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